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#26 2016-10-24 07:38:37
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
^ Good point. I've added it to the OP
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#27 2017-04-10 02:52:40
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
I have carefully linked to all the sources and I am still getting the following:
Get:53 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main amd64 Packages [6,776 kB]
Get:54 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib amd64 Packages [50.2 kB]
Get:55 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main i386 Packages [6,779 kB]
Get:56 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib i386 Packages [49.5 kB]
Get:57 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib Translation-en [38.5 kB]
Get:58 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main Translation-en [4,582 kB]
Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages
404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages
404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en
Ign http://repo.mongodb.org jessie/mongodb-org/3.2/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://repo.mongodb.org jessie/mongodb-org/3.2/main Translation-en
Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main amd64 Packages
404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main i386 Packages
404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
Ign http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main Translation-en
Hit http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Packages
Get:59 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages [9,923 B]
Get:60 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages [9,926 B]
Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en
Ign http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Translation-en_US
Ign http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Translation-en
Fetched 18.3 MB in 4min 9s (73.3 kB/s)
W: GPG error: http://qgis.org jessie InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 073D307A618E5811
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: GPG error: http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu jessie-cran3/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: GPG error: http://cran.rstudio.com lenny-cran/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: GPG error: http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1468162041 KEYEXPIRED 1468162041 KEYEXPIRED 1468162041
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: Failed to fetch http://rodeo-deb.yhat.com/dists/rodeo/InRelease Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/Release.gpg Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-amd64/Packages Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-i386/Packages Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-en_US Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-en Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)
W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxgndu/sqlitebrowser/ubuntu/dists/bunsen-hydrogen/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxgndu/sqlitebrowser/ubuntu/dists/bunsen-hydrogen/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
W: Failed to fetch http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
W: Failed to fetch http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.I see that there is mention of public keys not found, etc. Does this basically mean that my system is hosed?
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#28 2017-04-10 05:59:10
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
I have carefully linked to all the sources and I am still getting the following:
Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80] Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80] Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80] Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main i386 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80] Hit http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./I see that there is mention of public keys not found, etc. Does this basically mean that my system is hosed?
yes, but not because of the public keys, you self-confessed ass-clown.
Give to COVAX! Here or here. (explanation)
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#29 2017-04-10 06:49:33
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
^ Great, now I have to clean coffee off my laptop screen...
@ass.clownperchslayer: please post the output of:
apt-cache policyWhich software have you installed from non-Debian repositories?
I can see a (failed) attempt to add some PPAs, have you read https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian … nkenDebian?
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#30 2017-04-10 10:50:12
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
I have carefully linked to all the sources and I am still getting the following:
Get:53 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main amd64 Packages [6,776 kB] Get:54 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib amd64 Packages [50.2 kB] Get:55 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main i386 Packages [6,779 kB] Get:56 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib i386 Packages [49.5 kB] Get:57 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib Translation-en [38.5 kB] Get:58 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main Translation-en [4,582 kB] Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80] Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80] Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en Ign http://repo.mongodb.org jessie/mongodb-org/3.2/main Translation-en_US Ign http://repo.mongodb.org jessie/mongodb-org/3.2/main Translation-en Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80] Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main i386 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80] Ign http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main Translation-en_US Ign http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main Translation-en Hit http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Packages Get:59 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages [9,923 B] Get:60 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages [9,926 B] Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en_US Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en Ign http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Translation-en_US Ign http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Translation-en Fetched 18.3 MB in 4min 9s (73.3 kB/s) W: GPG error: http://qgis.org jessie InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 073D307A618E5811 W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 8B48AD6246925553 W: GPG error: http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu jessie-cran3/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480 W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 8B48AD6246925553 W: GPG error: http://cran.rstudio.com lenny-cran/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480 W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 8B48AD6246925553 W: GPG error: http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1468162041 KEYEXPIRED 1468162041 KEYEXPIRED 1468162041 W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 8B48AD6246925553 W: Failed to fetch http://rodeo-deb.yhat.com/dists/rodeo/InRelease Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/Release.gpg Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-amd64/Packages Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-i386/Packages Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-en_US Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-en Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname) W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxgndu/sqlitebrowser/ubuntu/dists/bunsen-hydrogen/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxgndu/sqlitebrowser/ubuntu/dists/bunsen-hydrogen/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80] W: Failed to fetch http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80] W: Failed to fetch http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80] E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.I see that there is mention of public keys not found, etc. Does this basically mean that my system is hosed?
Carefully linked is different. Make your sources look like the ones damo posted at the very top plus maybe something – the URL for the PPAs for example is just wrong; we do not have PPAs.
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#31 2017-05-22 07:03:35
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
Mainly an Ubuntu user musing. If backports are enabled, shouldn't the newest program version automatically appear in Synaptic? I am a bit confused also by the need to be explicit with apt when backports are enabled. If you enabled backports, can't one assume that it is because the user wants newer software to be available in general? Particularly considering Debian's reputation for keeping programs in testing until they are almost Jurassic?
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#32 2017-05-22 07:52:05
- johnraff
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
If you enabled backports, can't one assume that it is because the user wants newer software to be available in general?
Backports are pinned at 100 by default, which means that users have to specifically request that a particular package be installed from the backports repositories. This is Debian policy. As the Debian Backports site says:
Backports cannot be tested as extensively as Debian stable, and backports are provided on an as-is basis, with risk of incompatibilities with other components in Debian stable. Use with care!
It is therefore recommended to only select single backported packages that fit your needs, and not use all available backports.
If backports got standard 500 pinning then next time you did an 'apt-get upgrade' all your packages would be upgraded to the backports version (if there was one available). This is not likely to be a Good Thing, and defeats the purpose of running Debian Stable.
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#33 2017-05-22 19:51:46
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
What is this "Synaptic" of which you speak? 
Have you tried
apt-cache policy $packageThis will show all available versions (and their APT pin values).
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi … ommandline
If you enabled backports, can't one assume that it is because the user wants newer software to be available in general?
No, not at all.
BunsenLabs is a poor choice for those who always want shiny new sh...tuff because we are based on Debian stable, please see https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian … f_Syndrome
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#34 2017-10-23 05:25:53
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If you want more new software and lose stability, suppose it is better to use another distribution based on testing.
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#35 2017-10-29 17:10:42
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
If you want more new software and lose stability, suppose it is better to use another distribution based on testing.
Or if you are adventurous you can point the Debian repo in the sources list to Testing and upgrade to Testing. At this point my brief testing in a VM indicates it can be done fairly easily.
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#36 2017-10-29 18:25:35
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
Or if you are adventurous you can point the Debian repo in the sources list to Testing and upgrade to Testing. At this point my brief testing in a VM indicates it can be done fairly easily.
Please don't advise that our users break their systems.
@all, please *do not* follow this advice unless you like fixing broken boxen.
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#37 2017-10-30 06:20:18
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At this point my brief testing in a VM indicates it can be done fairly easily.
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#38 2017-10-30 07:28:41
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^ 
One is put in mind of the skydiver who's parachute has broken and as he plummets to his death he just keeps repeating to himself:
So far, so good...
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#39 2019-03-09 02:17:54
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
So /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list takes the place of the base debian repository, rather than just supplementing it? I tried visiting https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/ to learn more but it gives me a 403 access denied.
I just installed bunsenlabs from the latest iso minutes ago. Some of the updates initiated by the bl-welcome script failed, so I opened my sources.list and was surprised to see it only contains:
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.6 _Helium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20181113-17:01]/ stretch contrib main non-free
#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.6 _Helium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20181113-17:01]/ stretch contrib main non-free
## Debian security updates
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib non-freeNo base, only security, and no "volatile" as in the top post. Apart from that my bunsen.list, bunsen-stretch-backports.list, and debian-stretch-backports.list all look correct as in the top post.
Thanks for helping out a newbie.
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#40 2019-03-09 02:30:20
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
The bunsen.list file supplements the sources.list file from Debian.
You should have or need to create or add something similar to this...
In /etc/apt/sources.list, something like...
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main non-free contrib
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org stretch/updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://security.debian.org stretch/updates main contrib non-freeAnd in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list...
deb https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian helium mainOnline
#41 2019-03-09 02:37:12
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Thanks hhh. My bunsen.list matches that exactly. Any idea why my sources.list got borked on a fresh install?
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#42 2019-03-09 02:44:20
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Er... no. But is everything updating and upgrading OK now? Can you sudo apt update, sudo apt upgrade, apt-cache policy foo and then sudo apt install foo?
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#43 2019-03-09 03:47:18
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Yep! Thanks!
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#44 2019-04-04 11:13:52
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deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian experimental main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian sid main
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#45 2019-09-22 06:42:10
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
Hi all,
So I haven't used BL for about... 4-5 months, needed my laptop to be user friendly for the household. Anyway, launched it yesterday, decided to apt update/upgrade and it seems that the repositories are down?
And following is the contents of:
sources.list:
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.6 _Helium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20181113-17:01]/ stretch contrib main non-free
#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 9.6 _Helium_ - Snapshot amd64 LIVE/INSTALL Binary 20181113-17:01]/ stretch contrib main non-free
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main non-free contrib
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main non-free contrib
## Debian security updates
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib non-free
# stretch-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-updates main contrib non-freebunsen.list
deb https://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian helium maindebian-stretch-backports.list
# added by bl-welcome
# Debian backports
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian stretch-backports main contrib non-freebunsen-stretch-backports.list
# added by bl-welcome
# BunsenLabs backports
deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian stretch-backports mainDoes it have to do with anything Debian 10 related? Also, I seem to have an issue with installing software, this makes me want to distrohop!
I don't have patience or skill to dig deep enough every time system breaks itself or when I break something because of lack of patience and skill.
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#46 2019-09-22 07:21:48
- johnraff
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
The error messages you were getting were with Debian and third-party repositories - I wonder if you were having a temporary network problem?
Your sources list entries are identical to mine. Maybe try again?
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#47 2019-09-22 10:28:38
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I haven't changed a thing with sources list. Checking it every time I get to my laptop.
I don't have patience or skill to dig deep enough every time system breaks itself or when I break something because of lack of patience and skill.
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#48 2019-09-23 00:40:17
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
Can you upgrade the one upgradeable package?
Also, remove all repos except for the essential one...
deb https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch main non-free contribRun 'sudo apt update' and post the code output (no screenshot is needed). Maybe the backport repo or something else is screwing things up.
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#49 2020-03-05 17:33:50
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Re: Sources - Helium sources.list and backports details
Remember:
Bunsen Labs Helium is fully compatible with Debian Stretch (v 9).
Bunsen Labs Lithium is fully compatible with Debian Buster (v 10).
Do not mix Litium and Stretch.
Do not use both Debian named version (Stretch/Buster) and descriptive version (stable).
With BunsenLabs, it is best to use named version.
When upgrading, you change repos both for Debian and for BunsenLabs repo. You have beter control what is happening then.
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