Testing Lithium iso discussion

malm · 2020-02-02 20:37:09

Original message: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 045#p96045

s-rod wrote:

I regularly remote my work pc from home using x2go. Within an x2go session jgmenu does not work and the default openbox menu is presented.

When using x2go, composite extension is not supported, so the color-depth becomes 24 bit (rgb - without alpha).

jgmenu has been fixed to support color-depths other than 32 bit.
See github issue https://github.com/johanmalm/jgmenu/issues/111

s-rod wrote:

Also noticed that when the x2go session starts there is no wall paper or tint2. Running nitrogen --restore will bring up the wallpaper with the following errors
--cut--
I have used x2go to remote multiple BL machines prior to Lithium and did not experienced the wall paper, tint2 issues.

This is because ~/.config/openbox/autostart has changed name. When running x2goclient, choose "bunsenlabs-session" rather than "openbox" or "openbox-session". Or create a new ~/.config/openbox/autostart file. @s-rod solved this, but thought the answer should be included here for reference.

kozimodo · 2020-02-14 02:25:32

Installed on my Acer S7-392 and everything is great with one exception -- light-locker sometimes freezes up. I initially thought it was the power manager but the last time it happened right after trying to sign back in and accidentally typing the wrong password. When it freezes, I have to ssh in and restart lightdm. I had no such problem with helium.

Thoughts, ideas?

Dendrobats · 2020-02-14 15:06:28

Hello,

Maybe not the right place for this post, but I have Theme suggestion for the next major release of BunshenLabs.
I always have believed that the first look of the distro should be beautiful and simple, so people would like to use it.

BUNSHENLABS SIMPLE
Tint2+Conky

Clean & Simple

With Paper icons

Files Tint2+Conky

Images should be copied in usr/shar/tint2
Any icon theme can be used I use Majove-CT

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damo · 2020-02-14 16:21:38

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dumetrulo · 2020-02-18 15:04:42

@Dendrobats This looks very nice indeed. In my opinion, the paper icons look better than the other ones.

Does this properly scale with resolution, and work with multiple screens?

hhh · 2020-02-19 01:22:32

http://dbox.id.lv/Bunshen/Bunshen4.png?i=1

That looks really lovely. Thanks for joining the BL Forums, dendro, I hope you keep posting. Great work.

I'd like to leave your post here where it is, since we don't have a current "visual refresh" development thread at the moment. If anyone can suggest a better thread for it, post your opinion.

@dendro, you should post this screenshot in our Monthly Screenshot Thread...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=6440

jimjamz · 2020-03-09 09:07:48

Hi all,

I'm not sure where the most appropriate place is for raising bugs for Lithium seeing as it's still in pre-release. I didn't want to pollute the bugs section as it seemed unfair. Please advise.

I have Lithium on bare metal hardware, Lenovo Thinkpad x270.

When BL goes into standby/sleep after a period of inactivity, it is not always possible to wake the BL session. The power key light throbs indicating the hardware is in standby. Pressing SPACE or other keys does not wake the device. Pressing the power button wakes the hardware (solid power light) but the screen does not activate. Pressing any keys subsequently also does not enable the screen.

The same scenario occurs if the device lid is closed then opened. The power light moves from throbbing to solid but the screen does not enable. The screen is also not backlit, indicating it has not been enabled.
The device only reacts to a semi-long press (1 second) of the power button which sends the shutdown signal. This is the only occurrence when the screen enables to display the power off sequence.

Before having BL Lithium as the host OS on the device, I had Debian 10 which suffered none of these issues. The device would wake immediately on key press, power button press or lid open.

Is this an ACPI issue in Lithium?

rbh · 2020-03-09 13:34:57

jimjamz wrote:

Is this an ACPI issue in Lithium?

Suspend works ok on my Lenovo L440 (J4ET79WW), Latitude D630, Assus E5888_M4A88TD-V EVO.

kozimodo · 2020-03-09 15:10:57

I fixed my (somewhat different) problem by installing the backported kernel. If you have Debian backports enabled:

sudo apt install linux-image-5.4.0-0.bpo.3-amd64

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jimjamz · 2020-03-13 23:29:11

It's something to do with the login screen (lightdm?). Upon opening the lid, or pressing the power button to wake after inactivity, the screen doesn't enable. However, if I enter my login password blindly, the screen is activated once logged in. Hopefully, this will narrow the cause of the issue.

As mentioned before, Debian 10 did not have this issue with immediate wake on lid open power button press or any key press.

jimjamz · 2020-03-13 23:30:04

Is there something I can check that may show the behaviour? dmesg? /var/log?

shaocaholica · 2020-04-10 14:44:13

Will there be a 32bit/i686 build like Helium? I admit its not that important but I like to keep some 32bit only hardware chugging along. I'm sure others do as well.

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rbh · 2020-04-10 17:49:31

shaocaholica wrote:

Will there be a 32bit/i686 build like Helium? I admit its not that important but I like to keep some 32bit only hardware chugging along.

Yes! It is said that BL wont drop 32-bit support.

I also have some 32 bit pc still in use. I have had no problems upgrading existing Helium installation. A little more work with new installation. Did one two weeks ago, wiped MX Linux and installed Helium --> Lithium on an IBM TP X30. Good for reading documentation, testing net and so on.

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shaocaholica · 2020-04-10 23:18:07

Will Lithium use Wayland or X? What about Helium currently?

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DeepDayze · 2020-04-11 01:47:39

shaocaholica wrote:

Will Lithium use Wayland or X? What about Helium currently?

Currently it's Xorg based but down the road Wayland may be considered.

hhh · 2020-04-11 02:04:12

Definitely staying with Xorg until Wayland develops more, number One, and letter B, until Debian stable catches up with whatever the first really stable Wayland release is.

So... X for a while yet.

johnraff · 2020-04-11 06:17:11

shaocaholica wrote:

Will there be a 32bit/i686 build like Helium? I admit its not that important but I like to keep some 32bit only hardware chugging along. I'm sure others do as well.

To repeat rbh, Yes!

But this time we're not planning a fullsized i386 iso, only a ~700MB CD version.
It will still be possible to upgrade a 32bit system installed off the CD iso to a full BunsenLabs setup though.
Neither will it be necessary to burn a CD - if the computer will boot from a USB stick, that will be fine too.

But, as the underlying Debian system gets more demanding of hardware resources with every upgrade, I don't know if people running 32bit machines (I still have two such laptops) would want to install everything available, but rather pick and choose software, or even consider removing some of the standard BunsenLabs software stack to keep their machines usable. That's a side-project I want to play with a bit for the above two machines, once Lithium is released. I'd appreciate any ideas other users have there...

DeepDayze · 2020-04-11 16:44:20

johnraff wrote:

shaocaholica wrote:
Will there be a 32bit/i686 build like Helium? I admit its not that important but I like to keep some 32bit only hardware chugging along. I'm sure others do as well.
To repeat rbh, Yes!
But this time we're not planning a fullsized i386 iso, only a ~700MB CD version.
It will still be possible to upgrade a 32bit system installed off the CD iso to a full BunsenLabs setup though.
Neither will it be necessary to burn a CD - if the computer will boot from a USB stick, that will be fine too.
But, as the underlying Debian system gets more demanding of hardware resources with every upgrade, I don't know if people running 32bit machines (I still have two such laptops) would want to install everything available, but rather pick and choose software, or even consider removing some of the standard BunsenLabs software stack to keep their machines usable. That's a side-project I want to play with a bit for the above two machines, once Lithium is released. I'd appreciate any ideas other users have there...

One idea for that is having BL-Welcome detect it's running on a 32 bit OS and tailoring the questions to suggest adding/removing any 32 bit stuff to customize the install for that machine.

Thoughts? Maybe this Q could well be moved to its own thread

rbh · 2020-04-11 22:14:20

I think it's a good idea to have one iso for the 32bit installation. It also is good to have the size of iso under 800 MB, so it can be read by old CD-Roms.
That is what has been expressed before.

About what software: light alternatives: Abiword and Gnumeric, instead of LibreOffice.
Maybe a package to switch betwen keyboard with super-key and without, and menu alternative. Many old i386 laptops, do not have the super key.

johnraff · 2020-04-12 00:51:32

DeepDayze wrote:

One idea for that is having BL-Welcome detect it's running on a 32 bit OS and tailoring the questions to suggest adding/removing any 32 bit stuff to customize the install for that machine.

bl-welcome is already detecting that the system was installed from a CD, and, if so, suggesting installing bunsen-meta-all to get the full BL software set. When other possibilities specific for old 32bit computers have been put together and tested, then maybe those options could be added, but this won't be in time for the Lithium release.

rbh wrote:

About what software: light alternatives: Abiword and Gnumeric, instead of LibreOffice.

Agreed - I think we've already left LibreOffice off the CD iso. I'm not an Abiword fan, though, unless it's improved recently.

Many old i386 laptops, do not have the super key.

I didn't know this - thanks for the warning!

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