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#26 2019-08-21 01:01:17

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

The test wallpaper is now in bunsen-images 10.2-1 as BL-Lithium.png and BL-Lithium-logo-only.png.

Higher definition and different aspect ratio versions will arrive later, this is just a taste.

The new provisional themes are also in bunsen-themes 10.0.3-1. They will also likely be tweaked a bit.


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#27 2019-08-31 09:23:40

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

lithium.th.png

Assuming this is not the final thing/look, or with other words, what parts can I 'comment/try to fix'?

jgmenu
- Starting to type to find 'tint2 chooser' and it doesn't (assuming due to the fact those are pipe-menus).

default tint2 (assuming this is final one)
- Power button seems big compared to other elements
possible fix, tint2rc, line 254

button_max_icon_size = 20

- Padding between launcher buttons seems to small compared to tray icons.
- Bunsen jgmenu logo could be a pixel or two bigger
possible fix, tint2rc, lines 234-237

button_padding = 0 0
button_background_id = 0
button_centered = 1
button_max_icon_size = 100

tint2.png
- There is no clear separation between launcher and taskbar, slightly confusing (No launchers on ^ that image)
- Middle mice brings some openbox menu, instead of killing the app (subjective)
fix, in tint2rc, line 199

mouse_middle = close

lxterminal
- No way to change line-height (unfixable at the moment)
- Font seems small and fuzzy
possible fix: another font and bigger (Fantasque Sans Mono Regular 12 - seems nice and in repos)
- Default prompt gives no indication on exit status (should provide something on error)
Silly example

# promp error
smiley()                                                                       
{
    if [ $? != 0 ]; then
		echo ':( '
	else
		echo ':) '
    fi
}

and prompt could be (there is many 'ifs' there, not sure how to handle those)

PS1='$(smiley)${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '

gives

:) b@lithium:~$ sdfsdf
bash: sdfsdf: command not found
:( b@lithium:~$ 

Let's implement
- Right-mouse-hold-down scroling (starts from openbox autostart), window resizing should not be alt+right mouse from then on.
- fzf installed and on by default (interesting ctrl+r and ctrl+t hotkeys in terminal), apt install fzf and this in .bashrc

# fzf /usr/share/doc/fzf/README.Debian
source /usr/share/doc/fzf/examples/key-bindings.bash

to be continued ...

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#28 2019-10-04 07:05:47

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

Just installed the Lithium repo next to my Buster XFCE installation smile

Here are my remarks
- My graphics run on AMD, but the installation of the intel graphics messed with LightDM. As a result, LightDM would not start. Turned out to be a problem with Xorg (no screens found). I fixed this by removing the 20-intel.conf file under xorg.conf.d
Extra info from output of lspci:

00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Carrizo (rev ca)
   Subsystem: Lenovo Wani [Radeon R5/R6/R7 Graphics]
   Kernel driver in use: amdgpu
   Kernel modules: amdgpu

- The jgmenu looked very minimalistic (plain color, margins too close to each other)
what is the recommended way to change this? Changing the theme in appearance did not influence this. Is it supposed to look this way on a fresh install? sorry, don't have a screenshot available right now..

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#29 2019-10-04 09:04:20

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

chrisdb wrote:

- My graphics run on AMD, but the installation of the intel graphics messed with LightDM. As a result, LightDM would not start. Turned out to be a problem with Xorg (no screens found).

I've had problem with Radeon HD 4250. I think its busters firmware that is buggy...

- The jgmenu looked very minimalistic (plain color, margins too close to each other)
what is the recommended way to change this? Changing the theme in appearance did not influence this.

Yes, it is supposed to be minimalistic, but configurable.
Under Preferences =>  Jgemenu, you can choose to sync theme to jgemnu.
Also choose to edit config file jgmenurc.


// Regards rbh

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#30 2019-10-04 14:37:12

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

chrisdb wrote:

I fixed this by removing the 20-intel.conf file under xorg.conf.d

Mea culpa. This fixes graphics issues on my system but causes problems in others. We're removing it and will recommend it to users as needed.

- The jgmenu looked very minimalistic (plain color, margins too close to each other)
what is the recommended way to change this? Changing the theme in appearance did not influence this. Is it supposed to look this way on a fresh install? sorry, don't have a screenshot available right now..

If syncing the theme doesn't produce the desired result, you'll have to manually alter the config file. @malm can give you more info..

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#31 2019-10-04 16:35:04

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

So when is Lithium comming out? I already upgraded my base to Buster, but haven't changed to use this new PPAs yet.

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#32 2019-10-05 01:48:38

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

When it's ready.

We'll have a 64bit public (forum) testing ISO out soon, within a month. Hopefully sooner, but, you know, life...

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#33 2019-10-05 07:18:24

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

^Yes, life...comes with surprises sometimes, thanks for the time perspctive anyway. smile


Keep BunsenLabs #!yish please.

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#34 2019-10-08 18:16:11

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

Lithium is looking great -- installed on a KVM machine and have been tweaking the jgmenu configuration with malm's help.

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#35 2019-10-08 18:34:32

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

Just a thought on the current experimental Lithium version (I am running on MX19b3, also experimental)... I added Head_on_a_stick' obmenu-generator repackage/rebuild for Buster.  It works wonderfully.  You may wish to include it in a future update.  I found it here:

https://software.opensuse.org/download. … -generator

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#36 2019-10-09 23:36:44

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

obmenu-generator is easily available and easily implemented, as you've discovered, and it's a great option (I've used it before).

We're focused on jgmenu for lithium, but feel free to recommend obmenu-generator as an option in general, and especially in relevant support threads here. Thanks for the suggestion!

More info here (Dynamic menus on BunsenLabs- A Comprehensive Guide)...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=3387

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#37 2019-10-13 07:22:30

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

When Lithium goes from testing to stable, will the changes in the source list be handled through an update? Or will it require manual intervention by the user?


Keep BunsenLabs #!yish please.

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#38 2019-10-13 07:40:19

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

^The BunsenLabs sources will have to be edited manually to use the "official" repository.
It's only one line in one file though, and we'll try to post it prominently.


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#39 2019-10-13 13:20:00

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

Along similar lines @johnraff.  Will the updated Lithium repos continue to work with other dstros like MX and antiX, as they do today?

Last edited by manyroads (2019-10-13 13:21:13)


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#40 2019-10-13 14:26:05

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

@johnraff, thank you for the swift response. I am thinking of expanding Lithium to my work laptop to be, it might be a little bit early yet, but who dares wins! big_smile

Well, I am not worried really, it is Debian stable after all. And yes, I do understand that it is all on my own risk. wink


Keep BunsenLabs #!yish please.

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#41 2019-10-13 23:18:06

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

@dolly, it's the same as running Hydrogen on stretch, go for it.

@manyroads, I'm not sure if we'll also switch the repo from kelaino, but other than that everything will hopefully be fine. @John can give us more info.

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#42 2019-10-14 08:12:21

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

@manyroads the repo URI will change when Lithium goes "official" (kelaino is only for testing, and probably can't handle full-on load), but the packages will be the same.


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#43 2019-10-14 13:10:18

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

@johnraff @hhh

I'd very much like to be able to add whatever the new repo for BL Lithium will be to both antiX & MX rather than having to use a combined BL Lithium / Debian repo set.  Will that be possible?  I certainly do not mind that the release BL repo is different from the current experimental repo.

Full disclosure: My hope is that your plans are to maintain BL Lithium OB features in a distinct repo; thus allowing any who use other Debian base(s) the option to create fully functional BL Lithium Desktops on the myriad discrete Debian derivatives.

Whatever your plans are, know that many in the broader FOSS world greatly value & appreciate your efforts.

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#44 2019-10-15 07:06:39

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

Nothing will change, essentially, from the current situation with BL Helium, except the version of Debian on which BL is based. BL packages are on our own repos, Debian packages are on Debian repos.


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#45 2019-10-15 15:03:59

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

That's great news @johnraff.  I will plan on building both an MX Linux19 and antiX19 instruction set (how-to guide) for those who might like to use MX/antiX Debian based distros with BunsenLabs Lithium.


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#46 2019-10-16 05:28:01

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

There is now an Asia-based mirror of this repository available, which should give much faster downloads for people in this region. See the OP: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 524#p81524


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#47 2019-10-16 12:46:19

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

Again thank you @johnraff.  I'll do some testing using the asia repo.


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#48 2019-10-16 19:00:15

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

I have everything running on MX19RC with the RC? (asia) version of BunsenLabs Lithium... it works wonderfully and everything seems stable.

Screenshot.png

Updated build instructions are here:

https://wp.me/P4apmc-oW

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#49 2019-10-18 08:12:45

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

Hey there!

I ran into a problem today:

Err:10 https://kelaino.bunsenlabs.org/~johnraff/debian lithium InRelease
  The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 8FFD2CE993071671 John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org>
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
All packages are up to date.
W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: https://kelaino.bunsenlabs.org/~johnraff/debian lithium InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 8FFD2CE993071671 John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org>
W: Failed to fetch https://kelaino.bunsenlabs.org/~johnraff/debian/dists/lithium/InRelease  The following signatures were invalid: EXPKEYSIG 8FFD2CE993071671 John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org>
W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

I have tried to fix this by using:

naik@GerryTSSD[~]$ LANG=C sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 8FFD2CE993071671
[sudo] password for naik:         
Executing: /tmp/user/0/apt-key-gpghome.8IhtdXRCxl/gpg.1.sh --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 8FFD2CE993071671
gpg: key 3ADA82C12153DCF1: "John Crawley <john@bunsenlabs.org>" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg:              unchanged: 1

but it didn't help. Can you tell me what the Problem is?

EDIT: changed Language

Naik --greetz

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#50 2019-10-18 08:53:37

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Re: Experimental BunsenLabs Lithium repository has been set up

Hi Naik, it looks as if my key has expired! I should have been paying closer attention, but thanks for catching it. This happened once before so it shouldn't be too hard to fix, but I'll have to look it up again. roll

Give me a little while...


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