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#776 2019-07-25 02:49:58

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glittersloth wrote:

I need something simple now. Maybe I'll revisit Arch and get it hijacked by Void via Bedrock, just to see the VM window go up in flames. Or maybe I'll try Solus. No experience with it but always read good things.

I’d think you’d prefer void with today’s offerings.

Kind of in between Debians stability/ inconvenient abstraction layer and arch’s convenient abstraction layer/ cesspool AUR.  Plus it’s more BSD like since xbps is modeled after NetBSD’s pkgsrc.

I personally like Ubuntu MATE LTS.  You can make it do anything the other boys do with enterprise grade security updates.


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#777 2019-07-26 02:01:30

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cog wrote:

I personally like Ubuntu MATE LTS.  You can make it do anything the other boys do with enterprise grade security updates.

Don't you get that with Debian Stable as well? (Not wishing to argue with you, just curious because I thought Debian Stable had enterprise grade security, and you seem to be suggesting it doesn't.)

Anyway, I've installed the latest version of Pardus, 17.5 (deepin edition). This is the first distro I've used with deepin as the desktop manager and so far I'm impressed; it looks a lot like Gnome but uses fewer system resources to run, and Pardus itself is a stable and competent distro with little to criticise apart from perhaps the rather dark colour theme (though you get used to that).

I've been using it today and so far it looks competent on the whole and is working well. It also has an XFce edition for those who prefer that desktop.

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#778 2019-07-26 02:49:31

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@kernelpanic

Solid point dude and I totally agree, I was just saying that you get a bunch of solid Ubuntu community members and Cannonical employees helping out too.

(Also, I’m kind of distro agnostic, they all do a great job to me)

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#779 2019-08-04 16:07:48

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cog wrote:

Somehow my stupid iPhone double posted.

(It’s probably not Tim Cook’s fault but just good old PEBTAB, problem exist between touchscreen and beer)

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 889#p88889

OK to use, cog?

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#780 2019-08-06 14:39:55

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glittersloth wrote:

Or maybe I'll try Solus. No experience with it but always read good things.

Someone handed me an old Windows laptop to save, so I decided to give Solus a bare-metal install. First impressions are mixed. There's indeed a lot to like about Budgie. Sort of feels like a hybrid of ChromeOS and Win10. Bar on bottom with an applications menu on its left, followed by some 'pinned' app icons and the usual systray/time/notifications buttons on the right.

This laptop is pretty meagre and weird in terms of hardware - Intel Celeron, no fan but has ventilation gaps, optical drive but no ethernet jack, 15" TN 1366x768 display (if ppi were jeans, this would be ultra vintage) - but the Budgie desktop environment seems to run smoothly enough. Some jank when I slide the notifications panel in and out, but that's about it. It feels more like a fork of Mutter than a ground-up thing, and inherits some of Gnome's baggage as a result, like GTK3 hard dependency, certain default apps, settings controls and that infamous tracker/indexing daemon. Also has some weird keybind defaults. I can't for the life of me figure out why window and workspace management duties are shared between the Super and Alt/Ctrl binds on so many distros. It's just convoluted. On the bright side, it hasn't adopted the dudebrotwitchgamer WASD-for-directional bindings like that tiling plugin for Gnome shell. Phew!!

Overall, I'd say Solus is a decent enough replacement for Windows refugees. Especially good if you want something that saves users from their own incompetence, provided you harden the web browser before handing it back to them. For Linux users, I'm not certain. On one hand, it's low maintenance for a "rolling" style release, but at the same time doesn't come with a wealth of packages in its repository. What's there is pretty up-to-date (Firefox is ver68, for example), and you still have Snap and Flatpack for new-school millennial nixers, plus an unstable repo. Speaking of repos, the package manager is simple but effective enough (at least according to what I read in the man page). Pretty nippy too. Not quite as fast as Alpine's so-fast-it-feels-like-it-didn't-even-do-anything, but much nippier than the usual Debian apt/aptitude or Fedora yum/dnf. Then again, I suppose that's partly down to the spartan repo size, but hey, they've got oh-my-zsh and powerlevel9k themes, so you'll feel right at home with your overweight github/unixporn circlejerk shell setup.

Lastly, I can't say if it's a fault of GTK3 or Firefox, but it's pretty damning on both when you can get schemes via the Firefox Color Extension integrating better than the actual GTK theme.

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#781 2019-08-07 14:20:54

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

glittersloth wrote:
glittersloth wrote:

Or maybe I'll try Solus. No experience with it but always read good things.

so you'll feel right at home with your overweight github/unixporn circlejerk shell


Does it include i3-gaps and a collection of anime wallpapers too?


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#782 2019-08-07 17:57:15

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cog wrote:
glittersloth wrote:
glittersloth wrote:

Or maybe I'll try Solus. No experience with it but always read good things.

so you'll feel right at home with your overweight github/unixporn circlejerk shell


Does it include i3-gaps and a collection of anime wallpapers too?

Returned the laptop to owner earlier today so I can't double check, but I recall the Solus Software Center (graphical front-end for eopkg) having a dedicated i3 section. So yeah, you can have your gapped tiler + slow loading shell + obese font cache. No tentacle wallpapers though.

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#783 2019-08-14 14:37:00

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Scouring Distrowatch today, just catching up with stuff. Found this in one of their Distrwatch Weekly roundups.

BlueLight Linux wrote:

BlueLight, formerly called OS.js Linux, is a lightweight web-based Linux distro powered by OS.js. It uses the power of Electron to run a cloud based operating system, OS.js, to provide the user with a more web-based experience.

What?!! Am I the only one here that thinks this is an amalgamation of everything that's wrong in the world? This is why there'll never be a year of the Linux desktop. Because we've got people distributing this kind of dipshittery that tries to replace the wheel with an egg shell!


But there's still hope

Distrowatch Reviewer wrote:

At the time of writing there is no documentation on installing the distribution and the link to the project's wiki is broken. The project's blog is also off-line at the time of writing, making me wonder if the project may be abandoned.

Good!! Hopefully the neanderthings that thought up this asinineism have dropped off the face of the planet.

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#784 2019-08-14 14:51:23

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^ yeah that is a strange mix of software going on for an operating system.

Ive recently tried Guix, the GNU Linux distro. The download and installation via an iso in qemu took over 2 hours for some reason, works fine for the moment though. Need more time to play around with it, especially the package manager. Earlier versions lacked a decent terminal installer i believe?, they seemed to have ironed out the bugs in the curses installer i used. Oh yeah, i chose the Xfce desktop and man that brought in over 600 MB of dependencies with no way that i knew of at the time of installing to stop, so i can only gather that the meta package is a requirement for xfce to work, lots of bloat i will never use. They use a similar function to debian tasksel to choose xfce or mate or gnome, so i guess you just have to learn how to do a frugal install if that is possible.

https://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?d … ion=guixsd

https://guix.gnu.org/

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#785 2019-08-14 18:01:27

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Re: Distro-hoppers anonymous

glittersloth wrote:

Scouring Distrowatch today, just catching up with stuff. Found this in one of their Distrwatch Weekly roundups.

BlueLight Linux wrote:

BlueLight, formerly called OS.js Linux, is a lightweight web-based Linux distro powered by OS.js. It uses the power of Electron to run a cloud based operating system, OS.js, to provide the user with a more web-based experience.

What?!! Am I the only one here that thinks this is an amalgamation of everything that's wrong in the world? This is why there'll never be a year of the Linux desktop. Because we've got people distributing this kind of dipshittery that tries to replace the wheel with an egg shell!


But there's still hope

Distrowatch Reviewer wrote:

At the time of writing there is no documentation on installing the distribution and the link to the project's wiki is broken. The project's blog is also off-line at the time of writing, making me wonder if the project may be abandoned.

Good!! Hopefully the neanderthings that thought up this asinineism have dropped off the face of the planet.

Oh my, the whole review reads like a joke.
Actually, the whole roundup.
I guess we need more stories like this to show the complainers how well off they actually are with something like debian (or bunsenlabs of course) wink

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