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#1 2015-11-14 02:29:49

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[SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

Noticed an odd quality with Conky. It might just disappear on some new boot session.

But, fortunately, if you open the Conky Chooser table, you can reset it and re-appears.

Last weekend, I took time to binge play some Debian games after a late Friday night installation. There were almost 100+ different games that were tried over two days.
My observation after playing some of these Debian games, is that Conky repositioned
itself somewhere else on the screen. Again, I could reset it by opening the Conky chooser table.

Seems that others are working on Conky projects and this is my two cents of observations.

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#2 2015-11-14 02:39:39

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

Recently noticed an odd quality using Conky.

Last weekend, installed a group of 100+ Debian games and binge played for two days.
I noticed, from time to time, the Conky repositioned itself on the screen after playing  a few of these games. I could reset the Conky with the Conky Chooser Table and it worked fine after that.

I understand there are several working on Conky projects now, and wanted to give these observations as my two cents worth.

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#3 2015-11-14 03:14:33

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

[ @OP - Please don't post duplicate questions. Threads merged and moved here ]

Did you edit the conky, or just restart it via the Conky Chooser?

Did you notice if there were any hidden windows, or your screen resolution was changed by whatever you were doing?

What is the `own_window_type` of the conky?

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#4 2015-11-14 08:26:12

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

jalexander9 wrote:

Noticed an odd quality with Conky. It might just disappear on some new boot session.

that shouldn't happen.
please elaborate (conky edited, autostart edited, apps installed...), preferably by providing the files in question here.

My observation after playing some of these Debian games, is that Conky repositioned
itself somewhere else on the screen.

i have observed that myself.
some games do that, others don't.
imho the game is the culprit in that case, not conky.


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#5 2015-11-14 16:49:30

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

I also experience something similar.

In the conky chooser I chose two conky scripts. One is my own script to put on the RHS of the screen, the other is (to the LHS of the screen) a slightly edited version of the 1b1 weather conky script from https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=189

After boot it happens sometimes that only one of the two conkys appears. Usually the one displayed is the weather one, but I think it also happened once or twice that my own was displayed and the weather conky was not. If I go in the menu, and click on Preferences > Conky > Saved Sessions > Default, kill the running conkys, then both conkys will come back.

I am not sure what can cause this, and it seems to happen arbitrarily. Most of the time everything is fine.

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#6 2015-11-14 16:53:58

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

@damo - sorry, won't double post again, my fault...:(...

Q&A1: Did not edit conky just the default originally installed. Just opened the
       Conky Chooser Table and clicked or re-clicked the selection.
Q&A2: Did notice some clearer pictures on the more advanced games, but hidden windows
         well it is hard to say, since screen may change in nanoseconds.
Q&A3: The result of: <$ nano /home/user/.conkyrc> ...line 16...normal....

Hope this helps.

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#7 2015-11-14 17:12:24

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

ghorvath wrote:

I am not sure what can cause this, and it seems to happen arbitrarily. Most of the time everything is fine.

Maybe try changing the sleep time before starting `bl-conky-session` in your autostart. The default line is

## Start the Conky session (the default conkyrc will run if no sessions have been set)
(sleep 2s; bl-conky-session --autostart) &

If that doesn't work then try....
In `~/.config/conky/conky-sessionfile` there should be a list of conky commands to autostart your conkys. The default is to pause 1s between starting each one - for example:

conky -c /home/damo/.config/conky/waldorf-default/right-conkyrc & sleep 1s
conky -c /home/damo/.config/conky/BL-Ellipses-Blue.conkyrc & sleep 1s

Try increasing the sleep time and see if that makes any difference. If it does then we can edit the sleep time in your `bl-conkyzen` (at line #265)


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#8 2015-11-14 17:19:44

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

jalexander9 wrote:

Hope this helps.

wot?
no, it didn't.
i'm sorry but i have no clue what that last post was about.


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#9 2015-11-14 17:28:30

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

ohnonot wrote:
jalexander9 wrote:

Hope this helps.

wot?
no, it didn't.
i'm sorry but i have no clue what that last post was about.

He is answering Q's in post#3

ohnonot wrote:

imho the game is the culprit in that case, not conky.

That sounds about right to me as well

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#10 2015-11-14 22:23:52

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

Thanks for your recommended actions. I'm sorry if some these posts seem confused.

Basically, this is just more of an annoyance than anything else. I wanted to report what I have observed and offer the community at large a heads up, if needs be.

I will keep your recommended remedial action if I encounter more problems in the future.
For now, I am not going to edit any of the conky files until something else occurs.

Thanks for all your comments.

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#11 2015-11-15 08:35:19

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

well, conky should not "just disappear on some new boot session".
that is definitely a problem.
what i would like to ascertain is whether it happens on a vanilla bl install, or has something to do with those games (and maybe other apps and their dependencies?) you installed. you didn't by any chance install a desktop manager? something to have icons on your desktop?

@damo: is it possible that the bl conky chooser starts acting up when you use it too often?


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#12 2015-11-15 15:03:48

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

ohnonot wrote:

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@damo: is it possible that the bl conky chooser starts acting up when you use it too often?

I doubt if the script itself is the problem, since the OP finds that restarting the conkys restores them OK. As you might imagine, I've repeatedly used the script a million times and not seen these issues.

I suspect it is a graphics issue caused by some of the games. `own_window_type normal` allows conkys to be moved, so it would be interesting to know if the problem also occurs with `own_window_type desktop`.

The other problem with conkys not reappearing consistently I think is probably due to other processes interfering, hence the suggestion to experiment with the sleep times.

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#13 2015-11-15 19:40:41

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

damo wrote:

`own_window_type normal` allows conkys to be moved, so it would be interesting to know if the problem also occurs with `own_window_type desktop`.

I switched from 'normal' to 'desktop' to avoid conky disappearing when using W-d (Super+d).

Recently, I set margins in openbox and on next boot conky had repositioned itself outside of the margin.

The solution was 'own_window_type override'. Conky stays put and I can right/middle click on it for openbox menu/desktops.

Not sure if this applies to OP as I don't game on my laptop. I've also never had conky disappear on boot.

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#14 2015-11-15 20:13:22

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

Games might change screen-res and if you change that conky will reposition, unless it is top-left, is my observation.

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#15 2015-11-15 22:00:03

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

An update: went back to a partial list of the Debian games and tried to recreate what happened. Some of the 'Retro-Arcade-style' space games like: "Power-Manga" and
"Open-Invaders" take over the entire display monitor (possible an independent X-session)
after playing each of these games Conky moved from the far-right-top-margin over to the left about 5 cm's. Then, rebooting the system completely, Conky re-positions, correctly,
to the original set-position.

Most other games use a simple window to contain the entirety of the game being played
(without a global takeover of the entire display monitor).

Thanks to all for comments on this, it really helped to have understanding on this!

Thanks for the remedies, as well! You never know when I may need to use them!

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#16 2015-11-22 19:57:23

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

Another update: Conky flaked out again and did not start at boot.

@damo - Post #7 - Applied the first of your three recommended edits, the one which adds sleep time (+2 seconds) to the autostart file.

This seems to be working, so thanks again!

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#17 2015-11-22 20:46:28

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Re: [SOLVED] Conky disappears from time to time...also Conky move aft gam

^ cool.

Not an uncommon fix for some autostarted applications.


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