[SOLVED] Help - how can I remove Network Manager safely?

Sector11 · 2019-07-10 05:11:40

Thank you all.

BLizgreat! · 2019-07-10 05:14:25

^ Lol, definitely welcomed my friend.

PackRat · 2019-07-10 14:46:44

BLizgreat! wrote:

Just a babble note. Someone can get ceni from the Siduction gnu/Linux repos. Long since taken to grabbing it from there. Still runs fine. Using it on my old crusty laptop on a Debian 9.8 and a 9.7 install. Still runs great. Agree with you Sector, like ceni the best out of what nm's I've dorked with.

ceni in the siduction repos - as I recall, you can download just the deb file and install it with gdebi or the command line and it will get the dependencies (3-4 perl files). You don't need to add Siduction (Sid) repos to your sources that way. Other option is to get the tarball and compile from source.

PackRat · 2019-07-10 17:10:26

earlybird wrote:

PackRat wrote:
BLizgreat! wrote:
Just a babble note. Someone can get ceni from the Siduction gnu/Linux repos. Long since taken to grabbing it from there. Still runs fine. Using it on my old crusty laptop on a Debian 9.8 and a 9.7 install. Still runs great. Agree with you Sector, like ceni the best out of what nm's I've dorked with.

ceni in the siduction repos - as I recall, you can download just the deb file and install it with gdebi or the command line and it will get the dependencies (3-4 perl files). You don't need to add Siduction (Sid) repos to your sources that way. Other option is to get the tarball and compile from source.
We used to update ceni in BL's jessie-backports repo https://www.bunsenlabs.org/repoidx.html … ion&v=ceni too. If it works well enough today we could push it to stretch-backports. stretch-backports, because ceni is included in Debian Buster (and will thereby be also available in BL Lithium) https://packages.debian.org/search?suit … words=ceni.

Thanks for chiming in, I thought that it got put in backports, but couldn't find it searching the forum.

It should work (but not with ipv6); as I recall it's just a perl script - so it has some perl dependencies. Give it a test drive on Lithium-beta, I suppose.

BLizgreat! · 2019-07-10 17:28:08

Definitely more than one way to go about it. Always just opted for the easy button in this and got it from Siduction. Hadn't known ceni doesn't do ipv6? Should take more interest in how to compile from source anyway but outside of the kernel, have yet to work up the interest in it.

sweet, had no idea ceni is available in Buster! Thanks for the heads up.

Sector11 · 2019-07-10 17:40:09

Just keeps getting better.

Thanks guys.

PackRat · 2019-07-10 17:40:27

BLizgreat! wrote:

Definitely more than one way to go about it. Always just opted for the easy button in this and got it from Siduction. Hadn't known ceni doesn't do ipv6? Should take more interest in how to compile from source anyway but outside of the kernel, have yet to work up the interest in it.
sweet, had no idea ceni is available in Buster! Thanks for the heads up.

I think I read it in a Siduction blog entry; ceni was dropped (deprecated) in favor of NetworkManager in part because ceni didn't support ipv6.

BLizgreat! · 2019-07-10 22:08:21

^ Appreciate it, wasn't aware of that. Will eventually have to find something else but until then ceni just does a great job.

DeepDayze · 2019-07-11 00:59:12

Ceni should be kept around as an emergency tool in case it's ever needed. Having this in the toolkit to get a network connection up and running in case NM or any other network management tool ever gets borked.

PackRat · 2019-07-11 02:12:40

^ Yes, it's handy, but I think what unklar posted about using systemd is the route to go. Ceni is no longer maintained, so depending on how Debian progresses, it may no longer work.

I think hoas posted a how-to for setting up systemd networking a while back. Not sure if it is still accurate.

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DeepDayze · 2019-07-11 03:04:01

PackRat wrote:

^ Yes, it's handy, but I think what unklar posted about using systemd is the route to go. Ceni is no longer maintained, so depending on how Debian progresses, it may no longer work.
I think hoas posted a how-to for setting up systemd networking a while back. Not sure if it is still accurate.

You may be right about Ceni so good to have alternatives when NM gets borked. Perhaps even a simple networking script to get a network connection up in a pinch is all that's needed in emergency situations until the normal apps to manage connections can be fixed for example.

Perhaps all you need is something simple to bring up an ethernet NIC if you have a desktop and not using vpn.

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