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PackRat · 2019-04-22 00:18:55

beaker wrote:

Ah. Ok.
Dobbie03 wrote:
How do I get hold of this epic wallpaper
https://alpha.wallhaven.cc/wallpaper/717101

thanks

Döbbie03 · 2019-04-22 04:06:31

beaker wrote:

Ah. Ok.
Dobbie03 wrote:
How do I get hold of this epic wallpaper
https://alpha.wallhaven.cc/wallpaper/717101

Thank you! Now to find a 4k version

CanadianClubXXX · 2019-04-23 16:18:56

mrneilypops wrote:

https://dwmx.org/dwmx-2019-rc1/
work continues...

Hi,

Your work is really fantastic, really wonderful. I have installed it (Alpha 4) on my two personal laptops and I am quite happy with it.

The only downside about the experience is that on my second installation, I used cfdisk to reduce the partition in where BunsenLabs was installed (to get some free space to install dwmX), and... well... it seems that cfdisk reduced the partition but not the filesystem, so I lost the partition (not mounting, not bootable anymore). I have backups of all important things, so no problem. But something to be aware of in future installations. In the first installation I used gparted and the original partition is OK.

Anyway, thanks a lot for this amazing piece of work. Love i3, love openbox and now also love dmw. I was expecting the new final release of Debian Stable to upgrade my systems (pure Debian in one machine, BL in the other)... but now I expecting not only this, but your final product, even if the Alpha4 I use is totally stable. I apt-upgraded yesterday with no problem.

Salut,

One suggestion: I'd put all suckless code in one single folder (suckless/dwm, suckless dmenu, suckless/st...) and not everything in the /home. But it's a question of tastes.

mrneilypops · 2019-04-24 12:56:34

@CanadianClubXXX
Thank you for your feedback. So pleased you are enjoying dwmX.

CanadianClubXXX wrote:

The only downside about the experience is that on my second installation, I used cfdisk to reduce the partition in where BunsenLabs was installed (to get some free space to install dwmX), and... well... it seems that cfdisk reduced the partition but not the filesystem, so I lost the partition (not mounting, not bootable anymore). I have backups of all important things, so no problem.

Not sure what happened above. Perhaps there are some cfdisk experts that might know more....

dwmX is in feature freeze so what you see now will be '+/-' what is in the final release in line with Debian 10/10.1.
I am hoping to release RC1 soon.

Your points have been noted all feedback is welcome.

mrneilypops · 2019-04-24 12:58:01

@beaker
Sorry if I misled you.
RC1 is still being tweaked...I will release it very soon

CanadianClubXXX · 2019-05-07 16:56:17

One question to anybody using dwm ...

I can't make multimonitor working. At home there is no problem because I have on single monitor, but at work I have two (laptop + external 22inch).

I use at start the system:

xrandr --output HDMI2 --off --output HDMI1 --off --output DP1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal --output eDP1 --mode 1366x768 --pos 1920x0 --rotate normal

or simplyfing:

xrandr --output DP1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0 --rotate normal --output eDP1 --mode 1366x768 --pos 1920x0 --rotate normal

but then dwm not detect two different monitors to display tags, but one big extended area. gnome, i3, qtile and bspwm gets the correct behavior and "understand" that there are two monitors. But not dwm.

Any thoughts?

thx in advance !

---

And doing this (after cancelling one monitor):

xrandr --output DP1 --mode 1920x1080 --output eDP1 --mode 1366x768

I get a mirror between the two. No the desired behavior.

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I have debian jessie, and using dwm6.1.

I commented those lines:

# Xinerama, comment if you don't want it
# XINERAMALIBS = -lXinerama
# XINERAMAFLAGS = -DXINERAMA

in config.mk because, if not, I get this error when "make":

dwm build options:
CFLAGS = -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Os -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -DVERSION="6.1" -DXINERAMA
LDFLAGS = -s -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXinerama -lfontconfig -lXft -lXrender
CC = cc
CC dwm.c
dwm.c:40:37: fatal error: X11/extensions/Xinerama.h: No such file or directory
#include <X11/extensions/Xinerama.h>
^
compilation terminated.
Makefile:18: recipe for target 'dwm.o' failed
make: *** [dwm.o] Error 1

Last edited by CanadianClubXXX (2019-05-07 17:10:52)

malm · 2019-05-07 21:37:10

It’s xinerama which gives multiple monitor support.

Have you installed libxinerama-dev?

Some new intel graphics drivers dont support xinerama, so might have to look for xrandr patch.

CanadianClubXXX · 2019-05-08 11:55:16

malm wrote:

It’s xinerama which gives multiple monitor support.
Have you installed libxinerama-dev?
Some new intel graphics drivers dont support xinerama, so might have to look for xrandr patch.

Yeah, worked with libxinerama-dev. Now it's time to test dwm with two monitors.

Thx a lot, malm !!!!!

mrneilypops · 2019-05-08 17:16:42

mrneilypops wrote:

@beaker
Sorry if I misled you.
RC1 is still being tweaked...I will release it very soon wink

Small update for interested parties

->dwmX-2019-RC1 is in 'feature freeze' (sounds grand but only upstream updates applied to what I already have in sourceforge)
->dwmX-2019-RC1 will follow release of Debian 10.0 Buster release.
->dwmX-2019-1 will follow release of Debian 10.1

->dwmX-2020-Millie will follow Debian Sid [late 2019 - working title]

Thanks all for your patience

malm · 2019-05-08 19:44:20

@CanadianClubXXX glad to be of help

Colonel Panic · 2019-06-07 18:09:17

I'm posting this from Siduction 18.3.0, which (as you can probably guess) is based on Debian Sid. It looks well featured and very capable but it's not a beginner's distro in my view though it's got what looks like a very good manual on the website;

https://manual.siduction.org/welcome

I'd say it's a good choice for someone who's not too concerned about rock solid stability (it doesn't promise that, though I haven't had any problems yet) and wants to use the latest cutting edge software such as Firefox 67.0.1.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2019-06-07 21:37:20)

unklar · 2019-06-07 19:47:57

You are probably making a funny contribution here because nothing of what you write is correct.

- siduction 6.3.0 is unknown to me
- siduction 18.3.0 was released a year ago (here the xorg I like to use)
- is correct, it is not a beginner distribution.
- the manual is from 2016 and has not been up to date for a long time
- it is an extremely reliable rolling release (if the user consistently adheres to certain rules)
- the user gets the latest software

I can highly recommend the siduction distribution for advanced users.

Edit:
Now it's hard to download a one year old ISO from a rolling release and do an apt update && apt dist-upgrade, which probably goes wrong.
Therefore the interested user should register in the forum and ask for his desired ISO on IRC. He will get a current snapshot.

Last edited by unklar (2019-06-07 20:16:28)

Colonel Panic · 2019-06-07 21:22:30

unklar wrote:

You are probably making a funny contribution here because nothing of what you write is correct.

Not true, by your own admission later in the post.

unklar wrote:

siduction 6.3.0 is unknown to me

It was a mistake; 18.3.0 was the correct number and I've updated my post accordingly. Thank you for the correction.

unklar wrote:

siduction 18.3.0 was released a year ago (here the xorg I like to use)
- is correct, it is not a beginner distribution.

So your comment that nothing I wrote was correct is wrong, yes?

unklar wrote:

- the manual is from 2016 and has not been up to date for a long time

When you can remember watching Aldrin and Armstrong walking on the moon, as I can, you don't think three years is a "long time".

unklar wrote:

it is an extremely reliable rolling release (if the user consistently adheres to certain rules) - the user gets the latest software
I can highly recommend the siduction distribution for advanced users.

So we agree on something else?

unklar wrote:

Edit:
Now it's hard to download a one year old ISO from a rolling release and do an apt update && apt dist-upgrade, which probably goes wrong.
Therefore the interested user should register in the forum and ask for his desired ISO on IRC. He will get a current snapshot.

Yes, they actually told me to do that on the Siduction forum but I've not the faintest idea of how to use IRC. However, I did update the distro after installation and it went well.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2019-06-07 21:40:04)

Sector11 · 2019-06-07 21:59:27

Colonel Panic wrote:

unklar wrote:
You are probably making a funny contribution here because nothing of what you write is correct.
Not true, by your own admission later in the post.
unklar wrote:
siduction 6.3.0 is unknown to me
It was a mistake; 18.3.0 was the correct number and I've updated my post accordingly. Thank you for the correction.

And there is the basis of why Unklar said you were "making a funny".

Everything else Unklar, and you, said is true.

I've never tried Siduction, but I ran a "Crunchified" SID for a couple of years. Debian SID is more stable than Debian Testing actually and a lot of people will attest to that, IF, as Unklar, stated:

the user consistently adheres to certain rules

Now everyone grab a towel and Don't Panic.

Last edited by Sector11 (2019-06-07 22:00:20)

Colonel Panic · 2019-06-08 05:40:24

I agree (and thanks for replying). I think the most important question though is whether it's worth sacrificing the guaranteed reliability and stability of Debian Stable for the more recent software of either Testing or Unstable.

I can easily live without the most recent Firefox (and do when I'm not using Siduction), but it's very nice to have LibreOffice 6.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2019-06-08 05:40:56)

unklar · 2019-06-08 08:18:43

@Colonel Panic,

it's a pity that you didn't understand the fun I made...
Please excuse me!

I am glad if you use siduction and I congratulate you that you have successfully completed the update.
You can find the IRC channel on your desktop as a desktop icon or in the menu.

The stability of the rolling release is achieved by frequent dist-upgrade. Some people do this on a daily basis. I do it weekly.

unklar · 2019-06-08 08:20:00

@Sector11

I'm glad to hear from you. Thank you very much!

Last edited by unklar (2019-06-08 08:21:59)

Sector11 · 2019-06-08 17:59:43

unklar wrote:

@Sector11
I'm glad to hear from you. Thank you very much!

Hallo mein guten Freund

My "Crunchified" SID install ran for a couple of years and the ONLY reason it died was because I was lax with the things I "must do". But it was awesome. I was one for running one of these daily:

alias sdup2='sudo apt update && apt dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends --simulate'
alias dup2='sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends'

but it was "apt-get" back then.

@Colonel Panic - agreed, I do not "need" the latest and greatest of any program that's why I am writing this from my:

 08 Jun 19 @ 14:52:23 ~
   $ s11
System:    Host: s12 Kernel: 3.16.0-7-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.9.2) Desktop: Openbox 3.5.2
           Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 8

Debian 9 is in the "tweaking" process! Don't even need LO buy my wife has a few document files so there it sits.

Last edited by Sector11 (2019-06-08 18:00:13)

ratcheer · 2019-06-10 17:54:01

I ran Siduction for a few years, quite some time back. I agree that it is an excellent distro. I can't recall why I abandoned it, but I remember it fondly.

beaker · 2019-06-10 20:34:23

^likewise. Would have no reservations using it as my daily.

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