Dragging shaded windows in Openbox

Colonel Panic · 2019-04-17 08:11:45

Hi again. I've been trying to recreate in Openbox a composite action which is easy to do in Fluxbox - shading a window (which is easy enough to do, there's a button on the toolbar for it) and then dragging the now shaded window without unshading it. When I try to do this in Openbox, the window automatically unshades.

Has anyone got any suggestions as to how I might do this? I've tried to do the straightforward thing

  <context name="Titlebar">
    <mousebind button="Left" action="Drag">
      <action name="Move"/>
    </mousebind>

with the window shaded, but there seems to be something else in the rc.xml file which unshades the window before I try to drag it.

Thanks in advance,

Colonel Panic.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2019-04-17 08:22:17)

PackRat · 2019-04-17 10:00:40

You will need to find the mouse binding in the rc.xml file that shades/unshades the window (I think ToggleShading is the action). Needs to be changed to something else so that holding the mouse to drag doesn't activate the ToggleShading.

Double click on titlebar is ToggleMaximize by default, I think so don't use that.

Last edited by PackRat (2019-04-17 10:05:15)

Colonel Panic · 2019-04-17 10:16:30

Thanks PackRat! I'll look into it.

Part of the problem for me is that Click, Press and Drag are presented in the rc.xml file as though they are independent actions, but they aren't really; when you move the cursor over a window's titlebar in order to drag it across the desktop, you have to click on it and then press on it as well.

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2019-04-17 10:16:49)

damo · 2019-04-17 13:47:14

Alt-LMouse-Drag moves the shaded window without unshading it. The relevant section in my rc.xml has

      <mousebind button="A-Left" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Left" action="Click">
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Left" action="Drag">
        <action name="Move"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Right" action="Press">
        <action name="Focus"/>
        <action name="Raise"/>
        <action name="Unshade"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Right" action="Drag">
        <action name="Resize"/>
      </mousebind>
      <mousebind button="A-Middle" action="Press">
        <action name="Lower"/>
        <action name="FocusToBottom"/>
        <action name="Unfocus"/>
      </mousebind>

Colonel Panic · 2019-04-17 20:38:18

Thanks Damo, I’m using your code now and it works well . I’m about 95% finished with working on my Openbox configuration file and in particular getting Openbox to do the things I can do in Fluxbox.

Also, is it possible to bind any commands to the KP_0 number pad key in Openbox? I've got it set up in Fluxbox to minimise a window when I press KP_0 and a command key such as Control, but it doesn't seem to work in the same way with Openbox.

Thanks in advance,

CP .

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2019-04-17 20:39:20)

PackRat · 2019-04-17 21:05:30

Also, is it possible to bind any commands to the KP_0 number pad key in Openbox?

Yes, I use the number pad keys for faux tiling in openbox and fluxbox.

    <keybind key="W-KP_7">
      <action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
      <action name="MoveResizeTo">
        <x>0</x>
        <y>0</y>
        <width>50%</width>
        <height>50%</height>
      </action>
    </keybind>

Last edited by PackRat (2019-04-17 21:09:48)

Colonel Panic · 2019-04-17 22:45:01

Thanks for replying. I'm using alaskan hippie's key bindings as shown here;

<!-- Start of Tiling -->
<!-- Poorly strewn together by alaskan-hippie who can be found here: [url]http://crunchbang.org/forums/profile.php?id=9401[/url] -->

<!--Bottom Left-->
	<keybind key="W-A-KP_1">
		<action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
		<action name="MoveResizeTo">
			<width>50%</width>
			<height>50%</height>
		</action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>south</direction></action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>west</direction></action>
	</keybind>
<!--Bottom-->
	<keybind key="W-A-KP_2">
		<action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
		<action name="Maximize"><direction>horizontal</direction></action>
		<action name="MoveResizeTo">
			<height>50%</height>
		</action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>south</direction></action>
	</keybind>
<!--Bottom Right-->	
	<keybind key="W-A-KP_3">
		<action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
		<action name="MoveResizeTo">
			<width>50%</width>
			<height>50%</height>
		</action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>south</direction></action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>east</direction></action>
	</keybind>
<!--Full Left-->
	<keybind key="W-A-KP_4">
		<action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
		<action name="MaximizeVert"/>
		<action name="MoveResizeTo">
			<width>50%</width>
		</action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>west</direction></action>
	</keybind>
<!--Full Screen/Center-->
	<keybind key="W-A-KP_5">
		<action name="Maximize"><direction>both</direction></action>
	</keybind>
<!--Full Right-->
	<keybind key="W-A-KP_6">
		<action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
		<action name="MaximizeVert"/>
		<action name="MoveResizeTo">
			<width>50%</width>
		</action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>east</direction></action>
	</keybind>
<!--Top Left-->
	<keybind key="W-A-KP_7">
		<action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
		<action name="MoveResizeTo">
			<width>50%</width>
			<height>50%</height>
		</action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>north</direction></action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>west</direction></action>
	</keybind>
<!--Full Top-->
	<keybind key="W-A-KP_8">
		<action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
		<action name="Maximize"><direction>horizontal</direction></action>
		<action name="MoveResizeTo">
			<height>50%</height>
		</action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>north</direction></action>
	</keybind>
<!--Top Right-->
	<keybind key="W-A-KP_9">
		<action name="UnmaximizeFull"/>
		<action name="MoveResizeTo">
			<width>50%</width>
			<height>50%</height>
		</action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>north</direction></action>
		<action name="MoveToEdge"><direction>east</direction></action>
	</keybind>
		
<!-- End of tiling -->

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=246

I haven't found a way to get any command to work with the 0 keypad key (KP_0) though, which was the point of my question here.

PackRat · 2019-04-17 23:20:47

This keybinding -

 <keybind key="A-KP_0">
      <action name="Iconify"/>
    </keybind>

Is iconifying the active window on my system. That what you're trying to accomplish?

Colonel Panic · 2019-04-18 19:37:04

Thanks. I'm not sure what I did wrong the first time, maybe one "action" too many in the second line, but all's well that ends well and it's working now (I'm using W-A-KP_0 to iconify the window).

I'm very much still learning my way around Openbox but already I'm impressed by how configurable it is. It seems to offer a good balance between configurability, on the one hand, and yet not having so many options that you get lost in them all and get stuck (as I did with fvwm more than once in a different distro).

Last edited by Colonel Panic (2019-04-18 23:11:58)

PackRat · 2019-04-18 20:55:35

openbox actions

ohnonot · 2019-04-19 05:25:43

openbox xml parsing errors are famously non-descript - usually it's just "XML parsing error on line 1237" where line 1237 is the end of the file. good luck hunting that down.
I hope you have syntax highlighting enabled in your editor, without it editing XML is a real pita.

but other than that I (and most Openbox users) totally agree:

Colonel Panic wrote:

Openbox ... I'm impressed by how configurable it is. It seems to offer a good balance between configurability, on the one hand, and yet not having so many options that you get lost in them all and get stuck.

QFT!

Last edited by ohnonot (2019-04-22 04:35:37)

Colonel Panic · 2019-04-21 14:33:07

PackRat wrote:

openbox actions

Here's another good webpage about Openbox;

https://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/

DeepDayze · 2019-04-21 16:47:43

Colonel Panic wrote:

PackRat wrote:
openbox actions
Here's another good webpage about Openbox;
https://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/

That's for an older version of Openbox but the material is still very relevant. Multihead support is better with OB than with Fluxbox IMO.

hhh · 2019-04-21 17:58:47

Colonel Panic wrote:

PackRat wrote:
openbox actions
Here's another good webpage about Openbox;
https://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/

Pretty much considered the Definitive Guide, it's been online... what, ten years or more? -edit- Since 2008 at least. /edit

Obligatory Arch Wiki link to OB...

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/openbox

Last edited by hhh (2019-04-21 18:03:13)

damo · 2019-04-22 16:54:26

^ Sheesh, does no-one ever look at the "Help & Resources" section in the main menu?

Lots of links in the Openbox section, driven by bl-help-pipemenu

menuSubmenu 'OpenboxWWW' 'Openbox'
    menuSubmenu 'ObWWW' 'Openbox Website'
        menuItem 'Openbox Homepage' 'x-www-browser "http://openbox.org/"'
        menuItem 'Openbox Getting Started' 'x-www-browser "http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Getting_started"'
        menuItem 'Openbox Documentation' 'x-www-browser "http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Contents"'
        menuItem 'Openbox FAQs' 'x-www-browser "http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:FAQ"'
    menuSubmenuEnd
    menuItem 'ArchWiki Openbox Guide' 'x-www-browser "http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox"'
    menuItem 'Debian Wiki Openbox Guide' 'x-www-browser "https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox"'
    menuItem 'Urukramas Openbox Guide' 'x-www-browser "https://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-faq/"'
menuSubmenuEnd

#1 2019-04-17 08:11:45

Dragging shaded windows in Openbox

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