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#1 2019-04-07 06:05:19

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Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

I removed leafpad from m lithium setup today to test a keyboard shortcut on KDE and when I went to reinstall it I discovered it wasn't there.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=913765

Oh well, mousepad is still available and is slightly more feature-rich (tabs, for one thing).

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#2 2019-04-07 06:12:56

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

hhh wrote:

I removed leafpad from m lithium setup today to test a keyboard shortcut on KDE and when I went to reinstall it I discovered it wasn't there.

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=913765

Oh well, mousepad is still available and is slightly more feature-rich (tabs, for one thing).

Are we not sticking with Geany?


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#3 2019-04-07 16:30:13

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

We are. However, IIRC leafpad is one of the apps that are available OOTB in bl-alternaives to be set as the default text editor. That will have to be updated.

Also, it was my favorite text editor and I am sad. Waaa.

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#4 2019-04-07 18:52:53

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

Mousepad is not bad so why not replace leafpad with Mousepad?


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#5 2019-04-08 01:44:26

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

Mousepad's almost the same, and has a couple of improvements over leafpad, but it also - at least in Stretch - had a couple of annoyances that made me return to Leafpad. Handling of the clipboard was one, and I think the search function was less congenial... forget now.


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#6 2019-04-10 07:07:01

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

i don't like these simplistic gui text editors. they always remind me of notepad, the original. :shudder:
it makes me sad, having to edit config files with sth like that.
geany is usually the first thing i install on a new install, even on our work computer.
or i rather go cli + nano.

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#7 2019-04-10 07:21:35

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

ohnonot wrote:

i don't like these simplistic gui text editors. they always remind me of notepad, the original.

Precisely why I liked it, Leafpad was Notepad for Linux. I liked the simplicity. For most things, I don't need tabs, I don't need syntax highlights or code colors, I need a window where I can read the text. There are many full-featured editors these days, but there are very few minimalist GUI ones, the simple ones tend to be cli. To each his own.

For anything serious these days, I use Kate.

https://packages.debian.org/buster/kate

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#8 2019-04-10 08:59:49

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

hhh wrote:

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For anything serious these days, I use Kate.

One thing Kate doesn't do, AFAICT, is to save backups with time-stamps. With Geany, there's a plugin, available by default, to create a time-stamped backup each time a file is edited. Like this:
animated-gif.mkd.2019-03-10-17-29-59
animated-gif.mkd.2019-03-22-17-37-23
animated-gif.mkd.2019-03-22-17-38-58


Using the Openbox (3.5.2) session of Lubuntu 14.04 LTS but very interested in BL :)

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#9 2019-04-10 09:56:14

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

vasa1 wrote:

One thing Kate doesn't do, AFAICT, is to save backups with time-stamps.

https://github.com/briandonovan/Kate-sc … e-stamping

I haven't tested it (Timestamps? I was using leafpad!) I'm guessing the path in debian is /usr/share/katepart5/script/

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#10 2019-04-10 10:02:58

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

Leafpad tarball compiles just fine on Stretch btw (assuming it will do so also in Buster).

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#11 2019-04-10 10:23:05

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

Kate requires a bunch of KDE, perhaps sticking to Gedit wouldn't be too bad. Geany and Kate are more like functionality overload (nothing bad, I would ship neovim-qt, but: causal user).

Kate has KDE/Qt save/load dialogs and maybe don't share places/location bookmarks/whatever it is called these days with GTK3 applications.

From a cursory inspection (don't actually use these), a IMO good preference order would be mousepad > gedit > geany > kate as the default GUI editor.

Does gedit even have better and automatic syntax highlighting detection nowadays?

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#12 2019-04-10 10:44:36

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gedit is a really solid editor from what I understand (hating gnome shell these days, loving plasma), but geany is still plenty feature-rich enough to be our default, and we shouldn't change it IMO. We'll just piss off the ol' skoolers if we do.

Unless we finally ditch Terminator, then I'm all for it. But that will be a cold day in hell, apparently.

I wasn't suggesting Kate, though I like it. Man, so many GUI editors just in the debian repos...

https://packages.debian.org/buster/gedit

https://packages.debian.org/buster/geany

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/pyroom

https://packages.debian.org/buster/scite

https://packages.debian.org/buster/kwrite

https://packages.debian.org/buster/kate

https://packages.debian.org/buster/mousepad

https://packages.debian.org/buster/vim-gtk3

https://packages.debian.org/buster/jedit

https://packages.debian.org/buster/pluma

https://packages.debian.org/buster/tea

https://packages.debian.org/buster/emacs-gtk

https://packages.debian.org/buster/jupp

https://packages.debian.org/buster/vim-gtk

https://packages.debian.org/buster/kephra

I should stop before I go insane.

Too late.

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#13 2019-04-10 11:13:16

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

earlybird wrote:

IMO good preference order would be mousepad > gedit > geany > kate

In all seriousness, I agree with this and I no longer want to worry about the people who don't want change. We have a derivative, let's spin it. As long as we provide the old resources, it's all configurable, right?

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#14 2019-04-10 11:51:31

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

hhh wrote:
ohnonot wrote:

i don't like these simplistic gui text editors. they always remind me of notepad, the original.

Precisely why I liked it, Leafpad was Notepad for Linux. I liked the simplicity. For most things, I don't need tabs, I don't need syntax highlights or code colors, I need a window where I can read the text. There are many full-featured editors these days, but there are very few minimalist GUI ones, the simple ones tend to be cli. To each his own.

For anything serious these days, I use Kate.

https://packages.debian.org/buster/kate

Is notepadqq in the Debian repos?

Medit is another good gui text editor. On par with gedit but doesn't pull in any gnome packages; needs a couple of python packages. Hasn't seen much development the past few years. May soon go the way of leafpad for some of the same reasons.


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#15 2019-04-10 15:18:45

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

hhh wrote:

Precisely why I liked it, Leafpad was Notepad for Linux. I liked the simplicity. For most things, I don't need tabs, I don't need syntax highlights or code colors, I need a window where I can read the text.

Been there.. sometimes geany isn't the notepad that you want when you have scribble some up or read something quick.

There is no doubt that it is a lot easier to edit my conf files (when I have to) on geany. Anyway I have installed mousepad now and taking a testride. There are no line number and no syntax highlighting out of the box. On the other hand I have SublimeText for some serious conf editing.

Mousepad does have the tabbing system. But if I am not opening another file through File>Open, it opens in a new windows.

hhh wrote:
earlybird wrote:

IMO good preference order would be mousepad > gedit > geany > kate

In all seriousness, I agree with this and I no longer want to worry about the people who don't want change. We have a derivative, let's spin it. As long as we provide the old resources, it's all configurable, right?

I think so too.


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#16 2019-04-10 16:03:02

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#17 2019-04-11 15:55:31

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

I am loving mousepad. After testing it for a day, I realize that it pretty much has what I need. Color scheme, line numbers, file name in title bar etc... I was just wondering if there is a way to set it to open a new file in another tab when opened through file browser or openbox main menu.


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#18 2019-05-15 15:19:47

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Re: Leafpad has been removed from sid and buster.

Put this here; don't really want to start a new thread about it.

Just found out about FeatherPad QT text editor

Quick test first impression, on a par with mousepad or medit as far as functionality goes. QT application though so kind of fugly on my gtk3 system; might be able to fix that.

screen-import-Wednesday_1557933368.th.png

Not available in Debian Stable; didn't check Testing or Sid.


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