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A few Manjaro folks have been chatting about Netrunner, so I thought I'd give it a spin in VB on both my PCs. Unfortunately, the ISO weighs in at 2.1 GB and runs ooooohhhhhhhh-sooooooooooo-slooooooooooooooooooowlyon my aging iMac. It's not much faster on my newer laptop. Well, so much for that. I haven't played with Debian for a while and am downloading that as I type.
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Netrunner uses KDE, IIRC. You need to tweak it to make it fast. I don't remember it slow, but not specially snappy either.
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Installed CentOS 5. This is not the future of Linux.
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@ Snap: Yes, I know that Netrunner uses KDE and I tweaked the RAM before installing it in VB. It was still too slow for my taste. Am now running Debian with a cinnamon DE, which zips along fine.
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I have read a few comments regarding Manjaro, and also, Fluxbox, so I gave it a quick spin Friday night. Manjaro Fluxbox 15.10.
Impressive Menu options allow Non-free drivers on the first install selection. I need these drivers on some of my oldest hardware, so that was nice.
Lightweight in general and uses a Pale Moon Web Browser, something I never used before.
Fluxbox looks and feels just like Openbox so that was also nice. Overall good!
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I just tried the latest Ubuntu 15.04 the other day from a live USB on my work OptiPlex.
I was rather impressed. Other than a lack of being able to plays ome video's out of the box, it was snappy and stupidly easy to use. I had to google nothing. I can totally see why this would be a good grandma OS.
That being said, I'm still using BL.
The meaning of life is to just be alive. It is so plain and so obvious
and so simple. And yet everybody rushes aroound in a great panic
as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.
- Alan Watts
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You might try this out, http://linuxvillage.org/en/telechargements/ , a Openbox, Ubuntu based distro created by Melodie, a French woman. Very snappy!
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The new openSUSE Leap has been very flaky for me. Sometimes it boots up and runs great. Other times, with no changes, it boots to a black screen where I can't do anything else. One night, it booted to the black screen about five times, and I was sure I was going to have to give up on it. A couple of days later, I tried it to see if I could do any troubleshooting, and everything came up as if nothing had ever been wrong. Very confusing.
So, I'm starting to think about Fedora 23 Gnome as my secondary system, but IDK.
Tim
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CRUX 3.2 is out
“Et ignotas animum dimittit in artes.” — Ovid, Metamorphoses, VIII., 18.
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@Ratcheer: I ran Fedora Gnome for a spell earlier this year and liked it. Unfortunately, I can no longer remember why I switched ....
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I was using Manjaro for awhile after attempting unsuccessfully to install Mageia. The older hardware I am using was too slow with the Manjaro KDE desktop. Switched it out for a dual boot of lubuntu (for ease of use with school work) and BL. Working excellently so far.
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Well, all of a sudden, openSUSE Leap is running just fine, again. I will stick with it as long as it's reasonably (heh heh) reliable, because I already have a bunch of stuff set up to my liking. KDE 5 is pretty nice, too.
Tim
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I like openSuSE as well. I use it on my laptop most of the time.
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I'm pretty faithful and stay close to home, my days of straying are over..
BunsenLabs w/ Openbox & Pekwm.. For that sporty feel.
Mint 17.2 Rafaela w/ Cinnamon & Openbox.. For the luxury cruise with the top down.
They both are simply beautiful in their own way and actually, well.. Work.
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That's why they call it the present"
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@Panda Mint is pretty nice if I'm being honest. I support a handful of people who are running it so last night before I went to sleep I set up 2 VMs with the 17.3 beta releases. One with Mate and one with Cinnamon.
I'll be playing with those for a few days to give them a good thrashing. So far they are living up to the usual Mint standards. Very nice.
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empty@OpenBSD ~ % uname -a
OpenBSD OpenBSD 5.8 GENERIC.MP#1649 amd64
Oh yeah
What a brilliant operating system -- it's all so simple.
For example: to get my wireless connection working, I simply added 3 lines to /etc/hostname.iwn0
nwid <SSID>
wpakey <super secret pasword>
dhcp
That's it.
Beautiful
EDIT: rc.conf FTW!
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For example: to get my wireless connection working, I simply added 3 lines to /etc/hostname.iwn0
nwid <SSID> wpakey <super secret pasword> dhcp
That's it.
Beautiful
Bollocks
How's that different from the following (in Debian, in /etc/network/interfaces):
iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wpa-ssid SSID
wpa-psk <super secret pasword>
However, I can relate to this below (being FreeBSD user since 1995 ... or 1994, can't really remember):
EDIT: rc.conf FTW!
Postpone all your duties; if you die, you won't have to do them ..
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empty@OpenBSD ~ % uname -a OpenBSD OpenBSD 5.8 GENERIC.MP#1649 amd64
Oh yeah
What a brilliant operating system -- it's all so simple.
For example: to get my wireless connection working, I simply added 3 lines to /etc/hostname.iwn0
nwid <SSID> wpakey <super secret pasword> dhcp
That's it.
Beautiful
EDIT: rc.conf FTW!
I'm sure going to try this one day. Maybe, you'd write a how-to on OpenBSD, HoaS?
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Maybe, you'd write a how-to on OpenBSD, HoaS?
No need for that, the on-system documentation is absolutely first-rate
For anything not covered by the superbly detailed and well written man pages, see the FAQ:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/index.html
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Bollocks
I beg your pardon?
How's that different from the following (in Debian, in /etc/network/interfaces):
iface wlan0 inet dhcp wpa-ssid SSID wpa-psk <super secret pasword>
OK, fair point but I do find the OpenBSD version that bit easier.
Another (better) example is doas(1), OpenBSD's `sudo` replacement.
Here is my complete configuration file for doas(1):
# /etc/doas.conf
permit keepenv empty as root
I think I will take that over /etc/sudoers any day of the week
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ostrolek wrote:Maybe, you'd write a how-to on OpenBSD, HoaS?
No need for that, the on-system documentation is absolutely first-rate
For anything not covered by the superbly detailed and well written man pages, see the FAQ:
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/index.html
Thanks for the link.
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iMBeCil wrote:Bollocks
I beg your pardon?
Bollocks - yet another word I have happily (once more) absorbed watching reruns of an excellent TV series Cracker.
It was related to relation between my comment 'Debian ...' against your comment 'Beautiful' ... hm ...
Postpone all your duties; if you die, you won't have to do them ..
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@Anaconda,
I haven't yet played with 17.3 but from what I've read, looks like many improvements (Update man. and task bar goodies). When I get a little extra time, I'll have to grab a copy and give it a spin.
“Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery and today a gift...
That's why they call it the present"
― Master Oogway
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I took a look at the Netrunner distro that's mentioned earlier in this thread. It looks pretty nice.
Someone else also mentioned Mint. That was my goto distro for years and prior to that it was SuSE. I can highly recommend Mint to people who want a 'buntu derivitive without Unity. I'm paartial to KDE myself. Now if there was an OpenBox Mint, that might be sorely tempting to try out.
The meaning of life is to just be alive. It is so plain and so obvious
and so simple. And yet everybody rushes aroound in a great panic
as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.
- Alan Watts
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After reading first 2 pages, I installed VB on my desktop PC and started testing again. I'm a happy Elementary OS user for two years now, but always curious about other Debian-based distros. Now testing Fedora with gnome and the Mint flavours.
Also, installed Simplice on my old netbook after reading your good words. Of course, BL has always a partition on my netbook
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