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#1 2015-11-07 10:34:47

Temetka
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compiz?

I love BL RC1. But can I add compiz or some equivalent to it?

Just curious.


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#2 2015-11-07 10:55:03

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Re: compiz?

You could try forwardporting it from  oldoldstable but I don't rate your chances...
https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/compiz

Whatever you do, *do not* use this moronic method:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-inst … aun-marolf

It will probably wreck your system.

What you could try is using the PPA from that link to pull down the source code and compile it locally, as outlined here:
https://wiki.debian.org/CreatePackageFromPPA

Even then, I would recommend trying it out in a VM first.

EDIT: What exactly do you want from compiz?

Most of the features are supported by KDE

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#3 2015-11-07 11:42:06

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Re: compiz?

Yeah, I just wanted some cool *nixxy effects because reasons.

I installed KDE.

So I guess this is solved. Whether I stay with KDE is another thing all together.


The meaning of life is to just be alive. It is so plain and so obvious
    and so simple. And yet everybody rushes aroound in a great panic
             as if it were necessary to achieve something beyond themselves.
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#4 2015-11-07 12:52:52

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Re: compiz?

^ Eye candy and effects of Kwin without KDE on Xfce, https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 5786#p5786
If you want to install Compiz, have a look here http://www.compiz.org/

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#5 2015-11-07 15:15:21

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Re: compiz?

Warning: link infested post ahead.

Compiz was removed from Debian something like 2 years ago (I assume because it was being maintained). I had instructions for using it on wheezy by installing it from a Debian snapshot archive but those instructions certainly won't work now. I used it a lot in combo with xfce...
http://s28.postimg.org/p4suj3qcd/Screen … _48_PM.png
http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=80867

I dearly love compiz and miss it greatly (gawd, look at those gorgeously aliased rounded corners), but Emerald shadows were always buggy as hell. Compiz .8 was stable, I heard nothing but complaints about .9. Grabbing it from a PPA or Ubuntu or Mint is going to be a major, major PITA because of all the packages you'll have to backport, so I can't recommend that.

The easiest way to have fun with Compiz is to use Linux Mint Rebecca XFCE, it includes Compiz as an alternative WM. I think Manjaro has also kept it alive, and both .8 and .9 are still available from the Arch AUR (along with a wiki page outlining a buttload of bugs).

Another alternative is to experiment with a fork named fusilli...
https://github.com/noodlylight/fusilli

I was using fusilli back in January and February of this year before my netbook died (it seems a lot longer ago) and helped the developer iron out some bugs. I haven't messed with it since, and he hadn't done any fixes to Emerald at the time. It looked great with Marco decorations, but then I started working on BL and that was that. It looks like he's letting this project go, the last commit was in June.

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#6 2015-11-07 19:57:27

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Re: compiz?

^ I liked Compiz too, until I found a way to install Kwin in Xfce without all those KDE dependencies. Emerald is so Vista like, but I like it.
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 6975#p6975
With the Emarald look and Vista like icons.

Would try this fusilli too.

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#7 2015-11-07 22:49:50

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Re: compiz?

Interesting using KWIN in XFCE.

I'm quite good with KDE as a whole though. Yes, I know it adds some bloat but IMO it doesn't matter. My linux partition on this SSD is 64GB of which 11 is used for OpenBox, XFCE (don't like), KDE and a few apps. I'm totally fine with that. I don't have much in my home folders (pics, vids, etc.) as I keep most if it on my 180GB Windows partition.

I do have another SSD I am going to put in my laptop and try an experiment. I want to see how productive I can be with Linux as my primary OS and running Windows in a VM. I need Windows for a few requirements, the 2 biggest are office and CentraStage so I can remote into my clients servers. CentraStage doesn't make a linux agent, or I'd just run Office in Wine and move on with my life. But that's a topic for a different thread.

Maybe I'll get to my experiment this weekend, maybe not. I have some honey work to do from she who must be obeyed. wink


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#8 2017-04-08 11:46:36

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Re: compiz?

Hello, just reviving a old treat and want to ask, if threre is any chance to install compiz 0.9.13.1 on BL? Compton is not an option because of tearing and I have fiddled 2 days with compton and it's options.

Maybe installing it from source will be a option?

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#9 2017-04-08 11:50:36

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Re: compiz?

Zubcho wrote:

Hello, just reviving a old treat and want to ask, if threre is any chance to install compiz 0.9.13.1 on BL? Compton is not an option because of tearing and I have fiddled 2 days with compton and it's options.

Maybe installing it from source will be a option?

You can backport the package from testing. Go to packages.debian.org, download the package source, then use dpkg-buildpackage to build the package for jessie locally. There are guides available on how to do it.

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#10 2017-04-08 14:27:07

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Re: compiz?

^ I just noticed compiz had returned to testing/unstable and was playing with it a few days ago. It's still quite buggy, I was getting black rectangles where menus were when I closed them and the occasional freeze.

@Zubcho, if compton isn't playing nicely with your graphics, I doubt compiz will. Just guessing, though. and I assume you realize that compton provides compositing with any window manager, while compiz is a window manager with it's own compositing.

Maybe try xfce (xfwm4) or mate (marco)? They both have simple compositing.

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#11 2017-04-08 14:49:34

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Re: compiz?

Huh, look at that. Compiz .8 for jessie and stretch, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!...
http://compiz-debian.tuxfamily.org/

Holy crap, they included Emerald as well. There goes my next day off.

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#12 2017-04-08 17:14:33

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Re: compiz?

^At own risk? OK! Playing with it on Jessie + XFCE right now. My old love, still goodlooking, but surely looks overweight with all its emeralds compared to undecorated, manually tiled Openbox. Moves surprisingly smoothly, though.

I know it's not going to last in daily use, but it'll be once again fun to surprise innocent youngsters by "accidentally" showing off wobbly fiery effects.

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#13 2017-04-26 17:30:57

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Re: compiz?

hhh wrote:

Huh, look at that. Compiz .8 for jessie and stretch, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!...
http://compiz-debian.tuxfamily.org/

Holy crap, they included Emerald as well. There goes my next day off.

Did try to install this, but with no luck. Went to mint 18 XFCE with compiz and finally there is no tearing in chromium.

Note to all users, I had problem with chrome/chromium youtube videos tearing, and I didn't test this, but after restarting the gpu acceleration in chrome all is OK. I didn't test this with compton but will do it.

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