[OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

johnraff · 2018-03-18 09:49:42

Hi alef, thanks for the feedback!

alef wrote:

the following icon themes seem to contain exactly the same icons: Paper, Paper-Bunsen and Paper-Mono-Dark.

It's only a subset of those icons that is changed - especially, Paper-Bunsen replaces only a very few at the moment, though more might be added if any problems come up with the default icons.

bl-exit styling... Hope it's possible to customize its look.
Edit: The problem with bl-exit is not just the styling, but rather the usability. Shortcut keys cannot be discovered anymore (Alt-P to Power Off), whereas in current version of BunsenLabs the gtk-style makes it possible and obvious.

It is possible to customize bl-exit. Copy /etc/bl-exit to ~/.config and have a look at bl-exitrc

A new version is in the pipeline, though, which will have different configuration - and visible keyboard shortcuts - so if you could wait a bit for the new bunsen-exit package it should clear things up.

unklar · 2018-03-18 10:03:40

@johnraff,
@HoaS,

I drive in with this beautiful alpha4 regularly

apt dist-upgrade

As you can see, the GRUB is my main bootloader.

Will I be up to this level at the time of release or, don't you recommend this?

~$ inxi -r
Repos:     Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
           deb https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
           deb https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian stable-updates main contrib non-free
           deb https://cdn-aws.deb.debian.org/debian-security stable/updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bunsen.list
           deb https://kelaino.bunsenlabs.org/~johnraff/debian helium main

johnraff · 2018-03-18 11:16:59

^Sorry, I don't quite understand - recommend what?

brontosaurusrex · 2018-03-18 13:48:02

alpha6 in vbox

a. Is geany supposed to be that 'white'?
b. screenfetch seems to have something missing.
c. xfce power manager shows in tint2 tray for no particular reason (and It seems to have tray disabled).
d. in /usr/share/applications/bl-www-browser.desktop, Icon=browser might be a better choice?

Last edited by brontosaurusrex (2018-03-18 14:25:54)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-18 14:15:58

brontosaurusrex wrote:

screenfetch seems to have something missing

Unfortunately the stretch version lacks my commits that add BunsenLabs support (I was too slow, sorry) so you will have to install our backported version instead:

http://eu.pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/poo … -1_all.deb

xfce power manager shows in tint2 tray for no particular reason (and It seems to have tray disabled).

Yes, it's a strange one that — the "show in tray" option is un-checked by default but the icon does show

To get the icon to disappear the checkbox must be clicked on twice, which isn't ideal.

I will look into this if I have a moment, thanks for reminding me.

redrobo66 · 2018-03-18 15:26:13

Been running the alpha for a week now on my Thinkpad X220 and really enjoying it.
Love the Bunsenlabs look and feel but haven't been able to use the current stable version as some of my software packages wouldn't work with Jessie.
Now everything works great and the new version looks very sharp.
Two applications in particular which wouldn't work previously were Spotify and WPS Office (both .deb files from the developer own sites). I know....non free software but WPS plays better with MS Office files and I have to use them.

Have to say this alpha is more stable and polished than most final releases!

Really like the the theme and the Paper icon set.
My preferred themiing for Openbox has been the Archlabs default which is also based on the Paper icons. I absolutely love their dark theme having applied this to my Bunsen installation, including their Conky with some changes to reflect the Bunsen keybindings. Looks great - a cheeky request but perhaps you could include the Archlabs theme? - it really is slick and sharp.

Great work everyone.

Rob

nederpils · 2018-03-18 15:43:32

Hi

I have been playing with the Alpha 6 iso 64bit for a couple of days now.

Added a few applications by myself. All is fine except ...

What worries me currently are "streaks" whilst scrolling either in Firefox and/or Chromium. It's still my lenovo T510 which has never shown before such a behaviour ...

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-18 15:49:07

nederpils wrote:

What worries me currently are "streaks" whilst scrolling either in Firefox and/or Chromium. It's still my lenovo T510 which has never shown before such a behaviour ...

That is because we have disabled the compositor's handling of vsync (it can cause problems with some hardware), to restore the old behaviour edit the file at ~/.config/compton.conf and uncomment the "backend = glx" line:

https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-co … .conf#L198

Then restart the compositor (there is a menu entry for this).

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-18 15:52:25

redrobo66 wrote:

perhaps you could include the Archlabs theme? - it really is slick and sharp.

Yes, it is a very nice theme

We could certainly look at adding that theme to our package, we will be using a "rolling release" paradigm for the BusenLabs packages from Helium onwards so such things can always be added at a later date.

(I don't think we should delay the release for themes because of this reason.)

EDIT: the only caveat being that ArchLabs will be basing that theme on a newer GTK3 version than we use so I would probably have to fork it for BunsenLabs.

EDIT2: this is of course presuming that the good folks over at ArchLabs don't mind us stealing their stuff — I will be sure to submit an official request before adding anything of theirs to our package.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2018-03-18 15:54:47)

redrobo66 · 2018-03-18 15:56:40

Intel integrated graphics as found on most Lenovo machines have hardware v sync built into the GPU but a lot of distributions don't enable it by default.
This is preferable to a software solution. I always add the following file to the xorg.conf.d folder:

Section "Device"
Identifier "Intel Graphics"
Driver "intel"
Option "TearFree" "true"
EndSection

That will cure any screen tearing issues in most cases and you don't need to enable V Sync in the compositor.

Last edited by redrobo66 (2018-03-18 15:58:22)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-18 16:00:25

redrobo66 wrote:

Intel integrated graphics as found on most Lenovo machines have hardware v sync built into the GPU but a lot of distributions don't enable it by default.
This is preferable to a software solution.

^ +1, that is a better method

EDIT: but it will break the system if xserver-xorg-video-intel is removed (as recommeded by Debian).

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2018-03-18 16:02:14)

redrobo66 · 2018-03-18 16:26:04

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

EDIT2: this is of course presuming that the good folks over at ArchLabs don't mind us stealing their stuff — I will be sure to submit an official request before adding anything of theirs to our package.

Yes indeed. I have a feeling the theme was developed by Eric Dubois who is now at Arco

Here's a quick pic with the adjusted Conky. Tint2 usually autohides:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/trebor1966/40880817911/

Mod Note: oversized image replaced with URL, please limit images to ~250x250px, thanks!
-HoaS

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2018-03-18 17:41:29)

batard · 2018-03-18 22:02:25

This is preferable to a software solution. I always add the following file to the xorg.conf.d folde

can anybody explain where i can find this folder ?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-18 22:06:49

^ You need to make it yourself:

sudo mkdir -p /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d

Then create a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf with the posted content

alef · 2018-03-18 22:54:38

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

alef wrote:
Text install failed at "installing packages" step without giving much details about what was arong. I suspect this was caused by a disk too small (used auto partitioning).
It is possible to switch to the log screen with <Ctrl>+<Alt>+F4 — this will show all the output from the commands run by the installer and so may give you some clues as to what went wrong (if you ever try this again).
alef wrote:
Directories names inside home directory would really be better with their first letter in small-case by default, for more convenient use from the terminal.
That is handled by the xdg-user-dirs pack[a]ge[...]

Thanks for these tips, good to know

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

alef wrote:
Icon theme is pretty off though
Would you care to be more specific? What exactly is "off" about the icons?

Well, it's a small thing, really, and more likely personal preference. Perhaps also the rendering differs based on screen resolution. In my VM, the bl-exit icons are super big (circa three times the height of the icons in tint2). Bold, much bolder than the "bunsenLabs" text in the wallpaper. I'll get used to it anyway, or customize as it has been hinted in another message.

Then, icon-only without text is not too user-friendly: one may interpret the circled X button as a power off, for instance. fortunately, the text is shown on hover. But still, that's five buttons in total, each of them requiring guess/interpretation about their meaning.

johnraff wrote:

It is possible to customize bl-exit. Copy /etc/bl-exit to ~/.config and have a look at bl-exitrc

Thanks.

johnraff · 2018-03-19 02:32:49

brontosaurusrex wrote:

Is geany supposed to be that 'white'?

Er, not particularly "meant" to be - that's just Geany's default colourscheme. You can try View>Change Color Scheme but to get any choice you need to put some *.conf files in ~/.config/geany/colorschemes. For example, from here: https://github.com/geany/geany-themes/

If someone felt like writing geany themes that matched the BunsenLabs GTK/openbox themes, we could ship them in a future upgrade of bunsen-themes.

in /usr/share/applications/bl-www-browser.desktop, Icon=browser might be a better choice?

Good question. That was also tried at one point, but applications-internet looked better in some icon themes...

johnraff · 2018-03-19 07:09:59

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

johnraff wrote:
I was asking about the unwanted line in /etc/default/grub:
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="initrd=/install/initrd.gz"
^ I can confirm that this also appears in amd64 systems, the installer even instructs the user to add it as a kernel parameter to get the system booting.

Yes, I even found it in a Deuterium install! When did the installer instruct the user to add it though? I don't recall anything like that.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-19 07:34:34

johnraff wrote:

When did the installer instruct the user to add it though? I don't recall anything like that.

If the user decides not to install GRUB to the disk (as I did) then the installer gives a brief summary of the boot parameters required and the initrd= line was included in that.

johnraff · 2018-03-19 08:06:10

^Hmm... thanks. Trying to get to the bottom of this, but it doesn't look easy. My netinstalls all look OK but it seems to be coming from d-i somehow.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-03-19 08:15:23

I will have to check the Debian ISO image.

My Debian box doesn't have this but I installed it with debootstrap (I think) and I don't use grub-mkconfig anyway.

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