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#101 2018-03-09 13:24:55

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

  Would you like to install Dropbox? [y/N]
  Fetching Dropbox frontend dropbox.py...
--2018-03-08 10:58:33--  https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/dropbox.py
Resolving www.dropbox.com (www.dropbox.com)... 162.125.4.1, 2620:100:6019:1::a27d:401
Connecting to www.dropbox.com (www.dropbox.com)|162.125.4.1|:443... connected.
ERROR: The certificate of ‘www.dropbox.com’ is not trusted.
ERROR: The certificate of ‘www.dropbox.com’ hasn't got a known issuer.
/usr/bin/bl-welcome: dropbox.py download failed.
/usr/bin/bl-welcome: failed to fetch dropbox.py
  Failed to fetch dropbox.py
  Something went wrong.
  Going to next page...

Looks like it's just a network issue on my end. The network at my work here has all kinds of proxy caching and SSL interception and different types of nonsense going on.

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#102 2018-03-09 21:55:03

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

I assume that just updating through "apt update"/"apt upgrade"/"apt dist-upgrade" we are getting to the latest Alpha version. Am I right?


3D or not 3D, that is not anymore the question.

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#103 2018-03-10 00:03:35

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

hello
i made 2 alpha6 hard installs on a lenovo thinkcenter intel core i7 and really love it ,it make me fill like i'm back home .
i found it very easy to use ( i'm not an experienced user)
so congratulations to devs !!
i mainly installed computer assisted music and games stuffs and experienced 2 issues :
1/ jaaa ( spectrumm analysis softwere) worked good on first install and did not on second install ( don't know why )
2/ it seems that my graphic card didn't work well in both case ( i didn t had such issues whith debian strech on the same system .

root@batard5test:/home/seb# lspci -v | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
root@batard5test:/home/seb# apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel
xserver-xorg-video-intel:
  Installé : 2:2.99.917+git20161206-1
  Candidat : 2:2.99.917+git20161206-1
 Table de version :
 *** 2:2.99.917+git20161206-1 500
        500 https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
root@batard5test:/home/seb# 

should i post it in bug reports ?

edit: a saw this pakage installed in synaptic :i-965-va driver so it seems i have 2 drivers installed can it be the problem ?

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#104 2018-03-10 11:39:53

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
johnraff wrote:

We could add libreoffice-gnome to the dependencies of bunsen-meta-libreoffice, so that menu item would bring it in. It's a small package.

Any opinions?

+1

+1

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#105 2018-03-10 11:44:37

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

jesito wrote:

I assume that just updating through "apt update"/"apt upgrade"/"apt dist-upgrade" we are getting to the latest Alpha version. Am I right?

Not quite.

The changes will be provided as new bl-* packages and these will modify the system-wide configuration but if you already have a normal user then the changes will *not* be applied to $HOME.

To test the new configuration files, compare the contents of $HOME with /usr/share/bunsen/skel/, paying particular attention to /usr/share/bunsen/skel/.config/ (comparing with ~/.config/) — this contains the configuration for openbox, tint2, compton, conky and all the other desktop stuff.


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#106 2018-03-10 11:45:59

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

batard wrote:

my graphic card didn't work well in both case ( i didn t had such issues whith debian strech on the same system .

Try removing the Intel DDX driver, it is no longer recommended in stretch:

sudo apt purge xserver-xorg-video-intel

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#107 2018-03-10 13:27:47

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Hello the new theme looks great (colors,icons, fonts, all)

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#108 2018-03-10 13:46:15

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

tbqhmhsfamilam wrote:

Hello the new theme looks great (colors,icons, fonts, all)


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#109 2018-03-10 17:43:45

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Try removing the Intel DDX driver, it is no longer recommended in stretch:

sudo apt purge xserver-xorg-video-intel

things remain the same .
i wonder what strech have that alpha6 does'nt .

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#110 2018-03-10 17:46:09

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

batard wrote:

things remain the same

What is the actual issue you are having?

Can you describe it please.

The compositor can cause problems:

pkill compton # or use the menu option

EDIT: did you reboot after removing the drivers?

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#111 2018-03-10 19:31:25

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

What is the actual issue you are having?

Can you describe it please.

i can watch video normaly but when i try to play a game ( via steam ) the picture is uncomplete rain animation become whites squares ; colors are not exactly the same ,lots of details are missing ,the game is almost unusable .

pkill compton # or use the menu option

EDIT: did you reboot after removing the drivers?

yes i rebooted
pkill compton did'nt change anything
this morning i made a quick install of debian 9 . the games worked fine and i had nothing to do .

apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-intel

had the same result and i-965-va driver was there to .

i'll try to make a dual boot ( althroug i never did it before ) whith debian strech and helium so i can compare .

thank for your help head_on_a_stick

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#112 2018-03-11 19:27:24

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

How much longer we have to wait for final release ?

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#113 2018-03-11 19:35:42

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Pink Unicorn wrote:

How much longer we have to wait for final release ?

Look, I really don't mean to be rude but do you understand that it is quite literally impossible for me to give you a solid answer to that question?

There are still things to be done before the release: bug-testing tends to be a fractal process in that the closer you look the more you find.

Rest assured that we are all working as quickly as possible but please make allowances for the fact that all of the development Team works on this project in their spare time and $REAL_LIFE all too often gets in the way.


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#114 2018-03-12 06:37:25

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

bug-testing tends to be a fractal process in that the closer you look the more you find.

Nice analogy!
Since the alpha isos came out, a number of issues turned up that could preferably have been dealt with earlier in the cycle, but that can't be helped.


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#115 2018-03-12 08:14:07

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

To test the new configuration files, compare the contents of $HOME with /usr/share/bunsen/skel/, paying particular attention to /usr/share/bunsen/skel/.config/ (comparing with ~/.config/) — this contains the configuration for openbox, tint2, compton, conky and all the other desktop stuff.

I find meld quite useful for this kind of job. Easier to start it from a terminal, though, than via the messy file-chooser GUI:
'meld /path/to/dir1 /path/to/dir2'


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#116 2018-03-12 10:11:06

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

I suggest that you make a pun(?) of the final release of the Helium, by releasing the final iso on the April 1st. (If possible, of course.)

monkey  monkey  smile


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#117 2018-03-12 18:01:25

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Hi!

I tried use Helium alpha 5 both i386 and 64 bit isos for advanced text installation.
I made three instalaltions: IBM T42 (786 MB RAM, i386), Dell D630 (amd) and Virtualbox VM (64bit).

I got a nice working environment but noticed some glitches to sort out.

The first thing I noticed was the errors just after booting. in Virtualbox i got this errors:
   mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed: Invalid argument
   umount: can't umount /media: Invalid argument
   mount: mounting /dev/sda on /media failed: Invalid argument
   mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on /media failed: Invalid argument
   umount: can't umount /media: Invalid argument
   mount: mounting /dev/sda1 on /media failed: Invalid argument
   mount: mounting /dev/sda2 on /media failed: Invalid argument
   umount: can't umount /media: Invalid argument
   mount: mounting /dev/sda2 on /media failed: Invalid argument

/dev/sda1 is /, /dev/sda2 is swap.

I chosed "Installation komponents to read från CD":
choose mirror:...
On the two laptops the installer searched the CD and then went on. Did not try to connect to my local reposity server.
The VM tried to communicate with the server but failed. No problem to read in the repos with other installmedia.

The last thing is the grubline:
  [...] initrd=/install/initrd.gz
That must be leftover from the live environmnet.

Bunsenlabs, is a great distro, keep up the good work!


// Regards rbh

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#118 2018-03-12 20:24:37

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^ Thanks for the feedback!

rbh wrote:

On the two laptops the installer searched the CD and then went on

That error is usually seen after an incorrect image transfer with unetbootin being the most likely guilty party.

What method did you use?

the grubline:
  [...] initrd=/install/initrd.gz
That must be leftover from the live environmnet.

That's from /etc/default/grub and I think it may also be present in a stock Debian system (I will check later), it has no effect in an installed system anyway (there is no /install/initrd.gz).


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#119 2018-03-13 00:45:57

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

i'll try to make a dual boot ( althroug i never did it before ) whith debian strech and helium so i can compare

hello
the problem don't comes from graphical driver because both ( stretch and alpha6 ) have the same :mesa dri intel haswell desktop x86/MMX/SSE2   3.0 mesa 13.06

i also found that some packages were missing in alpha6 comparing to stretch :

Xsever_xorg_legacy
vdpau-driver-all
libva-wayland1
libmpx2

i tryed to install them all in alpha6 but it didn't change anything .still no problem in stretch and same issue in alpha6 .

as i said i'm not an advenced user and this problem seems to be out of my litle knowledge.

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#120 2018-03-13 02:12:08

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

slc66 wrote:
tbqhmhsfamilam wrote:

Hello the new theme looks great (colors,icons, fonts, all)


+1

Hey, thanks guys! Still plenty of work to do since I've been very absent for quite a while now. However, we're trying to get this released, theme improvements can come as upgrades later.

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#121 2018-03-13 07:42:51

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

batard wrote:

intel haswell

I have a Haswell laptop, I will test this later.

Thanks for the report!


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#122 2018-03-14 12:55:57

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

rbh wrote:

On the two laptops the installer searched the CD and then went on

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

That error is usually seen after an incorrect image transfer with unetbootin being the most likely guilty party.
What method did you use?

Hmm, I think there was an misunderstanding. The error of not being able to mount sda, is that due to incorect iso-image?
I write the image to usb stick with dd. I didn't verify checksum after downloading thou. Will soon catch a train to Stockholm but in the weekend i can do that and test to write to a new usb-stick. But, I have never seen that message before...

When the two laptops "searched the CD and then went on", was when the installer should have made a connection to my locasl repository. Only the installer during instalation on Virtualbox VM, tried to do that (but hang). Never a problem with Debian isos.


rbh wrote:

the grubline:
  [...] initrd=/install/initrd.gz
That must be leftover from the live environmnet.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

That's from /etc/default/grub and I think it may also be present in a stock Debian system (I will check later), it has no effect in an installed system anyway (there is no /install/initrd.gz).

I think I have seen it before on hydrogen. Not sure. The last year or so, when installing I have used the skript for installing from bare Debian. I have never seen it on an debianinstallation. IT is no vital flaw, and simple to  erase the line in ../default/grubb, but it disturbs me a little bit...

Those three errors, is not vital to fix...


// Regards rbh

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#123 2018-03-14 19:51:25

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Installed Alpha-5/32 and Alpha-6/64 on two different machines without any glitch so far.
Now installing my toolset in both.
(Not installing Dropbox neither Java).

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#124 2018-03-14 20:03:05

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

Installed 32bit version on Dell Latitude week or more ago and it works flawless, also is veeeeeeeeery nice looking smile

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#125 2018-03-14 22:40:40

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Re: [OUTDATED]Please help us test the Helium alpha iso.

rbh wrote:

in Virtualbox i got this errors

VB support is patchy in Helium because Debian dropped the package for the current release, sorry about that.

Did not try to connect to my local reposity server [...] Never a problem with Debian isos

That is perplexing because we are using the upstream Debian installer so they should be the same.

the grubline

Yes, you're right, this must be a vestige of the live environment, I will look into it.


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