Potential Terminator config for Helium-dev

tknomanzr · 2018-02-05 16:43:44

This is the Terminator profile I have been using for Helium-dev. Feel free to use or modify as you see fit.

[global_config]
  dbus = False
  title_inactive_bg_color = "#000000"
  title_transmit_bg_color = "#000000"
[keybindings]
  hide_window = <Shift><Control>a
[layouts]
  [[default]]
    [[[child1]]]
      parent = window0
      type = Terminal
    [[[window0]]]
      parent = ""
      size = 680, 540
      type = Window
[plugins]
[profiles]
  [[default]]
    background_color = "#074e4e"
    background_type = transparent
    color_scheme = custom
    cursor_color = "#d8d8d8"
    font = Monospace 10
    foreground_color = "#7affff"
    palette = "#000000:#cc0000:#4e9a06:#c4a000:#3465a4:#75507b:#06989a:#d3d7cf:#555753:#ef2929:#8ae234:#fce94f:#729fcf:#ad7fa8:#34e2e2:#eeeeec"
    scrollback_infinite = True
    scrollback_lines = 5000
    scrollbar_position = hidden
    show_titlebar = False
    use_system_font = False

martix · 2018-02-05 17:09:55

I tried it, without the beam background though.

How was it in earlier releases - did some of the colors in terminator match the color of the conky fonts?

tknomanzr · 2018-02-05 17:22:53

That's a good point. As you can tell, we have lots of different moving parts here. The current Terminator config will be the Bunsenlabs gray. Here is a screenshot showing my desktop with it running. Note my tint2 config's font for the clock also needs an update. The conky way over to the right is what I have been using. This is a three monitor setup. Moc is using the transparent_background theme.

martix · 2018-02-06 00:16:58

^Jesus, that's a huge screenshot! Which conky font color is that? Is it 678b8b?

I've the impression that the screenshot makes bright fonts a bit darker. I have the same after all:

Transparency seems to be very high and the terminal font is more on the bright side, which is in contrast to the conky font (looks like being more on the slightly darker side). At least these things came to my mind first, but cannot really comment on how good they look with default settings (I really like the conky font color though as it looks great on grey background too).

tknomanzr · 2018-02-06 01:56:48

#678b8b will show up again as the PRELIGHT color in the exit dialog. I will have to confirm the color tomorrow as I am unable to get in front of my desktop at the moment. I really just set it to cyan because that is the color that is used in the grub menu. I then toned down the brightness a few tints. I think Terminator's opacity was 80-90%. Truthfully, this theme looks great with compositing disabled as well.

johnraff · 2018-02-06 05:29:04

That basic idea for the terminator colours looks great I thought, and fitted perfectly with the beam wallpaper.

Nitty gritty details, though:
I think, while #678b8b is beautiful as the default conky, it would be too dull for the terminal text. OTOH that light-cyan might be a little bit too bright?

Personal tastes here of course, but I also found 50% transparency too much, and wound the background_darkness up to 0.65 - just a random figure though. (Usually I turn transparency on windows off anyway.)

Then made the background a bit darker. I tried colour-picking off the beam wallpaper but nothing looked right, so just tweaked the number by hand to #053030.

These settings are totally random, but just a vague idea of what looked better to me - you guys please use your graphics judgement here! I'll set whatever you decide.

    background_color = "#053030"
    background_darkness = 0.65
    background_type = transparent
    color_scheme = custom
    cursor_color = "#d8d8d8"
    font = Monospace 10
    foreground_color = "#7af0f0"

Looked like this:

BTW does that colour palette also need tweaking? What does it actually affect? If it's that green colour of the prompt, I'd have no problem with it being changed...

Last edited by johnraff (2018-02-06 05:32:35)

martix · 2018-02-06 11:13:36

^There is now background_darkness = 0.65

I like that darker background better, it might be easier to work with.

tknomanzr · 2018-02-06 13:24:44

^ That is looking pretty good. The rest of the terminal colors are being inherited from the Tango palette. Those settings are looking quite a bit crisper on the Surface Pro install. I would update the tint2 config to match the clock color to either the conky's text color or Terminator's, also.

martix · 2018-02-06 15:32:45

^If the clock color will be updated, it won't match the color of the systray icons. I was thinking about mentioning it too, but I'm not sure how it would fit to the rest of the panel.

tknomanzr · 2018-02-06 16:11:25

^ That is another thing, actually. We need those remove the stanzas that grayscale those icons. IMO they should be using the default icon theme now. We had grayscaled the launchers for Hydrogen but they look out of place in the theme. I am not sure where we stand with tint2 currently but we need to tie together tint2, the terminal, and conky.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-02-06 19:20:05

I can just about stomach the sickly teal background but That foreground text colour just does not work for me, either aesthetically or practically.

EDIT: my humble apologies, the teal background works very well against the Beam wallpaper (my redacted comment was made while using a grey wallpaper).

How about the standard "BunsenLabs Silver" (as used in .conkyrc)?

    foreground_color = "#c0c0c0"

Or perhaps match the cursor colour (d8d8d8) instead?

Boring but clear and readable (IMO).

tknomanzr wrote:

We had grayscaled the launchers for Hydrogen but they look out of place in the theme. I am not sure where we stand with tint2 currently

We have switched to the stock (Paper) icons for the launchers, see johnraff's VirtualBox scrot earlier in the thread:

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 849#p67849

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2018-02-06 19:47:32)

martix · 2018-02-06 20:51:23

^Out of those two the second d8d8d8 looks better here.

Actually I'm kind of surprised as somehow thought these details were cleared already back in August.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-02-06 21:05:24

martix wrote:

Out of those two the second d8d8d8 looks better here

Do you also dislike the bright teal foreground (text) colour?

If it's just me then please feel free to ignore me (I'm used to that).

martix · 2018-02-06 21:32:05

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Do you also dislike the bright teal foreground (text) colour?

I'm afraid I'm not sure which part you mean exactly.

However I think it's getting better with slightly darker fonts as tknomanzr's first version had a bright green(ish) font color (on an almost fully transparent background). I would still consider even a bit more opacity for the background. I have to mention though that I'm testing it on a grey background, so it may look better on beam as it is or with some other colors. Generally I tend to like colors similar to the conky font, which are not bright, but still easy to read.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-02-06 21:45:37

martix wrote:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Do you also dislike the bright teal foreground (text) colour?
I'm afraid I'm not sure which part you mean exactly.

Yes, sorry, I meant this configuration:

    foreground_color = "#7af0f0"

Perhaps it is just my ageing eyes but I find the text to be less than clear with that colour.

I prefer

    foreground_color = "#c0c0c0c" # or "#d8d8d8"

martix · 2018-02-06 21:58:32

^Oh, yes. On the fortune cowsay attorney screenshot it has already foreground_color #d8d8d8. That's what I meant above: It looks better here than #c0c0c0 (and 7af0f0). But as I mentioned: I'm testing it here on a grey background.

johnraff · 2018-02-07 03:43:50

tknomanzr wrote:

I am not sure where we stand with tint2 currently but we need to tie together tint2, the terminal, and conky.

All that is in bunsen-configs. Check the current situation here: https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-co … el/.config

martix's latest conky improvements are already there, but maybe a final blitz on tint2 would be a good cause for another quick topic thread?

johnraff · 2018-02-07 05:29:31

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I meant this configuration:
    foreground_color = "#7af0f0"
Perhaps it is just my ageing eyes but I find the text to be less than clear with that colour.
I prefer
    foreground_color = "#c0c0c0c" # or "#d8d8d8"

Agreed 7af0f0 might be a bit garish.
I find both those two grey text colours a bit... drab though.

Would #a0e0e0 be a compromise? Still a bit too cyan?
How about #c0e0e0?

I can't see the subtle difference between c0 and c1 for example.
I'm just jumping 8 at a time when trying values: 10 18 20 28... e0 e8 f0 ff
Younger people might be able to tweak this stuff better.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2018-02-07 07:56:35

johnraff wrote:

Would #a0e0e0 be a compromise? Still a bit too cyan?
How about #c0e0e0?

c0c0c0 is the current Conky colour, d8d8d8 is the text colour for tint2 (which we don't use 'cos it's icons only) with b5b5b5 for the clock colour

I would strongly prefer a neutral grey colour for the text, it should "inherit" the teal anyway thanks to the white-ballance illusion 8)

As such, I suggest that we standardise our text colour to #c0c0c0 (or whatever) for all programs that accept such settings.

Younger people might be able to tweak this stuff better.

+1

johnraff · 2018-02-07 08:32:34

^I actually suggested #c0e0e0 not #c0c0c0 Try it - it's only subtly blue-green.

But I still find #c0c0c0 a bit dull TBH. #d8d8d8 only slightly better...

Martix? Tknomanzr? Any ideas?

Last edited by johnraff (2018-02-07 08:54:16)

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