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#161 2017-12-04 02:48:11

johnraff
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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

^ Yes, we set the Openbox desktop to leave a clear margin at the top of the screen to allow use of the right-click menu even if an application is full-screened.

Edit rc.xml to change it (look for the <margins></margins> bit):

https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-co … c.xml#L167

I think it is actually a vestige from our #! days — tint2 is configured to allow the openbox menu to show when right-clicked on so it doesn't seem to be needed at all really (IMO).

Let's take it out of rc.xml for Helium anyway. (Tint2 also seems to have a 1px margin in tint2rc.)


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#162 2017-12-11 13:56:23

Narmo
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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Erm so how do we make volume regulation icon visible? I have sound but no option for it regulation ^.^

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#163 2017-12-11 18:57:19

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Narmo wrote:

how do we make volume regulation icon visible?

The volume icon in Helium is created by pnmixer, is that running?

pgrep pnmixer >/dev/null 2>&1 && echo yup || echo nope

If not, is there an entry for it in the autostart file?

grep pnmixer ~/.config/openbox/autostart

If there is a(n uncommented) line for the program, is the package installed?

apt-cache policy pnmixer

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#164 2017-12-11 21:18:01

Narmo
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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

First I probably should mention that sound regulation disappeared after sound confing update ^.^

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The volume icon in Helium is created by pnmixer, is that running?

pgrep pnmixer >/dev/null 2>&1 && echo yup || echo nope

If not, is there an entry for it in the autostart file?

grep pnmixer ~/.config/openbox/autostart

If there is a(n uncommented) line for the program, is the package installed?

apt-cache policy pnmixer

1 - nope
2  - pnmixer &
3 -

Installed: (none)
  Candidate:   0.6.1-1
  Version tabel:
     0.6.1-1 500
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian stretch/main i386 Packages

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#165 2017-12-11 22:06:00

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

^ What happens if we try to install it?

aptitude install --simulate pnmixer

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#166 2017-12-12 07:47:09

Narmo
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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Erm I installed it without simulation and now (except from fugly looking icon tongue) everything is fine, it works as it is supposed to be smile Thank you very much ^.^

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#167 2017-12-12 08:08:48

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Guys, will we be able to upgrade to Helium from Deuterium, because I like stable distros that support upgrading without fresh installs, and also light weight. I know bunsen is lightweigtht, but will it support upgrades, not just point releases?

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#168 2017-12-12 21:08:06

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Narmo wrote:

I installed it without simulation and now [...] everything is fine, it works as it is supposed to be

OK, thanks for the feedback.

That package should have been installed by our script, were there any error messages when you ran it?

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#169 2017-12-12 21:13:12

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

No error messages smile

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#170 2017-12-12 21:18:22

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Dreezy wrote:

will we be able to upgrade to Helium from Deuterium

I have done that with a few test systems and several users have also reported success but YMMV.

I think the best advice is to follow Debian's official guide for upgrading from jessie to stretch:

https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch … ng.en.html

Once the Debian packages are upgraded then our Helium-dev repositories can be swapped in and the box `dist-upgrade`d again.

Dreezy wrote:

I like stable distros that support upgrading without fresh installs, and also light weight. I know bunsen is lightweigtht, but will it support upgrades, not just point releases?

That depends what you mean by "support" big_smile

I am always happy to try to help resolve any issues that arise, as are most of our very helpful community, so in that respect you're covered.

However, I do think that the official advice will be that a reinstall is the only Approved Upgrade Path™

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#171 2017-12-12 21:21:09

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Narmo wrote:

No error messages smile

How strange hmm

Do you have the log from the install script, perchance?

(~/.cache/bunsen-netinstall-logs/install.log)

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#172 2017-12-13 00:43:57

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Dreezy wrote:

Guys, will we be able to upgrade to Helium from Deuterium, because I like stable distros that support upgrading without fresh installs, and also light weight. I know bunsen is lightweigtht, but will it support upgrades, not just point releases?

As HoaS said, it's just an upgrade from jessie to stretch. Light-locker is probably the most problematic, but almost any problem is surmountable with forum support. Try it and open a thread for each of your issues, please!


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#173 2017-12-13 16:27:46

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

I did this machine by installing vanilla Stretch from the netinstall image (maybe I specified LXDE desktop) and then adding the BL helium-dev repos and doing a:

sudo apt install bunsen-meta-all

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#174 2017-12-13 20:15:42

Narmo
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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Narmo wrote:

No error messages smile

How strange hmm

Do you have the log from the install script, perchance?

(~/.cache/bunsen-netinstall-logs/install.log)

Well, my installation wasn't netinstall version but update from Deuterium, so I don't have this log tongue

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#175 2017-12-13 20:41:24

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Narmo wrote:

my installation wasn't netinstall version but update from Deuterium

*sighs*

Well, that would explain things then.

Such an upgrade is currently _not_ supported by the BunsenLabs developers and is _not_ covered by this guide — if you have problems with a `dist-upgrade`d Deuterium (or Hydrogen) system then please open a separate support thread about it, thanks.

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#176 2017-12-13 20:47:13

Narmo
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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Except sticking out a little sound icon everything is very good and I hope so it will stay like that until the next release ^.^ If not will open new thread smile

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#177 2017-12-13 20:52:32

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

bigbenaugust wrote:

I did this machine by installing vanilla Stretch from the netinstall image (maybe I specified LXDE desktop) and then adding the BL helium-dev repos and doing a:

sudo apt install bunsen-meta-all

Please download and run the netinstall script, it is likely that your system is not complete.

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#178 2017-12-14 14:52:36

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
bigbenaugust wrote:

I did this machine by installing vanilla Stretch from the netinstall image (maybe I specified LXDE desktop) and then adding the BL helium-dev repos and doing a:

sudo apt install bunsen-meta-all

Please download and run the netinstall script, it is likely that your system is not complete.

I'm not actually sure it was a netinstall, it was in June/July-ish, not too long after Stretch came out. Some details may have been lost due to sleep-deprivation.


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#179 2017-12-24 20:49:19

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

hi guys,

Could someone with Stretch installed via netinstall ISO write what mount options he has in fstab / declaration?
And also - if grub was installed - what are the default kernel boot parameters in stretch...

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#180 2017-12-24 21:04:47

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Re: Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

dobl wrote:

Could someone with Stretch installed via netinstall ISO write what mount options he has in fstab / declaration?

~ $ cat /etc/fstab
# UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
~ $

big_smile

The kernel has decided to mount it thusly:

~ $ grep /dev/sda4 /proc/self/mounts
/dev/sda4 / btrfs rw,relatime,ssd,space_cache,subvolid=987,subvol=/testbed 0 0
~ $

You can get away with "rw" and nothing else, unless you have special requirements.

what are the default kernel boot parameters in stretch

Mine are somewhat non-standard:

~ $ cat /proc/cmdline
BOOT_IMAGE=/testbed/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda4 rw rootflags=subvol=testbed quiet zswap.enabled=1 apparmor=1 security=apparmor panic=0 snd-hda-intel.index=1 scsi_mod.use_blk_mq=y dm_mod.use_blk_mq=y
~ $

big_smile

The system should boot just fine with "rw" and nothing else after the "root=" bit, unless you have special requirements.

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