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#741 2017-11-19 12:39:59

BLizgreat!
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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

Ah true but if it's something you are/were really interested in, at that point have found it, ya know ? Could go off looking for relevant info elsewhere on the webz OR could hit the esc key at the right time and give the site owner the digital finger and read whatcha wanted un-harassed. big_smile

One reason for disabling right click may be trying to protect articles against copying. Heck why? But Ctrl-C should still work, right?

Funny related thought about that. Have also actually resorted to taking a screenshot of stuff I wanted a copy of but had whichever content protections in place to prevent junk like copy/paste etc. Works everytime but is also annoying if you have to translate the data over to make using it more convenient. Oh well, ya do whatcha gotta do or the best thing you can think of at the time to get that info, shrugs.

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#742 2017-11-19 13:20:00

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iMBeCil wrote:

(For curious, this is the page I'm talking about: News portal (in Croatian). It is not the click-bait, my advice don't click on it, except for academic purposes ...)

I don't have this issue with that site (without noscript), not even with an agent spoofer. On right click the menu opens.

Edit to answer the question: It's on Firefox, ESR from the repo.

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#743 2017-11-19 15:37:54

iMBeCil
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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

^Hm ... what browser and what version?

BTW, thanks for trying.


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#744 2017-11-19 20:03:56

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

nore wrote:

^^One reason for disabling right click may be trying to protect articles against copying. Heck why? But Ctrl-C should still work, right?

...or view source.
once the text is out there, it is out there.
the only way around it would be to post it as an image.


BLizgreat! wrote:

Found a trick to get around it, is to hit the esc key to stop the page load at the right time, thus stops the stupid thing from popping up to cover the article you were after.

i pity those that allow javascript by default.

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#745 2017-11-21 00:16:40

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

ohnonot wrote:

i pity those that allow javascript by default.

Install and configure something like uMatrix or NoScript on most people's systems and you'll be the one drowning in self pity at the end of the day, trust me. They'll call you incessantly, complaining that their favourite websites or social networks have become empty pages after you "messed with" their computers. >_<

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#746 2017-11-21 00:22:12

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^ Words of wisdom from another cool nixer, I begrudgingly came to like/respect. big_smile Heya Slob-san and +10 you fellow nixer !

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#747 2017-11-21 02:55:30

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

ohnonot wrote:

fwiw, i never handed over my phone address book to any online service.

It amazes me that anyone would do that. A gross betrayal of trust, I'd have thought.


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#748 2017-11-21 05:57:02

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

glittersloth wrote:
ohnonot wrote:

i pity those that allow javascript by default.

Install and configure something like uMatrix or NoScript on most people's systems and you'll be the one drowning in self pity at the end of the day, trust me. They'll call you incessantly, complaining that their favourite websites or social networks have become empty pages after you "messed with" their computers. >_<

well, i would never do that unless they asked for it.
i can tell them; but if they don't get it i just pity them instead.
big_smile

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#749 2017-11-21 14:17:55

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

johnraff wrote:

All these companies have data-bases built up from what users have sent them voluntarily - no need for spyware.
Identity resolution companies can then piece together the scraps of data they - quite legitimately - get from various sources, to uniquely identify you and attach a detailed profile.

Yes, "users have sent them". But if someone is careful and uses his/her mind, it can be made difficult to link online data to a certain profile. I mean if someone uses Midori to buy a book online from a certain IP - how do you link this info if that user cleans cache/cookies and even switches to Opera with a different IP to read news?

Companies are often unscrupelous, but it's also true to say that people have often also stupid online habits (e.g. never cleaning cookies, not using fingerprinting protection, etc. are stupid online habits).

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#750 2017-11-21 16:23:45

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#751 2017-11-21 18:49:39

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

johnraff wrote:

All these companies have data-bases built up from what users have sent them voluntarily

yeah... never press OK without reading the TOC!

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#752 2017-11-21 19:25:05

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ohnonot wrote:

never press OK without reading the TOC!

and that's why most companies have TOCs as long as an unabridged Tolstoy novel.

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#753 2017-11-21 20:24:08

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Yep, like a remark I had some weeks ago: "It's good to keep in mind: The (linux-)android project was bought by google. The reason for this was to design a (phone-)OS that allows to syphon ALL the user's data and transmit it to g*. When I say all, I mean e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g: Address, fingerprints, iris-scan (if hardware is available), location, your wlan, wlans nearby, contacts (and their data), sms messages, installed apps - also things we would not think of. Of course it's possible to remove parts of the OS or change settings here and there, but what I realized: There is always a huge amount of data sent to google and I never saw a detailed analysis of what it is."

No surprise here either...

Something else: A little game about fake news here. Pull right - true story, pull left - fake news. I had most of them correct, but not all of them.

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#754 2017-11-22 00:15:07

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Intel patches processor flaw that left millions of PCs vulnerable

Srsly, the devil Intel Management Engine can be exploited ...  roll

<poor attempt to be funny>
Yo dawg, we installed Intel Management Engine in your computer, so you can be exploited while you are exploited.
</poor attempt to be funny>


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#755 2017-11-22 00:22:33

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

martix wrote:

if someone is careful and uses his/her mind, it can be made difficult to link online data to a certain profile. I mean if someone uses Midori to buy a book online from a certain IP - how do you link this info if that user cleans cache/cookies and even switches to Opera with a different IP to read news?

You can be sure that a lot of very clever people are working on that task right now.

Companies are often unscrupelous, but it's also true to say that people have often also stupid online habits (e.g. never cleaning cookies, not using fingerprinting protection, etc. are stupid online habits).

However careful a certain person is, their friends, acquaintances and business partners might not be. Your data can be collected from them too.


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#756 2017-11-23 18:32:31

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

martix wrote:

A little game about fake news here.

hey, this is fun!
"the majority of of american teenagers think that G7 is samsung's new smartphone" - well of course i clicked "true story"!
(turns out i was wrong)

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#757 2017-11-23 18:43:56

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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

martix wrote:

A little game about fake news here.

erm, that site made my seamonkey crash twice in a row - after enabling javascript!
is it just me?

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#758 2017-11-23 20:22:52

martix
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Re: Cool Random Internet Stuff

^There is something wrong with that javascript as on certain browsers it did not start for me at all. But that game is fun to try.

Here is a cool project to support (crowdfunding). There is a thread regarding Minix/Intel Management Engine here on the forum. The following project aims to help to flash coreboot or libreboot in an open source way in the future:  http://www.zerocat.org/chipflasher.html

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#759 2017-11-25 20:02:47

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"Problems worthy of attack
prove their worth by hitting back."
Piet Hein

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#760 2017-11-25 21:24:27

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^ Nice, thanks!

Our only way of escaping the abhorrent capricious cruelty endemic to our baryonic universe is to convert as much of it as possible to computronium and transfer to a virtual paradise (IMO).

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