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#26 2016-10-24 07:38:37

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

^ Good point. I've added it to the OP


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#27 2017-04-10 02:52:40

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

I have carefully linked to all the sources and I am still getting the following:

Get:53 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main amd64 Packages [6,776 kB]                                                        
Get:54 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib amd64 Packages [50.2 kB]                                                      
Get:55 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main i386 Packages [6,779 kB]
Get:56 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib i386 Packages [49.5 kB]                                                                                                                                                                     
Get:57 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib Translation-en [38.5 kB]                                                                                                                                                                    
Get:58 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main Translation-en [4,582 kB]  

Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages                                                                                                                                                                              
  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages                                                                                                                                                                               
  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                           
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                              
Ign http://repo.mongodb.org jessie/mongodb-org/3.2/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                     
Ign http://repo.mongodb.org jessie/mongodb-org/3.2/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                        
Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main amd64 Packages                                                                                                                                                                        
  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main i386 Packages                                                                                                                                                                         
  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
Ign http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                     
Ign http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                        
Hit http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Packages                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Get:59 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages [9,923 B]                                                                                                                                                                
Get:60 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages [9,926 B]                                                                                                                                                                 
Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                          
Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                             
Ign http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                                           
Ign http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                                              
Fetched 18.3 MB in 4min 9s (73.3 kB/s)                                                                                                                                                                                                        
W: GPG error: http://qgis.org jessie InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 073D307A618E5811
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: GPG error: http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu jessie-cran3/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: GPG error: http://cran.rstudio.com lenny-cran/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: GPG error: http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1468162041 KEYEXPIRED 1468162041 KEYEXPIRED 1468162041
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: Failed to fetch http://rodeo-deb.yhat.com/dists/rodeo/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-i386/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-en_US  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-en  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxgndu/sqlitebrowser/ubuntu/dists/bunsen-hydrogen/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxgndu/sqlitebrowser/ubuntu/dists/bunsen-hydrogen/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

I see that there is mention of public keys not found, etc. Does this basically mean that my system is hosed?


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#28 2017-04-10 05:59:10

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

perchslayer wrote:

I have carefully linked to all the sources and I am still getting the following:

Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages                                                                                                                                                                              
  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages                                                                                                                                                                               
  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main amd64 Packages                                                                                                                                                                        
  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main i386 Packages                                                                                                                                                                         
  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
Hit http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ 

I see that there is mention of public keys not found, etc. Does this basically mean that my system is hosed?

yes, but not because of the public keys, you self-confessed ass-clown.

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#29 2017-04-10 06:49:33

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

^ Great, now I have to clean coffee off my laptop screen...

@ass.clownperchslayer: please post the output of:

apt-cache policy

Which software have you installed from non-Debian repositories?

I can see a (failed) attempt to add some PPAs, have you read https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian … nkenDebian?


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#30 2017-04-10 10:50:12

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

perchslayer wrote:

I have carefully linked to all the sources and I am still getting the following:

Get:53 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main amd64 Packages [6,776 kB]                                                        
Get:54 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib amd64 Packages [50.2 kB]                                                      
Get:55 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main i386 Packages [6,779 kB]
Get:56 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib i386 Packages [49.5 kB]                                                                                                                                                                     
Get:57 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/contrib Translation-en [38.5 kB]                                                                                                                                                                    
Get:58 http://httpredir.debian.org jessie/main Translation-en [4,582 kB]  

Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages                                                                                                                                                                              
  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
Err http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages                                                                                                                                                                               
  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                           
Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                              
Ign http://repo.mongodb.org jessie/mongodb-org/3.2/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                     
Ign http://repo.mongodb.org jessie/mongodb-org/3.2/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                        
Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main amd64 Packages                                                                                                                                                                        
  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
Err http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main i386 Packages                                                                                                                                                                         
  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]
Ign http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                     
Ign http://apt.postgresql.org bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                        
Hit http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Packages                                                                                                                                                                                                    
Get:59 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main amd64 Packages [9,923 B]                                                                                                                                                                
Get:60 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages [9,926 B]                                                                                                                                                                 
Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                          
Ign http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen/main Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                             
Ign http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Translation-en_US                                                                                                                                                                                           
Ign http://toolbelt.heroku.com ./ Translation-en                                                                                                                                                                                              
Fetched 18.3 MB in 4min 9s (73.3 kB/s)                                                                                                                                                                                                        
W: GPG error: http://qgis.org jessie InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 073D307A618E5811
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: GPG error: http://cran.cnr.berkeley.edu jessie-cran3/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: GPG error: http://cran.rstudio.com lenny-cran/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 06F90DE5381BA480
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: GPG error: http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org bunsen-hydrogen InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1468162041 KEYEXPIRED 1468162041 KEYEXPIRED 1468162041
W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
8B48AD6246925553
W: Failed to fetch http://rodeo-deb.yhat.com/dists/rodeo/InRelease  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/Release.gpg  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-i386/Packages  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-en_US  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-en  Something wicked happened resolving 'us.debian.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)

W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxgndu/sqlitebrowser/ubuntu/dists/bunsen-hydrogen/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxgndu/sqlitebrowser/ubuntu/dists/bunsen-hydrogen/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 78.47.156.207 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]

W: Failed to fetch http://apt.postgresql.org/pub/repos/apt/dists/bunsen-hydrogen-pgdg/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 174.143.35.246 80]

E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

I see that there is mention of public keys not found, etc. Does this basically mean that my system is hosed?

Carefully linked is different. Make your sources look like the ones damo posted at the very top plus maybe something – the URL for the PPAs for example is just wrong; we do not have PPAs.

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#31 2017-05-22 07:03:35

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

Mainly an Ubuntu user musing. If backports are enabled, shouldn't the newest program version automatically appear in Synaptic? I am a bit confused also by the need to be explicit with apt when backports are enabled. If you enabled backports, can't one assume that it is because the user wants newer software to be available in general? Particularly considering Debian's reputation for keeping programs in testing until they are almost Jurassic?

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#32 2017-05-22 07:52:05

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

anarchosax wrote:

If you enabled backports, can't one assume that it is because the user wants newer software to be available in general?

Backports are pinned at 100 by default, which means that users have to specifically request that a particular package be installed from the backports repositories. This is Debian policy. As the Debian Backports site says:

Backports cannot be tested as extensively as Debian stable, and backports are provided on an as-is basis, with risk of incompatibilities with other components in Debian stable. Use with care!

It is therefore recommended to only select single backported packages that fit your needs, and not use all available backports.

If backports got standard 500 pinning then next time you did an 'apt-get upgrade' all your packages would be upgraded to the backports version (if there was one available). This is not likely to be a Good Thing, and defeats the purpose of running Debian Stable.


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#33 2017-05-22 19:51:46

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

What is this "Synaptic" of which you speak? monkey

Have you tried

apt-cache policy $package

This will show all available versions (and their APT pin values).

https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi … ommandline

anarchosax wrote:

If you enabled backports, can't one assume that it is because the user wants newer software to be available in general?

No, not at all.

BunsenLabs is a poor choice for those who always want shiny new sh...tuff because we are based on Debian stable, please see https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian … f_Syndrome


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#34 2017-10-23 05:25:53

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

If you want more new software and lose stability, suppose it is better to use another distribution based on testing.

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#35 2017-10-29 17:10:42

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

hathor wrote:

If you want more new software and lose stability, suppose it is better to use another distribution based on testing.

Or if you are adventurous you can point the Debian repo in the sources list to Testing and upgrade to Testing. At this point my brief testing in a VM indicates it can be done fairly easily.


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#36 2017-10-29 18:25:35

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

DeepDayze wrote:

Or if you are adventurous you can point the Debian repo in the sources list to Testing and upgrade to Testing. At this point my brief testing in a VM indicates it can be done fairly easily.

Please don't advise that our users break their systems.

@all, please *do not* follow this advice unless you like fixing broken boxen.


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#37 2017-10-30 06:20:18

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

DeepDayze wrote:

At this point my brief testing in a VM indicates it can be done fairly easily.

famous last words devil

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#38 2017-10-30 07:28:41

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Re: Sources - sources.list and backports details

^ lol

One is put in mind of the skydiver who's parachute has broken and as he plummets to his death he just keeps repeating to himself:

So far, so good...


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