Pentium Dual Core = perfect install

Sector11 · 2017-08-22 17:04:04

Subject was: » Pentium Dual Core y BL

My wife's cousin has a laptop:

Bangho Modelo: M548SS
Tiene un disco C con 64 GB y un disco D con 64 GB (probably: 1 x 120-140GB HDD)
Intel Pentium Dual Core (OUCH)

It's OLD and with a Pentium Dual Core and I'm hoping more that 256MB of RAM but have not heard yet.

Anyone running BL on a "Pentium Dual Core" low end machine that can give any idea how this will work. She coming over next weekend (Sunday). She says Windows XP is killing her!

Sector11 · 2017-08-22 17:45:41

Good idea, is that as simple as:

smartctl --all /dev/sda

from the LIVE session?

Which reminds me, must download the i386 version.

Bearded_Blunder · 2017-08-22 17:58:35

S-11 wrote:

Anyone running BL on a "Pentium Dual Core" low end machine that can give any idea how this will work.

If it's running XP it'll have 512MB of ram + in all likelihood, XP is just TOO painful with less since sp1.

I don't have a dual core Pentium machine, however BL runs much better than XP on a Single Core Celeron of a similar age I do have. Also goes nicely on a plain old Pentium4 (single core with hyperthreading), but that has 1GB of RAM, the RAM matters for Firefox. That said it runs way better than XP on the same machine.

In terms of "low end" machines, my experience is the problems don't start till you get back to P3 processors, P4 and even that generation of Celerons tends to be OK.

Depending on if the processor has the sse2 instruction set

cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags

Will determine if you can run Chromium/Opera or if you're stuck with Firefox. If the memory really is as low as 256MB you might want to disable compton, clipit, use the top Conky, or disable that too.. or upgrade the RAM, it'll be cheap stuff and readily available used on ebay. You'll also likely have to run setup in text mode rather than graphical.

I actually at this moment have Helium-Dev on a 233MHz Pentium2 box with 256MB of RAM, and all the default stuff including Firefox seems to load/work eventually. With Hydrogen I could *almost* watch video saved to the hard disk even on THAT.

ohnonot · 2017-08-22 18:44:58

Sector11 wrote:

Which reminds me, must download the i386 version.

it just might be 64 bit.

nobody · 2017-08-22 18:55:28

Sector11 wrote:

Good idea, is that as simple as:
smartctl --all /dev/sda
from the LIVE session?
Which reminds me, must download the i386 version.

smartctl -t short /dev/sda
smartctl -t long /dev/sda

 -t TEST, --test=TEST
              Executes  TEST  immediately.  The '-C' option can be used in conjunction with this option to run the short or
              long (and also for ATA devices, selective or conveyance) self-tests in captive  mode  (known  as  "foreground
              mode"  for SCSI devices).  Note that only one test type can be run at a time, so only one test type should be
              specified per command line.  Note also that if a computer is shutdown or power cycled during a self-test,  no                                                                   
              harm should result.  The self-test will either be aborted or will resume automatically.                                                                                         

              All '-t TEST' commands can be given during normal system operation unless captive mode ('-C' option) is used.
              A running self-test can, however, degrade performance of the drive.  Frequent I/O requests from the operating
              system increase the duration of a test.  These impacts may vary from device to device.

              If a test failure occurs then the device may discontinue the testing and report the result immediately.

              The valid arguments to this option are:

              offline  -  [ATA] runs SMART Immediate Offline Test.  This immediately starts the test described above.  This
              command can be given during normal system operation.  The effects of this test are visible only  in  that  it
              updates  the SMART Attribute values, and if errors are found they will appear in the SMART error log, visible
              with the '-l error' option.

              If the '-c' option to smartctl shows that the device has the "Suspend Offline collection  upon  new  command"
              capability  then  you can track the progress of the Immediate Offline test using the '-c' option to smartctl.
              If the '-c' option show that the device has the "Abort Offline collection upon new command"  capability  then
              most  commands will abort the Immediate Offline Test, so you should not try to track the progress of the test
              with '-c', as it will abort the test.

              offline - [SCSI] runs the default self test in foreground. No entry is placed in the self test log.

              short - [ATA] runs SMART Short Self Test (usually under ten minutes).  This command can be given during  nor‐                                                                   
              mal system operation (unless run in captive mode - see the '-C' option below).  This is a test in a different                                                                   
              category than the immediate or automatic offline tests.  The "Self" tests check the electrical and mechanical
              performance  as  well as the read performance of the disk.  Their results are reported in the Self Test Error
              Log, readable with the '-l selftest' option.  Note that on some disks the progress of the  self-test  can  be
              monitored  by  watching  this  log  during  the  self-test;  with  other disks use the '-c' option to monitor
              progress.

              short - [SCSI] runs the "Background short" self-test.

              long - [ATA] runs SMART Extended Self Test (tens of minutes). This is a longer and more thorough  version  of
              the  Short  Self  Test  described  above.  Note that this command can be given during normal system operation
              (unless run in captive mode - see the '-C' option below).

              long - [SCSI] runs the "Background long" self-test.

              conveyance - [ATA only] runs a SMART Conveyance Self Test (minutes).  This self-test routine is  intended  to
              identify  damage  incurred during transporting of the device. This self-test routine should take on the order
              of minutes to complete.  Note that this command can be given during normal system operation  (unless  run  in
              captive mode - see the '-C' option below).

Sector11 · 2017-08-22 19:02:47

@ nobody

Yea, I have those as aliases:

### HDD S.M.A.R.T. tests ###
#Short self-test routine
#recommended polling time: 	 (   2) minutes.
#Extended self-test routine
#recommended polling time: 	 (  86) minutes.
#Conveyance self-test routine
#recommended polling time: 	 (   5) minutes.

# smartctl -t short /dev/<device>
alias smarts='sudo smartctl -t short /dev/sda'

# smartctl -t long /dev/<device>
alias smartl='sudo smartctl -t long /dev/sda'

# smartctl -t conveyance /dev/<device>
alias smartc='sudo smartctl -t conveyance /dev/sda'

# View Test results:
# smartctl -H /dev/<device>
alias smartv='sudo smartctl -H /dev/sda'

I'm good:

 22 Aug 17 @ 16:00:14 ~
   $ smartv
[sudo] password for sector11: 
smartctl 6.4 2014-10-07 r4002 [x86_64-linux-3.16.0-4-amd64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-14, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

Forgot about them until you mentioned them.

EDIT tou to you

Sector11 · 2017-08-22 19:12:25

@ B_B - thank you sse huh

@ ohnonot ... Oh that would be good news.

Bearded_Blunder · 2017-08-22 20:47:50

YW, and if it's what @ohnonot linked, then you're good to go, I've had BL running well on processors 2 generations earlier than that (namely Pentium 4) you'd have to go even earlier not to have sse2

johnraff · 2017-08-23 02:58:41

I've got a P4 level (atom?) machine running BL too, but I think you want 1GB of RAM if at all possible to use today's internet. Both my laptops are 1GB and quite usable.

Sector11 · 2017-08-23 04:40:47

Well, I'm going to recommend that she gets 2GB RAM for her machine. I saw it on Mercado Libre here to 300 pesos (300 ARS = 14.8200 EUR) and she can afford it. So it looks like I'll be installing Bunsen on Sunday for her.

I will keep everyone posted.

apacus11 · 2017-08-23 13:54:13

My wife's laptop (HP ProBook 4310s) moves BL like a boss with a core 2 duo and 3GB of RAM.
I have a netbook with atom processor that works without conky, flash/youtube and many other things... but works.

No worries about the processor, but try using lightweight web browser (palemoon works fine for me).

Sector11 · 2017-08-27 23:24:02

Well, she came at 15:30 and left at 18:00 happy as punch!

Bunsen went on her laptop like it was made for it - 160GB WD HDD with 2GB RAM and an Intel Dual Core, better than expected.

She came with Win-XP, that wasn't working and went home with Bunsen Hydrogen - she will wait for Helium like I'm doing. I didn't even see Win-XP on her machine "Get rid of it" were her instructions.

/ - 20GB
/home - 20GB
/swap - 4GB (an overkill)
and a 116GB - /media/(hername)

She was AMAZED that it went in and updated with NO reboots and "so fast!"

BTW: to tie to another thread: Spanish keyboard went in just fine.

EDITED: See below

Last edited by Sector11 (2017-08-28 14:03:16)

ohnonot · 2017-08-28 05:44:48

glad it went well!

Sector11 wrote:

Bunsen slid into her laptop like it was made for it

that is some lewd imagery you're using there!
:8

Bearded_Blunder · 2017-08-28 11:19:40

ohnonot wrote:

glad it went well!
Sector11 wrote:
Bunsen slid into her laptop like it was made for it
that is some lewd imagery you're using there!
:8

Including the {Subject Edit] :8

iMBeCil · 2017-08-28 12:50:12

Yes, as one gets older, he uses more and more se*ually oriented puns ... isn't it so, S11? ]:D

What worries me is that I'd started to do it a few years ago ... and I'm still pretty young. 8o

Sector11 · 2017-08-28 14:07:52

Guys guys, it wasn't like that ... but now that you mention it ... OOPS!
edited... subject to be edited as well.

@ iMBeCil - You may be right, but I'd never admit it. ]:D

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