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#1 2017-08-23 04:49:44

emek
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Disable visual effects

Hi there, I'm back with a, probably, simple question.

My system has very low resources and I want disable all the visual effects. From the menu, I disable compositor but when I move Thunar or Emacs (whit evince don't happen) with the mouse, the windows move very very very slow. I think doesn't happen with Evince because use GTK3 but I have no idea. So the issue is if I active compositor the system run slow.

What can I do to disable all the visual effects?

I really try to search the way to do before ask here but I have found nothing  sad  sad

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#2 2017-08-23 04:52:20

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Re: Disable visual effects

Menu -> Preferences -> Openbox -> GUI Config Tool

Try disabling "Update window contents when resizing".


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#3 2017-08-23 05:13:48

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Re: Disable visual effects

It doesn't work. I make a restart to be sure, but don't work.
I google the behaviors and it's like wobbly windows on ubuntu, but in my system it's very slow   mad

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#4 2017-08-23 05:26:47

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Re: Disable visual effects

Is everything OK without compositing?

Perhaps there is a compositor setting to suit your system? Get all the options with

man compton

Menu -> Preferences -> Compositor, to edit the compton config., and "/usr/bin/bl-compositor" for the command arguments (somewhere there is a thread about this. Maybe comment out the following lines...)

if glxinfo | egrep -iq 'direct rendering: yes'; then
    EXECXCOMP+=' --vsync opengl'
fi

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#5 2017-08-23 05:30:59

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Re: Disable visual effects

I have to sleep now, but tomorrow I'll check it, thanks for your help!

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#6 2017-08-24 00:19:16

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Re: Disable visual effects

damo wrote:

Is everything OK without compositing?

Everything is ok except for the issue of the "wobbly windows"

damo wrote:

Perhaps there is a compositor setting to suit your system? Get all the options with

man compton

Menu -> Preferences -> Compositor, to edit the compton config., and "/usr/bin/bl-compositor" for the command arguments (somewhere there is a thread about this. Maybe comment out the following lines...)

if glxinfo | egrep -iq 'direct rendering: yes'; then
    EXECXCOMP+=' --vsync opengl'
fi

But if I activate compositing my system will use resources on it, isn't?
Anyway I try to comment the lines but the system run slow with compton on

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#7 2017-08-24 06:48:58

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Re: Disable visual effects

emek wrote:

My system has very low resources

how low exactly?

and I want disable all the visual effects.

you probably should.

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#8 2017-08-25 03:43:27

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Re: Disable visual effects

ohnonot wrote:

how low exactly?

It's a netbook HP mini 110. It have 2GB of RAM and a processor Intel Atom(TM) CPU n2600 @1.60Ghz.

About the graphic card, lspci give "Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller"

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#9 2017-08-25 19:00:05

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Re: Disable visual effects

yep, disable visual effects == benefit for a single core atom thingy.

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#10 2017-08-25 19:22:38

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Re: Disable visual effects

If I were you I would not use Compton at all. For you it would be useful only to achieve vertical sync, but the performance penalty is not worth it.

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#11 2017-08-25 21:32:00

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Re: Disable visual effects

^ +1

@emek, to stop compositing on your desktop, edit the file at ~/.config/openbox/autostart and remove this line:

bl-compositor --start

https://github.com/BunsenLabs/bunsen-co … ostart#L59

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#12 2017-08-26 01:43:19

emek
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Re: Disable visual effects

I think the same way to you guys, I already disable compton, but the problem is when I do that, some programs (thunar, emacs) show a really weird behavior that I don't think it's OK. I mean, the windows tremble like gelatine. It's look like the wobbly windows of compiz

So that is my question, how can I disable all the effects besides compton or, the behavior can be an error?

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#13 2017-08-26 02:07:14

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Re: Disable visual effects

emek wrote:

... or, the behavior can be an error?

^ This..


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#14 2017-08-26 08:09:50

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Re: Disable visual effects

So these effects do not occur with any GTK3 applications?

If that is the case then perhaps just switch to GTK3 programs.

I have no idea why they might behave themselves though  hmm

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#15 2017-08-26 09:18:04

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Re: Disable visual effects

emek wrote:

I already disable compton, but the problem is when I do that, some programs (thunar, emacs) show a really weird behavior that I don't think it's OK. I mean, the windows tremble like gelatine.

nice description.
are you actually using a normal, vanilla bunsenlabs install?
have you installed any software?
do the windows wobble without any user interaction?
do all windows wobble? if not, which do wobble and which don't.

(phew, i'm getting all wobbly myself here...)

also output of

lspci -k | grep -A5 VGA

please.

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#16 2017-08-26 15:22:32

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Re: Disable visual effects

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

So these effects do not occur with any GTK3 applications?
If that is the case then perhaps just switch to GTK3 programs.

GTK3 doesn't mean more use of resources, right?

ohnonot wrote:

are you actually using a normal, vanilla bunsenlabs install?

I'm not sure what is a vanilla install, but I install the system download the OS and install via USB.

ohnonot wrote:

have you installed any software?

Related to this nothing, I just install chromium and emacs.

ohnonot wrote:

do the windows wobble without any user interaction?
do all windows wobble? if not, which do wobble and which don't.

No, just happens with some programs like chromium, emacs or thunar, and with evince or terminal don't.
Only occurs when I move the windows with the mouse, and it's move really slow

ohnonot wrote:
lspci -k | grep -A5 VGA

please.

Here is:

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 338d
	Kernel driver in use: gma500
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 338d
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel 

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#17 2017-08-26 17:12:21

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Re: Disable visual effects

emek wrote:
	Kernel driver in use: gma500

Oh dear  hmm

That driver is notoriously bad.

Some tips from the Debian wiki but they are quite old and may no longer apply:

https://wiki.debian.org/IntelEmbeddedMe … hicsDriver

More from the ArchWiki:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_GMA_500

It may be worth trying the Debian stretch "live" environment as that should use Xorg's built-in modesetting drivers for Intel hardware:

https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unof … so-hybrid/

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#18 2017-08-26 20:45:31

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Re: Disable visual effects

@HoaS I can't found the driver mentioned on the debian's wiki, or an updated one sad
On the other hand, on the archlinux wiki just appear solutions to problems I haven't

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

It may be worth trying the Debian stretch "live" environment as that should use Xorg's built-in modesetting drivers for Intel hardware:
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unof … so-hybrid/

I'll download a image and try, but what can I do when I run the OS to know if it work properly? Because I just can know if the issue that is happening now is gone.

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#19 2017-08-26 21:37:43

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Re: Disable visual effects

emek wrote:

    Kernel driver in use: gma500

aka poulsbo.
you could try adding 'nomodeset' to grub command line and see if it actually performs better with the fallback video driver.

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#20 2017-08-27 02:36:44

emek
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Re: Disable visual effects

ohnonot wrote:

you could try adding 'nomodeset' to grub command line and see if it actually performs better with the fallback video driver.

I do, but I can't notice some improvement.

Looks like I can't fix the issue because the card it's too old

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