Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-27 03:07:58

If you are on a BL Deuterium machine now (that is based on Debian Jessie), when BL Helium (based on Debian Stretch) comes out officially, it should just be a matter of updating all of your repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list and then doing an apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. And then reconciling any differences (I understand Conky config is a point of contention for some).

But Helium is not out officially as yet. You could say it hasn't floated out yet. Or that this airship hasn't sailed yet.

Sector11 · 2017-07-27 03:14:25

Helium is in the hanger. The final touches being applied and soon it will roll out on the tarmac for all to fly.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-07-27 06:38:19

user_bugs wrote:

will it be possible in the future to upgrade to stretch through the dis-upgrade or upgrade?

This is undecided.

Any `dist-upgrade`s from Hydrogen/Deuterium to Helium are to be undertaken at the user's own risk, please be sure to report any issues encountered for the benefit of others.

user_bugs · 2017-07-27 07:49:00

Good so far I'm doing normal usage, I did not try to use another method to upgrade to debian 9 I'm waiting for the community

DustyB · 2017-07-27 15:01:33

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

user_bugs wrote:
will it be possible in the future to upgrade to stretch through the dis-upgrade or upgrade?
This is undecided.
Any `dist-upgrade`s from Hydrogen/Deuterium to Helium are to be undertaken at the user's own risk, please be sure to report any issues encountered for the benefit of others.

Did a dist-upgrade on a BunsenLabs Deuterium install to Stretch everything seems to be working fine thus far ..

1. Removed BL Repositories
2. Updated Main sources.list file to reflect Stretch Repositories
3.

apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade

**Have not added BL Helium Repos yet**

Last edited by DustyB (2017-07-27 15:02:19)

DeepDayze · 2017-07-29 05:36:15

I've done a Fools Upgrade and now running Bun-Stretch

damo · 2017-07-29 05:44:35

^ Nice one

NB: there have been a few changes recently, especially to the bunsen configs, which you won't see unless you copy the files to $HOME.

DustyB · 2017-07-29 06:43:58

**Update** the stretch upgrade caused apt to make redundant a few packages ... suck as gtk2 and gtk3 engines ... did not pay attention to this during the upgrade (my apologies) apt-get prompts to run

apt-get autoremove

so did that then installed gtk2 and gtk3 engines causing the installation of a number of xfce4 meta packages (primarily themes, fonts)

user_bugs · 2017-07-29 09:54:07

Yesterday I had done the steps but I rebooted the system and did not call until I went to sleep sad 1gb pro air, I will wait for the final version so it will be automatically updateable with sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will it be possible right?

DeepDayze · 2017-07-29 14:03:32

DustyB wrote:

**Update** the stretch upgrade caused apt to make redundant a few packages ... suck as gtk2 and gtk3 engines ... did not pay attention to this during the upgrade (my apologies) apt-get prompts to run
apt-get autoremove
so did that then installed gtk2 and gtk3 engines causing the installation of a number of xfce4 meta packages (primarily themes, fonts)

I did that as well, and manually reinstalled the gtk2-engines-murrine and gtk3-engines-breeze so then some themes started working again after upgrade.

bigbenaugust · 2017-08-02 20:32:19

Tap-to-click quit working in Helium and I can't figure out the right xinput options to fix things.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-08-02 20:40:46

^ Copy /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/40-libinput.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and add

    Option "Tapping" "on"

in between Section & EndSection

Read `man libinput` (and `man xorg.conf`) for more.

bigbenaugust · 2017-08-02 20:48:32

Ahh, I was trying to enable it at Openbox start time with xinput and meeting with failure.
Let me try this.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-08-02 20:56:27

bigbenaugust wrote:

trying to enable it at Openbox start time with xinput

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Li … figuration

bigbenaugust · 2017-08-03 00:37:08

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

bigbenaugust wrote:
trying to enable it at Openbox start time with xinput
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Li … figuration

I read that, it was a matter of figuring out which bit to flip with xinput. I looked at all of the options and saw one that looked promising, but turning it on did nothing. Maybe I needed to restart X after setting the option? I will post what I was using when I get back in front of my work machine in the morning.

But creating /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and copying that file and adding the Tapping option (then restarting X) worked great too.

I saw the method of doing it via gsettings, but I figured gsettings had no power in Openbox.

Last edited by bigbenaugust (2017-08-03 01:11:23)

KrunchTime · 2017-08-09 22:02:07

So, if one were to install Stretch and then run the Helium-dev script to bring in the BL goodies, would the theming get updated once BL Helium is officially stable? I ask because after reinstalling on my desktop a month or so ago, the Hydrogen theming is slightly different from when I initially brought in the BL Hydrogen goodies.

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johnraff · 2017-08-10 01:32:08

^The theming is mostly set in the packages bunsen-configs (config files) and bunsen-images (wallpapers and background images). Things will change any time those packages are updated, whether helium-dev or "official" helium, when that's released, so no dramatic changes would be expected with the official announcement - by that time the packages are all supposed to be in their finished state anyway.

But... once user config files (anything inside $HOME) are installed, the system won't overwrite them. That would be extremely rude - suppose a user had spent hours crafting their own custom settings? So, even if files in /usr/share/bunsen/skel are upgraded, existing users won't see any change unless they manually edit their config files or copy the new ones in. Newly created users will get the upgraded settings though.

Existing users can upgrade their personal config files from skel by deleting $HOME/.config/bunsen/bl-setup, logging out and back in. Everything will go back to the BL default, but backup copies will be made of changed files, which might hold important user config tweaks.

KrunchTime · 2017-08-10 03:51:05

Thank you for the detailed response. I didn't know most of that.

johnraff wrote:

But... once user config files (anything inside $HOME) are installed, the system won't overwrite them.

That explains why my initial install of Hydrogen looks different from the install I did about 2-3 months ago.

Last edited by KrunchTime (2017-08-10 03:55:22)

DeepDayze · 2017-08-10 12:55:03

KrunchTime wrote:

Thank you for the detailed response. I didn't know most of that.
johnraff wrote:
But... once user config files (anything inside $HOME) are installed, the system won't overwrite them.
That explains why my initial install of Hydrogen looks different from the install I did about 2-3 months ago.

Best thing to do is move the home folder out of the way by renaming it and then do the install. Create new user same as old. After install copy the data from old home folder to new. I would then copy over certain hidden folders like .Mozilla. This way you will have new default config in the new user home folder.

Hope that helps.

DeepDayze · 2017-08-10 17:01:43

earlybird wrote:

DeepDayze wrote:
KrunchTime wrote:
Thank you for the detailed response. I didn't know most of that.

That explains why my initial install of Hydrogen looks different from the install I did about 2-3 months ago.
Best thing to do is move the home folder out of the way by renaming it and then do the install. Create new user same as old. After install copy the data from old home folder to new. I would then copy over certain hidden folders like .Mozilla. This way you will have new default config in the new user home folder.
Hope that helps.
Deleting and then recreating an user name may or may not result into the new account getting assigned the same UID (and complementary GID), so a `chown user:user -R $HOME` may be necessary too.

Yes that will most likely be necessary anyway too if you are reusing an old home directory.

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