Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Sector11 · 2017-07-17 17:02:08

johnraff wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
btrfs-tools was ripped out of BL a while back with no problems. Should not have been in that list.
Not to my knowlege. It was included in the Hydrogen isos released last year. Anyway, I'll change it to btrfs-progs in the netinstall install list (pkgs-norecs).

No no ... you misunderstood - it was ripped out of my system ... here on my local machine.

... screaming like a stuck pig it was .... ]:D

BTW. I have a beef with the pkgs-norecs and pkgs-recs lists.

I removed things from the "pkgs-norecs" list that the "pkgs-recs" installed regardless.

lightdm, light-locker are two.

Or these:
modemmanager, network-manager, network-manager-gnome, network-manager-openvpn-gnome, network-manager-pptp-gnome, network-manager-vpnc-gnome

Didn't want them as D9NI setup DHCP connection just fine. But something overwrote my D9NI /etc/network/interfaces file and fixing that and rebooting did not bring back my network connection. So something somewhere did a number on me. ...

So I decided to do a complete install with the lists as you have them. That was even worse. Grey screen with the default fugly OBmenu. I'm such a noob.

Then I figured what the heck, installed from D9NI - Xfce, then Mate over Xfce and LXDE over Mate - pulseaudio in all of them: FAIL!

And the ONLY way I get it working in BL - qasmixer. - go figure, I have a crappy machine. But I need this:

Sector11 · 2017-07-17 17:03:26

ector1935 wrote:

@sector11
I locked it in preferences conky-all, blocking it in synaptic does not need anything!
good day

I do not understand.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-07-17 20:22:53

Sector11 wrote:

I have a beef with the pkgs-norecs and pkgs-recs lists

It would probably be best if you could open a thread for this in Bug Reports, the netinstall script is designed to be user-alterable.

Please include the full content of pkgs-recs & pkgs-norecs (if you have changed them) and also include the full output of this command from the system *after* the netinstall script has finished it's job:

dpkg --list | grep ^i

You can export this to a text file and retrieve that from a live ISO if you can't connect:

dpkg --list | grep ^i > ~/Documents/packages.list

Sector11 · 2017-07-17 21:12:56

Well, a bit later in that post I said: Then I figured what the heck, installed from D9NI - Xfce, then Mate over Xfce and LXDE over Mate - pulseaudio in all of them: FAIL! XFCE went over the failed BL attempt.

Currently I have a D9NI sitting at TTY1 - nothing else. I'll try something tonight, but I think I'll compare the files installed in the bl-{scripts} with the files in the "pkgs-norecs" that will probably be easier... give me something to do.

Sector11 · 2017-07-18 01:28:41

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Warning: BunsenLabs Helium is at the development stage and must be considered *experimental* in nature so please *do not* use this system for anything important.
Preamble
With the release of Debian 9.0 now upon us, this guide will show how to install a BunsenLabs Helium test system (known as "Helium-dev").
There are two steps to this process:
install a Debian stretch base system
run the bunsen-netinstall script
For the first step, it is possible to use the Debian stretch netinstall ISO image (with the non-free firmware already included):
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unof … ch/iso-cd/
If this method is used, be sure to de-select all of the desktop options in the tasksel section, just leave the "standard system utilities" box ticked and un-select all of the other options (unless you want a print, ssh or web server).
Once the system is installed, the bunsen-netinstall script can be run after first boot (from a console login), as described below.
For this guide I will be showing how to install from a running terminal session in BunsenLabs Hydrogen (or any other GNU/Linux environment) as this removes the need for continual rebooting, installation media, reading online instructions from the TTY, and so on.
Installing stretch
{snip}
Applying the netinstall script
First, either log in as the normal user (if booting into a conventional stretch installation) or use this command from the chroot:
su - $username

Since nothing seemed to work for me I'm going to ask a couple of really dumb questions here. Just to clear up some doubts. Now I know other have done this guess I'm not as smart. But.

Near the top I see where it says two steps:

There are two steps to this process:

install a Debian stretch base system
run the bunsen-netinstall script

So for me 1. is install Stretch from a Net Install Then it looks like skip down to Run the bunsen-netinstall script for the 2nd step.

so what's all the stuff between:
Installing stretch

and:

Applying the netinstall script

Do I need to do that too?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-07-18 06:27:00

Sector11 wrote:

what's all the stuff between:
Installing stretch
and:
Applying the netinstall script
Do I need to do that too?

The first step (installing Debian stretch) can be done in two ways:

Debian stretch ISO image, this is what you have done
`debootstrap` from a live ISO image or pre-installed system

I included the second method because it's the one I use and I wanted some notes for the process and also because it is more flexible than an ISO image and can be used in cases where the conventional installer will not work.

I did actually (attempt to) explain this in the section of text between the bullet points outlining the steps and the Installing stretch header but obviously I was not very clear.

johnraff · 2017-07-18 14:05:40

Sector11 wrote:

I have a beef with the pkgs-norecs and pkgs-recs lists.
I removed things from the "pkgs-norecs" list that the "pkgs-recs" installed regardless.
lightdm, light-locker are two.
Or these:
modemmanager, network-manager, network-manager-gnome, network-manager-openvpn-gnome, network-manager-pptp-gnome, network-manager-vpnc-gnome

The packages listed in "pkgs-norecs" are installed without recommends, while those in "pkgs-recs" are installed with recommends, so if any of the packages in pkgs-recs recommends a package that was in pkgs-norecs, even if you commented it out from there, it will be installed. (The packages in "pkgs-recs" are all BunsenLabs packages.) That would account for lightdm (rec. by bunsen-configs) but I've no idea where modemmanager and network-manager came from. You could move all the bunsen-* packages from pkgs-recs to pkgs-norecs to get them installed without recommends.

damo · 2017-07-18 14:34:12

AFICS, bunsen-meta-all is the only package that Recommends lots of other stuff, but that isn't in pkg-recs.

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-24 18:53:37

I totally didn't follow the instructions, but here I am.
I installed Stretch from a netinstall CD with the nonfree firmware and then added the testing repos as in the OP.
Then I installed bunsen-meta-all and let'er rip.

Looks like the GRUB theme didn't make it, but everything else did. Great so far.

Sector11 · 2017-07-24 19:01:23

WOW! Nice. Good Luck.

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-24 19:26:16

Notifications don't seem to be working, but that is the only desktop glitch so far.

johnraff · 2017-07-24 23:38:26

bigbenaugust wrote:

Looks like the GRUB theme didn't make it...

Sorry, there's no Grub theme for helium yet.
Don't know what went wrong with your notifications, though - they're supposed to work.

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-25 00:56:00

johnraff wrote:

Don't know what went wrong with your notifications, though - they're supposed to work.

Actually, it's just the volume control notifications. Everything else is super.

(and this is my work machine-- it gets scanned for vulnerabilities on wednesday )

johnraff · 2017-07-25 01:50:27

Ah the volume notifications issue has been noticed. We might try replacing volumicon-alsa with pnmixer in Helium.
In fact you could gve that a try, editing openbox/autostart accordingly.

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-25 13:20:02

Just did it. That works.

johnraff · 2017-07-26 03:59:03

^thanks for the feedback!

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-26 15:31:51

johnraff wrote:

^thanks for the feedback!

No problem, I vote for an official release... tomorrow.

bigbenaugust · 2017-07-26 17:28:47

I think I will do the same (netinstall+nonfree FW XFCE install, with the BL repos added), then switch it to another init system for maximum amusement.

Sector11 · 2017-07-26 17:46:02

^ Now there's an OOPS! in the making.

Edit: I wanted to add: If I tried that! But had to run ...

user_bugs · 2017-07-26 23:11:16

I have a doubt, will it be possible in the future to upgrade to stretch through the dis-upgrade or upgrade? Or in case the development for this will take time?

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