Installing BunsenLabs Helium-dev

Sector11 · 2017-07-15 23:33:36

{sigh} Bombed out Had D9NI right there are the CLI ...

There are two steps to this process:

install a Debian stretch base system - DONE!
run the bunsen-netinstall script

So I trucked on down to:
Applying the netinstall script
And things looked good .... until my &%/?&%$ screen went black and I could do NOTHING.

So I re-installed D9NI and sat there moving my mouse as it was doing it's thing and again my screen went black ... NOTHING!

Yea know, if it wasn't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all.

I'll wait for the release.

KrunchTime · 2017-07-15 23:38:41

^ Sounds like maybe you have a graphics card that needs specific drivers to work that aren't present in a D9NI. If you know the specific pkg(s), maybe you could have those available somehow during D9NI. I do know from my previous DNI experiences, the installer detects the Broadcom WiFi card on my desktop system and asks if I want to install the driver(s) for it.

Last edited by KrunchTime (2017-07-15 23:39:14)

Sector11 · 2017-07-16 00:09:15

Oh No that's not it ...the screen goes blank after a certain time ... like maybe xfce4-power-manager was installed and set to blank the screen after x minutes or some such thing, but then I'm not sure if that was installed.

I have a D9NI up and running that I did by myself but I did things a little at a time and still needs work.

KrunchTime · 2017-07-16 00:14:33

You should be able to bring the screen back by pressing a key on your keyboard if a power manager is blanking the screen. ...did things a little at a time... Nice and slow is the way to go.

Last edited by KrunchTime (2017-07-16 00:15:37)

Sector11 · 2017-07-16 00:28:31

That didn't work. My D9NI on /dev/sda8&9 Looka almost like Bunsen but does not act like Bunsen simply because I use my own OB Menu and all my conkys are on /media/5 as are my wall papers.

damo · 2017-07-16 08:29:59

@Sector11 - now you have given that description, I found a similar thing. It was the screenlocker, and no key tap would bring it back. However, it seems the dialog is still running, but unseen, so blindly enter your password and press enter

I thought it was just me, so maybe it should be a Bug Report....

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-07-16 10:03:46

Sector11 wrote:

my &%/?&%$ screen went black and I could do NOTHING.

That must have been &%/?&%$ annoying

Try this before running the script:

setterm -blank 0

https://unix.stackexchange.com/question … xt-console

FWIW, on my Debian systems pressing the space bar brings the screen back (the mouse does nothing in a TTY unless you use gpm) but I presume you already tried that.

If `setterm` doesn't work then you will have to load a live image and chroot into the new system to apply the script, see the OP for details.

Sector11 · 2017-07-16 13:52:40

@ damo - screenruler - go figure. Yup, bug report.

@ HoaS - Yea it was. Thanlks for the "setterm -blank 0" idea. Nope didn't know that about the mouse ... should have been obvious though I don't recall seeing a pointer.

Read the chroot stuff and went ... HUH! ... WHAT! ... no thank you.

Next plan is to install D9NI and then get the Bunsen netinstall script and with nano eliminate some stuff not wanted .... look for smoke on the horizon.

Edit @damo & HoaS - maybe the installer script could "setterm -blank 0" as well? Just s thought.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-07-16 14:07:15

Sector11 wrote:

bug report

If my suggestion works on your machine, this diff should fix the problem:

Puffy: ~/git/bunsen-netinstall $ diff install install.orig
29,30d28
< # If running in a TTY, disable screen blanking
< [[ "$TERM" = "linux" ]] && setterm -blank 0
Puffy: ~/git/bunsen-netinstall 1$

Probably best to leave that to John though...

Sector11 · 2017-07-16 15:01:58

Yea, I'll not touch it ... but will be trying the "setterm -blank 0" just as soon as D9NI is installed (starting that in moments.

Sector11 · 2017-07-16 16:23:01

Project on hold for questions.

1. Are the files preceded by # in ~/bunsen-netinstall-helium-dev/pkgs-norecs NOT going to be installed OR are they scheduled to be installed with programs in ~/bunsen-netinstall-helium-dev/pkgs-recs?

With this in mind:

 16 Jul 17 @ 13:20:39 ~
   $ mac
Machine:   Mobo: ECS model: MCP61M-M3 v: 7.0 Bios: American Megatrends v: 080015 date: 11/03/2010
 
 16 Jul 17 @ 13:20:55 ~
   $ gra
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2
           GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.102 Direct Rendering: Yes
 
 16 Jul 17 @ 13:21:03 ~
   $ nwk
Network:   Card: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet
           driver: forcedeth port: d480 bus-ID: 00:07.0 chip-ID: 10de:03ef
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           WAN IP: <filter> IF: eth0 ip: <filter> ip-v6: <filter>

2. How safe/unsafe is it to remove these:

btrfs-tools
dmz-cursor-theme
firmware-b43-installer
firmware-b43legacy-installer
#firmware-ralink
firmware-realtek
i965-va-driver
modemmanager
network-manager
network-manager-gnome
#network-manager-openvpn-gnome
#network-manager-pptp-gnome
#network-manager-vpnc-gnome
#xfce4-mixer
xfce4-notifyd
xfce4-power-manager
xfce4-screenshooter
#xfce4-volumed
xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
#xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse
xserver-xorg-input-wacom
xserver-xorg-video-intel
xserver-xorg-video-qxl

Last edited by Sector11 (2017-07-16 16:24:16)

damo · 2017-07-16 16:48:20

The no-recs list is from Hydrogen, so the commented-out ones are packages that either cause problems with Stretch, or may no longer be required (or desired), or have been replaced by others in Stretch. @johnraff or @HoaS will know better than me though

The ones you want to remove look OK to me, but do it with the '-s/--simulate' switch to see what may happen. For 'btrfs-tools', at least:

This is a transitional dummy package. It can safely be removed.

Sector11 · 2017-07-16 17:29:20

While no-recs may be a part of Hydrogen, it is in the bunsen-netinstall-helium-dev.tar.gz package, hence my asking.

btrfs-tools was ripped out of BL a while back with no problems. Should not have been in that list. I'm making a list of files I can safely remove as "not needed/wanted" by matching anything that is also in my personal "install" script.

Thanks damo.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-07-16 18:02:54

damo wrote:

btrfs-tools

Yes, we should replace that with btrfs-progs.

@S11, you can remove that list if you want, just let us know if anything doesn't work, eh?

Sector11 · 2017-07-16 18:27:11

I will keep everyone notified here. My "exclude" list is now up to: 55 programs. Some removed because I have a my own "welcome" script called "ainstall" (auto install) starts like:

#!/bin/bash
# Sector11's list
#  Not in Debian Wally:
#  dlume umplayer ceni kernel-remover
#  Not in Debian Jessie:
#  gawk-doc gimp-help-en midori nvclock umplayer yad ceni kernel-remover
#  xsane - removed - bugs
#
#Recommended packages:
#  vorbis-tools libmusicbrainz-discid-perl libwebservice-musicbrainz-perl wordnet-sense-index libnotify1
#  python-notify claws-mail-i18n cups-browsed dialog fonts-sil-gentium myspell-en-us hunspell-dictionary
#  myspell-dictionary qpdf libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-odbc libqt4-sql-psql libqt4-sql-sqlite
#  libqt4-sql-sqlite2 libqt4-sql-ibase qttranslations5-l10n libreoffice-sdbc-firebird libreoffice-sdbc-hsqldb
#  xfonts-mathml musescore-soundfont-gm fluid-soundfont-gm freepats tk-tile python-imaging-tk w3m-img

#Things to delete if installed automatically
#	light-locker wamerican-insane
#  flashplugin-nonfree  removed in favour of Bunsen-pepperflash pligin

echo 'apt get is about to install -- THE list! ---'
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends abcde ack-grep aegisub {a really big snip} wmctrl xarchiver xfburn xfe xml2 yad &&

exit 0

Then I have an "aainstall" script:

#!/bin/bash
# Sector11's list
echo ''
echo 'Now to configure your new apps'
echo 'Press ANY key to create vnstat database (eth0)'
read key
sudo vnstat -u -i eth0 &&
echo ''
echo 'Press a key to continue with sensors-detect'
echo 'Answer "default to everything!'
echo 'Except the final - answer "Yes"'
echo ''
read key
sudo sensors-detect
echo ''
echo 'Activating "/etc/init.d/kmod start"'
sudo /etc/init.d/kmod start
echo ''
echo 'Press a key to configure hddtemp'
echo 'Answer: Yes, 0, Yes, OK, OK'
echo ''
read key
sudo dpkg-reconfigure hddtemp
echo ''
read key
echo 'Crystalcursors Number 7'
echo ''
sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
echo ''
echo 'Done'
echo 'Any key to exit'
read key
exit

So I don't want those programs in the Net-Install part of the script.

However we'll know if any of the others I rip out cause an OOPS!

Sector11 · 2017-07-16 20:21:19

This is my no install list ...

 arc-theme							 alsa-base
 avahi-daemon						 avahi-utils
 btrfs-tools						 bzip2
 catfish							 chntpw
 compton							 conky-all
 crda								 dmz-cursor-theme
 efibootmgr							 fdpowermon
 filezilla							 firmware-b43-installer
 firmware-b43legacy-installer		 firmware-ralink
 firmware-realtek					 firmware-iwlwifi
 flashplugin-nonfree				 fonts-droid
 fonts-noto							 fonts-noto-mono
 fusesmb							 galculator
 geany								 geany-plugins
 gnome-themes-standard				 gnumeric
 gsimplecal							 gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad			 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
 gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio			 gtk2-engines-murrine
 gvfs-bin							 hardinfo
 hddtemp							 hexchat
 i965-va-driver						 iceweasel
 intel-microcode					 jfsutils
 libreoffice-writer					 libreoffice-gtk
 libnss-mdns						 lightdm
 light-locker						 lm-sensors
 lsb-release						 modemmanager
 network-manager					 network-manager-gnome
 network-manager-openvpn-gnome		 network-manager-pptp-gnome
 network-manager-vpnc-gnome			 obmenu
 pavucontrol						 pcmciautils
 pulseaudio							 pulseaudio-module-x11
 reiser4progs						 reiserfsprogs
 rfkill								 synaptic
 tint2								 transmission-gtk
 update-inetd						 va-driver-all
 vdpau-va-driver					 vlc
 vlc-plugin-notify					 volti
 wireless-tools						 wmctrl
 xdotool							 xfce4-mixer
 xfce4-notifyd						 xfce4-power-manager
 xfce4-screenshooter				 xfce4-volumed
 xfsprogs							 xscreensaver
 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics		 xserver-xorg-input-evdev
 xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse			 xserver-xorg-input-wacom
 xserver-xorg-video-intel			 xserver-xorg-video-qxl
 yelp								 zenity

Xing fingers ...

and I'm off to the races....

DeepDayze · 2017-07-17 00:17:15

Sector11 wrote:

This is my no install list ...

 arc-theme							 alsa-base
 avahi-daemon						 avahi-utils
 btrfs-tools						 bzip2
 catfish							 chntpw
 compton							 conky-all
 crda								 dmz-cursor-theme
 efibootmgr							 fdpowermon
 filezilla							 firmware-b43-installer
 firmware-b43legacy-installer		 firmware-ralink
 firmware-realtek					 firmware-iwlwifi
 flashplugin-nonfree				 fonts-droid
 fonts-noto							 fonts-noto-mono
 fusesmb							 galculator
 geany								 geany-plugins
 gnome-themes-standard				 gnumeric
 gsimplecal							 gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad			 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
 gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio			 gtk2-engines-murrine
 gvfs-bin							 hardinfo
 hddtemp							 hexchat
 i965-va-driver						 iceweasel
 intel-microcode					 jfsutils
 libreoffice-writer					 libreoffice-gtk
 libnss-mdns						 lightdm
 light-locker						 lm-sensors
 lsb-release						 modemmanager
 network-manager					 network-manager-gnome
 network-manager-openvpn-gnome		 network-manager-pptp-gnome
 network-manager-vpnc-gnome			 obmenu
 pavucontrol						 pcmciautils
 pulseaudio							 pulseaudio-module-x11
 reiser4progs						 reiserfsprogs
 rfkill								 synaptic
 tint2								 transmission-gtk
 update-inetd						 va-driver-all
 vdpau-va-driver					 vlc
 vlc-plugin-notify					 volti
 wireless-tools						 wmctrl
 xdotool							 xfce4-mixer
 xfce4-notifyd						 xfce4-power-manager
 xfce4-screenshooter				 xfce4-volumed
 xfsprogs							 xscreensaver
 xserver-xorg-input-synaptics		 xserver-xorg-input-evdev
 xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse			 xserver-xorg-input-wacom
 xserver-xorg-video-intel			 xserver-xorg-video-qxl
 yelp								 zenity

Xing fingers ...

and I'm off to the races....

Just don't crash!

Sector11 · 2017-07-17 00:42:39

EDIT: Picture or it didn't happen:

It did install a few things on the "no install" list that messed things up. For example: lightdm, light-locker were a not install item:

 16 Jul 17 @ 21:23:42 ~
   $ list light-locker
Alias for: apt list -a filename
Listing... Done
light-locker/stable,now 1.7.0-3 amd64 [installed,automatic]

 
 16 Jul 17 @ 21:23:56 ~
   $ list lightdm
Alias for: apt list -a filename
Listing... Done
lightdm/stable,now 1.18.3-1 amd64 [installed,automatic]

 
 16 Jul 17 @ 21:24:12 ~
   $

One of the bl-{name} scripts has those as a depends I guess, and it messed up my DCHP network interfaces file and no matter what I do, it will not go online. Network-manager was not installed, but something in one of the bl-scripts must have changed something.

Also I said no to "conky-all" but bl-conky installed it. And Cv1.10 too

Back to the dwawing board ....

Oh this is for HoaS:

setterm -blank 0

worked like a charm ... stayed on the full time. Thank you.

@DeepDayze
It worked but not quite as expected.

====
OK, one more time. This time pick and choose what the bl-scripts install.

Last edited by Sector11 (2017-07-17 00:51:20)

johnraff · 2017-07-17 03:01:35

Sector11 wrote:

1. Are the files preceded by # in ~/bunsen-netinstall-helium-dev/pkgs-norecs NOT going to be installed OR are they scheduled to be installed with programs in ~/bunsen-netinstall-helium-dev/pkgs-recs?

Comments in pkgs-norecs and pkgs-recs are ignored. (Feel free to add your own when you change something - it won't do any harm.) Both those files are necessary though - what damo meant about being from Hydrogen was that the package lists were inherited from there and needed modifying. When packages were removed I commented them out instead of deleting them, for reference, so later we could see what had been removed just in case it caused problems.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Sector11 wrote:
bug report
If my suggestion works on your machine, this diff should fix the problem:
Puffy: ~/git/bunsen-netinstall $ diff install install.orig
29,30d28
< # If running in a TTY, disable screen blanking
< [[ "$TERM" = "linux" ]] && setterm -blank 0
Puffy: ~/git/bunsen-netinstall 1$

Sector11 wrote:

Oh this is for HoaS:
setterm -blank 0
worked like a charm

Great! Let's put that in the netinstall script. Thanks HoaS.

Sector11 wrote:

btrfs-tools was ripped out of BL a while back with no problems. Should not have been in that list.

Not to my knowlege. It was included in the Hydrogen isos released last year. Anyway, I'll change it to btrfs-progs in the netinstall install list (pkgs-norecs).

ector1935 · 2017-07-17 07:56:35

@sector11
I locked it in preferences conky-all, blocking it in synaptic does not need anything!
good day
edit
sorry@sector11 i confused post

Last edited by ector1935 (2017-07-18 08:05:40)

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