Helium release date?

D219 · 2017-07-03 16:29:42

I know Helium is still in devellopment, but I am having a growing number of problem staying with Debian Jessie.

To know if I should upgrade to Helium-dev or wait, I d like to know if there is any release date planned for BL Helium.

If it is too far for my taste, I ll just jump on Helium-dev, but if it is soon enought, I ll just wait for the stable release and leave the champaign in my fridge

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-07-03 16:41:58

D219 wrote:

release date planned for BL Helium

We are planning to release Helium as soon as it is ready.

I appreciate that this probably isn't the answer you want but please try to understand that this distribution is developed entirely by volunteers in their spare time.

Until that fateful day, you could try Debian stretch or perhaps attempt to work through the problems you are having with jessie.

FWIW, my jessie system is working perfectly and I intend to keep it running until the LTS team take over next year.

kozimodo · 2017-07-03 18:47:22

I am still happy with Jessie myself but I have installed helium-dev on a VM and on my old, old Acer Aspire. There is currently a bug in bl-welcome but if you don't need it, everything else seems to be working well.

Horizon_Brave · 2017-07-04 01:54:05

I have a pretty limited use case, but I've made the switch to Stretch, and layered on Helium-dev on top, and I haven't had any issues. That setup is on a VM, my Stretch Stable system on my laptop, which is Stretch with BL Hydrogen even runs smooth as non-fat, non-carb, non-GMO sugar free butter

D219 · 2017-07-04 10:00:39

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I appreciate that this probably isn't the answer you want but please try to understand that this distribution is developed entirely by volunteers in their spare time.

I do know, and what make it amazing when you have a grasp of how much work goes into BL.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Until that fateful day, you could try Debian stretch or perhaps attempt to work through the problems you are having with jessie.
FWIW, my jessie system is working perfectly and I intend to keep it running until the LTS team take over next year.

The system in itself run fine, but some package (firefox, keepass2...) are starting to lag behind too much to my taste. I will wait for a month or so, and use Helium or Helium dev depending on what is available at the moment

Horizon_Brave wrote:

...Stretch with BL Hydrogen

Mixing BL Hydrogen with Debian Stretch? Ins't that discouraged by Debian itself in Don't Break Debian?

damo · 2017-07-04 10:25:27

D219 wrote:

....
Horizon_Brave wrote:
...Stretch with BL Hydrogen
Mixing BL Hydrogen with Debian Stretch? Ins't that discouraged by Debian itself in Don't Break Debian?

Sort of, which is why you need to manage any problems yourself if you try it now. Although major issues are mainly to do with touchpad drivers and incompatible gtk themes, and are easy enough to get round.

It is kind of satisfying to do a Stretch netinstall, and run the BL Helium-dev netinstall script though. No major breakage so far doing that

kozimodo · 2017-07-04 13:14:12

D219 wrote:

The system in itself run fine, but some package (firefox, keepass2...) are starting to lag behind too much to my taste. I will wait for a month or so, and use Helium or Helium dev depending on what is available at the moment

These are both in jessie-backports. To enable them add:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free

If jessie-backports aren't already enabled, do so by creating "/etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-jessie-backports.list" with the following line:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free

To install, type:

sudo apt -t jessie-backports install keepassx firefox-esr

Last edited by kozimodo (2017-07-04 13:21:03)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-07-04 19:38:38

^ There is no firefox-esr package in jessie-backports.

D219 wrote:

but some package (firefox, keepass2...) are starting to lag behind too much to my taste

Well you are in for a bit of a disappointment then — the firefox version is the same in jessie & stretch (and even poor old wheezy) because Debian provide the very latest (ESR) version for all branches:

https://packages.debian.org/search?keyw … ection=all

To repeat: the firefox-esr browser supplied with BunsenLabs is the latest version and does not need to be updated unless you want all of the new bugs (I think some call them features) that are present in the bleeding-edge version.

D219 · 2017-07-05 09:08:11

I have already installed the jessie-backport version of keepass, as of firefox, I m using the mozilla APT archive. However, the latest jessie-backports version of Keepass doesn't want to play ball with KeeFox.

I was using Firefox Aurora back when I was on Windows, so I am used to the new "features" and how to work around them if neccessary

KrunchTime · 2017-07-05 16:05:18

@D219: You might want to take a look at this fork of KeePassX to see if it plays better with KeeFox.

D219 · 2017-07-06 08:06:52

@Krunchtime: Oooh, thanks a lot, will try it

EDIT: Tried it, but there is no RPC/HTTP integrated yet, so KeeFox doesn't work with it.

Last edited by D219 (2017-07-06 09:37:57)

KrunchTime · 2017-07-06 21:48:04

I just took a look at KeeFox. I'm not seeing the benefit of using that and/over KeePassX. Is it the fact that it ties into the Firefox browser? What do you do for other browsers then? From the site:

One of the great benefits of KeeFox over similar password managers is the link to KeePass which allows you to manage more than just web site passwords. For example, you could store PIN numbers, WiFi access codes, credit card details, secret notes and even small documents alongside your website passwords.

With the exception of small documents, you can do all of that with KeePassX. I also use KeePassX as a web site bookmark manager.

You can access your passwords on many different platforms including Mac, iPhone, BlackBerry, Windows Mobile, Android and Linux.

You can access your passwords using KeePassX on a Mac and Linux, and you can use similar smartphone apps that are able to use the kdbx format. You just need to keep your password database synced on all devices.

To each his/her own I guess...

D219 · 2017-07-07 10:09:38

@Krunchtime Yes, I only use KeeFox as a link between Firefox and KeePass. I don't use any other browser unless there is a really specific need, and I use syncthing to synchronise between my computers and my phone.

After investigating a bit more, I found out that I were mistaken by the KeePass error, the problem came from KeeFox. I installed a old version and now everything is working again, and I can patiently wait for the Helium release

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