#21 2017-06-14 06:37:39

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

OK, the only difference there is the IRQ number for the non-default card

In the live system, what does PulseAudio say about the available outputs?

pacmd list-sinks

@ector1935's suggestion is worth a try if you happen to have an installed system with PulseAudio still in place; it would be really useful to track down this failing.

In your qasmixer system (s12), have any module options been applied?

grep -R intel /etc/modprobe.d

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

Basically A Fresh start from here on!

OK, I have a BL-D install complete with Pulse Audio ... OOTB = No Sound

So I did what I did with ALSA and installed QasMixer.

Saw the the ever present [2ch] box was set and changed it to [6ch] and just about broke my eardrums with "Logan" playing in MPV @100% vol.  OUCH!

Anyone have any idea how to make these changes in PA without installing QasMixer?

Oh yes, works on the internet too!

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

OK, the only difference there is the IRQ number for the non-default card

In the live system, what does PulseAudio say about the available outputs?

pacmd list-sinks

Well, not in live, but here it is in s12 with PA installed and sound working because of post above.

 20 Jun 17 @ 21:50:35 ~
   $ pacmd list-sinks
2 sink(s) available.
  * index: 0
	name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_05.0.analog-stereo>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
	state: SUSPENDED
	suspend cause: IDLE 
	priority: 9959
	volume: front-left: 5841 /   9% / -63.00 dB,   front-right: 5841 /   9% / -63.00 dB
	        balance 0.00
	base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	volume steps: 65537
	muted: no
	current latency: 0.00 ms
	max request: 0 KiB
	max rewind: 0 KiB
	monitor source: 0
	sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
	channel map: front-left,front-right
	             Stereo
	used by: 0
	linked by: 0
	configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 371.52 ms
	card: 0 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_05.0>
	module: 6
	properties:
		alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
		device.api = "alsa"
		device.class = "sound"
		alsa.class = "generic"
		alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
		alsa.name = "VT1705 Analog"
		alsa.id = "VT1705 Analog"
		alsa.subdevice = "0"
		alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
		alsa.device = "0"
		alsa.card = "0"
		alsa.card_name = "HDA NVidia"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HDA NVidia at 0xfce78000 irq 22"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:05.0"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:05.0/sound/card0"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "10de"
		device.vendor.name = "NVIDIA Corporation"
		device.product.id = "03f0"
		device.product.name = "MCP61 High Definition Audio"
		device.form_factor = "internal"
		device.string = "front:0"
		device.buffering.buffer_size = "65536"
		device.buffering.fragment_size = "32768"
		device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
		device.profile.name = "analog-stereo"
		device.profile.description = "Analog Stereo"
		device.description = "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
		alsa.mixer_name = "VIA VT1705"
		alsa.components = "HDA:11064397,10192242,00100000"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	ports:
		analog-output: Analog Output (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-lineout: Line Out (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9000, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"
	active port: <analog-output>
    index: 1
	name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_02_00.1.hdmi-stereo>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	flags: HARDWARE DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
	state: SUSPENDED
	suspend cause: IDLE 
	priority: 9050
	volume: front-left: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB,   front-right: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	        balance 0.00
	base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	volume steps: 65537
	muted: no
	current latency: 0.00 ms
	max request: 0 KiB
	max rewind: 0 KiB
	monitor source: 2
	sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
	channel map: front-left,front-right
	             Stereo
	used by: 0
	linked by: 0
	configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 371.52 ms
	card: 1 <alsa_card.pci-0000_02_00.1>
	module: 7
	properties:
		alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
		device.api = "alsa"
		device.class = "sound"
		alsa.class = "generic"
		alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
		alsa.name = "HDMI 0"
		alsa.id = "HDMI 0"
		alsa.subdevice = "0"
		alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
		alsa.device = "3"
		alsa.card = "1"
		alsa.card_name = "HDA NVidia"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HDA NVidia at 0xfcf7c000 irq 19"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:02:00.1"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.0/0000:02:00.1/sound/card1"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "10de"
		device.vendor.name = "NVIDIA Corporation"
		device.product.id = "0be3"
		device.product.name = "High Definition Audio Controller"
		device.string = "hdmi:1"
		device.buffering.buffer_size = "65536"
		device.buffering.fragment_size = "32768"
		device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
		device.profile.name = "hdmi-stereo"
		device.profile.description = "Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
		device.description = "High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
		alsa.mixer_name = "Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP"
		alsa.components = "HDA:10de000b,10de0101,00100200"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	ports:
		hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority 5900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
	active port: <hdmi-output-0>
 
 20 Jun 17 @ 21:50:42 ~
   $ 

will post results from LIVE in a fresh post soon.

@ector1935's suggestion is worth a try if you happen to have an installed system with PulseAudio still in place; it would be really useful to track down this failing.

In your qasmixer system (s12), have any module options been applied?

grep -R intel /etc/modprobe.d

That I can do now and will probably be nothing because I'm all AMD and NVIDIA:

 20 Jun 17 @ 21:56:06 ~
   $ grep -R intel /etc/modprobe.d
 
 20 Jun 17 @ 21:56:13 ~
   $ 

/etc/modprobe.d/amd64-microcode-blacklist.conf
/etc/modprobe.d/fbdev-blacklist.conf
/etc/modprobe.d/intel-microcode-blacklist.conf
/etc/modprobe.d/libpisock9.conf
/etc/modprobe.d/modesetting.conf

 20 Jun 17 @ 22:05:20 ~
   $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/amd64-microcode-blacklist.conf &
[1] 14497
# The microcode module attempts to apply a microcode update when
# it autoloads.  This is not always safe, so we block it by default.
blacklist microcode
[1]+  Done                    cat /etc/modprobe.d/amd64-microcode-blacklist.conf
 
 20 Jun 17 @ 22:05:32 ~
   $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/fbdev-blacklist.conf &
[1] 14502
# This file blacklists most old-style PCI framebuffer drivers.

blacklist arkfb
blacklist aty128fb
blacklist atyfb
blacklist radeonfb
blacklist cirrusfb
blacklist cyber2000fb
blacklist kyrofb
blacklist matroxfb_base
blacklist mb862xxfb
blacklist neofb
blacklist pm2fb
blacklist pm3fb
blacklist s3fb
blacklist savagefb
blacklist sisfb
blacklist tdfxfb
blacklist tridentfb
blacklist vt8623fb
[1]+  Done                    cat /etc/modprobe.d/fbdev-blacklist.conf
 
 20 Jun 17 @ 22:05:32 ~
   $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/intel-microcode-blacklist.conf &
[1] 14507
# The microcode module attempts to apply a microcode update when
# it autoloads.  This is not always safe, so we block it by default.
blacklist microcode
[1]+  Done                    cat /etc/modprobe.d/intel-microcode-blacklist.conf
 
 20 Jun 17 @ 22:05:32 ~
   $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/libpisock9.conf &
[1] 14512
blacklist visor
[1]+  Done                    cat /etc/modprobe.d/libpisock9.conf
 
 20 Jun 17 @ 22:05:32 ~
   $ cat /etc/modprobe.d/modesetting.conf
options cirrus modeset=1
options mgag200 modeset=1
 
 20 Jun 17 @ 22:05:39 ~
   $ 

Does it help?

@ector1935's suggestion <<--- going there now.

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

OK, I looked at @ector1935's suggestion and things (I'm a noob) didn't feel right and I lost sound.  Rebooting brought back my sound.  Thank you QasMixer.

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

Saw the the ever present [2ch] box was set and changed it to [6ch] and just about broke my eardrums with "Logan" playing in MPV @100% vol.  OUCH!

Anyone have any idea how to make these changes in PA without installing QasMixer?

Please open up pavucontrol and select the second analogue card as the default output (in the "Output Devices" tab) to see if that produces sound.

I know that you said you tried that already but that does look to me to be the analogous option in pavucontrol — all you are doing with qasmixer is changing the default output device and that can be done with pavucontrol.

I suppose you could post some scrots of the configuration tab of pavucontrol and I could tell you which button to press, perhaps.

here it is in s12 with PA installed and sound working because of post above.

So sound works just fine in s12 with PulseAudio running [1] as long as you switch the output device?

If so then your sound issues have nothing to do with PA.

[1] check with `pgrep -a pulse`

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

Please open up pavucontrol and select the second analogue card as the default output (in the "Output Devices" tab) to see if that produces sound.

I know that you said you tried that already but that does look to me to be the analogous option in pavucontrol — all you are doing with qasmixer is changing the default output device and that can be done with pavucontrol.

I suppose you could post some scrots of the configuration tab of pavucontrol and I could tell you which button to press, perhaps.

OK, that isn't exactly true; as I see it.  Yes I changed cards to the second one, but what gave me sound was setting the channels to [6ch] vs [2ch].  [2ch] didn't work on either card [6ch] worked on both, but on the second it gave me stereo vs mono in the first card.  So the key is that [6ch] as seen here

Since this system (s12) had QasMixer that I had changed to [6ch], I just reset it to [2ch] and deleted QasMixer.  For test purposes.

NO SOUND so: pavucontrol

Let's see if we can do this without QasMixer since we KNOW sound is possible.

If so then your sound issues have nothing to do with PA.

check with `pgrep -a pulse`

That seems to be correct, I do have sound it's just that PA isn’t configured correctly.

pgrep -a pulse does nothing:

 21 Jun 17 @ 14:33:42 ~
   $ pgrep -a pulse
17949 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
 
 21 Jun 17 @ 14:33:52 ~
   $ 

Still no sound

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

I just need to see the output of `pacmd list-sinks` from the live system so I can compare it with the working version, this should show us how to use `pacmd` to make the change we need.

In the scrot above the HDMI output is selected, does the analogue output (the one at the top) work?

Also, how are your speakers connected?

Are you using the HDMI output from your soundcard or not?

EDIT:

pgrep -a pulse did nothing

No, it did exactly as it should and displayed the full name and flags of the process that matched the search term  8)

Your sound works fine with PA, you should probably apologise to Mr. Poettering for maligning his wonderful software for all these years  8o

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

I just need to see the output of `pacmd list-sinks` from the live system so I can compare it with the working version, this should show us how to use `pacmd` to make the change we need.

From the LIVE session:

2 sink(s) available.
  * index: 0
	name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_05.0.analog-stereo>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
	state: SUSPENDED
	suspend cause: IDLE 
	priority: 9959
	volume: front-left: 29274 /  45% / -21.00 dB,   front-right: 29274 /  45% / -21.00 dB
	        balance 0.00
	base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	volume steps: 65537
	muted: no
	current latency: 0.00 ms
	max request: 0 KiB
	max rewind: 0 KiB
	monitor source: 0
	sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
	channel map: front-left,front-right
	             Stereo
	used by: 0
	linked by: 0
	configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 371.52 ms
	card: 0 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_05.0>
	module: 6
	properties:
		alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
		device.api = "alsa"
		device.class = "sound"
		alsa.class = "generic"
		alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
		alsa.name = "VT1705 Analog"
		alsa.id = "VT1705 Analog"
		alsa.subdevice = "0"
		alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
		alsa.device = "0"
		alsa.card = "0"
		alsa.card_name = "HDA NVidia"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HDA NVidia at 0xfce78000 irq 22"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:05.0"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:05.0/sound/card0"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "10de"
		device.vendor.name = "NVIDIA Corporation"
		device.product.id = "03f0"
		device.product.name = "MCP61 High Definition Audio"
		device.form_factor = "internal"
		device.string = "front:0"
		device.buffering.buffer_size = "65536"
		device.buffering.fragment_size = "32768"
		device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
		device.profile.name = "analog-stereo"
		device.profile.description = "Analog Stereo"
		device.description = "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo"
		alsa.mixer_name = "VIA VT1705"
		alsa.components = "HDA:11064397,10192242,00100000"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	ports:
		analog-output: Analog Output (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-lineout: Line Out (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9000, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"
	active port: <analog-output>
    index: 1
	name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_02_00.1.hdmi-stereo>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	flags: HARDWARE DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY FLAT_VOLUME DYNAMIC_LATENCY
	state: SUSPENDED
	suspend cause: IDLE 
	priority: 9050
	volume: front-left: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB,   front-right: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	        balance 0.00
	base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	volume steps: 65537
	muted: no
	current latency: 0.00 ms
	max request: 0 KiB
	max rewind: 0 KiB
	monitor source: 2
	sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
	channel map: front-left,front-right
	             Stereo
	used by: 0
	linked by: 0
	configured latency: 0.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 371.52 ms
	card: 1 <alsa_card.pci-0000_02_00.1>
	module: 7
	properties:
		alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
		device.api = "alsa"
		device.class = "sound"
		alsa.class = "generic"
		alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
		alsa.name = "HDMI 0"
		alsa.id = "HDMI 0"
		alsa.subdevice = "0"
		alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
		alsa.device = "3"
		alsa.card = "1"
		alsa.card_name = "HDA NVidia"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HDA NVidia at 0xfcf7c000 irq 19"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:02:00.1"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:09.0/0000:02:00.1/sound/card1"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "10de"
		device.vendor.name = "NVIDIA Corporation"
		device.product.id = "0be3"
		device.product.name = "High Definition Audio Controller"
		device.string = "hdmi:1"
		device.buffering.buffer_size = "65536"
		device.buffering.fragment_size = "32768"
		device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
		device.profile.name = "hdmi-stereo"
		device.profile.description = "Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
		device.description = "High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
		alsa.mixer_name = "Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP"
		alsa.components = "HDA:10de000b,10de0101,00100200"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	ports:
		hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority 5900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
	active port: <hdmi-output-0>

In the scrot above the HDMI output is selected, does the analogue output (the one at the top) work?

If I recall correctly . yes - but in mono.  Remember, I don't have sound at the moment ... in QasMixer I put it back to [2ch] and deleted it, to do this properly.

Also, how are your speakers connected?

Speakers?  What speakers I have no speakers speakers are for ... Mr. Poettering  ... Sony Headphones here; 9mm jack into the  "pink" jack plugin.  For speakers though

Are you using the HDMI output from your soundcard or not?

no. 

EDIT:

pgrep -a pulse did nothing

No, it did exactly as it should and displayed the full name and flags of the process that matched the search term  8)

Well, obviously you can read alien jibberish better than I can.

Your sound works fine with PA, you should probably apologise to Mr. Poettering for maligning his wonderful software for all these years  8o

Yes right after we play a game ... you first: If you can hold your breath for 10 minutes I will apologise.

Last edited by Sector11 (2017-06-21 20:47:39)

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

I just need to see the output of `pacmd list-sinks` from the live system so I can compare it with the working version, this should show us how to use `pacmd` to make the change we need.

Well, so much for that theory — the outputs are identical 

Speakers?  What speakers I have no speakers speakers are for ... Mr. Poettering  ... Sony Headphones here; 9mm jack into the  "pink" jack plugin.  For speakers though

OK, this is the sort of thing that really needs to go in the OP.

Please describe the exact nature and layout of your sound system.

Bear in mind that I have never owned a desktop computer and I have no idea how one would extract sound from such a device so please explain things in as much detail as possible.

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Re: [Solved] No sound with Pulse Audio

^ Will do what I can give me time to research.
Headphone added to OP

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