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#1441 2017-06-03 20:03:10

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

^ Now that's good comedy, I don't care who you are.


No, he can't sleep on the floor. What do you think I'm yelling for?!!!

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#1442 2017-06-03 20:16:00

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hhh wrote:

Not sure if napping or reenacting the end of Reservoir Cats.

hhh wrote:

^ Now that's good comedy, I don't care who you are.

OH I GOTTA WATCH THAT!

"Pink sounds like ... " naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa watch it ...
Damn you Google, you know more about me than I do and you pull this do-do!
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{sigh} Now THAT'S NOT funny!


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#1443 2017-06-03 21:27:34

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Beautiful! I had no idea that parody existed.

Which, of course, makes my joke less funny. Damn you, Internet.


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#1444 2017-06-04 02:47:47

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Taken from here

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
BLizgreat! wrote:

Try as I might I simply can't and won't take Devuan seriously

That's OK BLizzle, I'm sure they don't take you seriously either tongue

lol lol I'm not sure if that's nice or not but it is funny.  smile

My thoughts are this:

=== BABBLE ALERT - BABBLE ALERT - BABBLE ALERT ===

In the beginning there was UNIX - and from that came: BSD.  Well, maybe not THE Beginning but very shortly after The Big Bang. No, not THAT Big Bang the Big Electronic Computer Bang, that beginning.

Time passes (or skip ahead in time) to the emergence of Richard Stallman with his GNU Project and a kernel that didn't work.

More time passes and Linus Torvalds gets into the game and we have a Linux kernel.  Stallman, of course thinks "Linux" is his but we know better.  Don't we, Ari Lemmke - tongue to you Stallman.  OK, that's not nice, sorry.

Again time passes ... and along comes Ian, with a girlfriend, Debra ... AHA! Debian - 1993

What's happened to Debian since then?

Well, Debian is the father to: Astra-Linux, Collax, Cumulus Linux, Damn Small Linux, Debian JP, DoudouLinux, Finnix, grml, Kanotix, KNOPPIX, LMDE, Ordissimo, Parsix GNU/Linux, aptosid, Ubuntu, Univention Corporate Server among others that have come and gone.  CrunchBang being one of them. Which brings us to a new signpost in the timeline: [You Are Here ==>] BunsedLabs, son of #! and grandson of Debian. Daughter of #! and granddaughter of Debian, to you ladies if you wish, I'm easy to get along with.

Now, lets back up a little, we all know who Lennart Poettering is, he's the one that gave us ... systemd, for those that don't know.  A lot of people didn't like 'sysd', and still don't like it, so some are fighting it.  I personally felt like it was being stuffed down our throats whether we liked it or not.  There wasn't - isn't a "freedom of choice" about it.  And isn't that what Linux about; "Freedom"?

Curious thing ... See way back there in my babblings, "In the beginning there was Unix and BSD".  Well, they didn't adopt systemd - so whose to say "Linux has to" {cough cough .. clearing throat}.

There are some, the Veteran Unix Admins collective (Franco Lanza, Denis Roio, Roger Leigh, Daniel Reurich) that say it doesn't have to be that way.  And they have set out to give us our choice again.

And lo and behold Debian becomes father to yet another Linux distribution: Devuan.

And we're here at this point of the continuing timeline to see it happen. I think that's pretty cool!
Tipping my hat to the Devuan Team.

Will Devuan succeed?
Will Devuan outlive Lennart Poettering?
Will Devuan become as popular as BunsenLabs?
Does Sector11 like systemd or not?
For the answer to these questions and more, tune in next {mumble mumble}, same Linux Time, same Linux Channel!


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#1445 2017-06-04 03:01:10

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

^ Jesus, what was that?

Not sure if napping or reenacting One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.


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#1446 2017-06-04 03:18:25

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

hahahahahah didn't want to take a tread off topic ... smile  Check the link at the top.
Felt like babbling after the news tonight.


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#1447 2017-06-04 19:01:07

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I think if it is just a matter of reengineering the several packages that were dependent on systemd and mirroring everything else, that Devuan should be doable and sustainable, and that Devuan 2 will probably release only a month or three behind Stretch.

They will remain a niche player, of course, but I think Devuan will be around for a few releases, anyway.


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#1448 2017-06-04 19:51:30

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

lolcat13.jpg


No, he can't sleep on the floor. What do you think I'm yelling for?!!!

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#1449 2017-06-06 11:44:38

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Sector11 wrote:

hahahahahah didn't want to take a tread off topic ... smile  Check the link at the top.
Felt like babbling after the news tonight.

Wait...isn't it already off topic big_smile


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#1450 2017-06-06 14:38:27

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

I have recently tried programming in Squeak Smalltalk (again - I have tried it several times over the years), then Scheme (Guile). I started becoming reasonably successful in Squeak, but it just isn't very satisfying, to me. They have piled so much junk (and it really is junk that they will tell you not to use, but they keep it so old things will continue working) into their class system, it is overwhelming. Not to mention the baggage of the VM that is always necessary in most Smalltalks.

I kind of like Scheme, but the functional paradigm is confusing to an old timer like me. I can create some nice functions that work perfectly, but I couldn't really figure out how to use them except by loading them and calling them within the interactive Guile "shell", for lack of a better term.

Yesterday, I decided to try Rust. So far, it looks like what I want. It is modern and fast. I completely understood their introductory tutorial. Then, I wrote my own program, and it creates an executable that I can call from the command line with input parameters. Rust seems to be both object-oriented and functional. It is also fully compiled, so it is very fast. I think I will continue learning this one.

Tim

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#1451 2017-06-07 06:27:22

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earlybird wrote:

GNOME shell feels pretty weird in comparison and lacks configurability

Funnily enough, I find that Plasma has far too many configuration options for my taste 8)

Does Plasma have a gsettings(1) equivalent?

I really like being able to configure GNOME from the shell (or a script).

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#1452 2017-06-07 17:50:33

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You know those funny stories about submitting a design draft for a product brochure using lorem ipsum as a placeholder for where the text will eventually go and the client gets back to you and says "Looks good, but do you have an English version?".... I had that happen to me today.

It isn't as funny as the stories claim. >_>

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#1453 2017-06-07 19:28:54

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lol ^ lol ^ lol Oh that's just too good!

It struck me as funny.


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#1454 2017-06-07 19:59:24

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Almost a years and a half old, but still:

Windows 10: Is it Really Worth Ditching Linux for?

We LabRats don't have a [Start] menu (OOTB) so we can skip that one, although it's a no anyway.

OK OK "might not be worth it" {picky picky}


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#1455 2017-06-09 16:11:43

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While scrolling down the page in another thread just a moment ago I thought I saw the word "poshbang". It was actually postbang in brontosaurusrex's sig. This is the kind of thing that one sees when not fully awake yet.

Anyways I almost thought I could hear a few old crunchbangers on the U.K. side of our membership chuckling at the thought of a fancy spinoff of crunchbang called poshbang.


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#1456 2017-06-09 16:17:36

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Anaconda wrote:

While scrolling down the page in another thread just a moment ago I thought I saw the word "poshbang". It was actually postbang in brontosaurusrex's sig. This is the kind of thing that one sees when not fully awake yet.

Anyways I almost thought I could hear a few old crunchbangers on the U.K. side of our membership chuckling at the thought of a fancy spinoff of crunchbang called poshbang.

Now that gave me a chuckle. Poshbang....sounds like a cool name for a distro!


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#1457 2017-06-09 16:19:41

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Sector11 wrote:

Almost a years and a half old, but still:

Windows 10: Is it Really Worth Ditching Linux for?

We LabRats don't have a [Start] menu (OOTB) so we can skip that one, although it's a no anyway.

OK OK "might not be worth it" {picky picky}

Sounds like now Microsoft is trying to get a full blown Linux distro to run within Windows and run Linux apps like a Windows one.


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#1458 2017-06-09 17:10:34

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

DeepDayze wrote:
Anaconda wrote:

While scrolling down the page in another thread just a moment ago I thought I saw the word "poshbang". It was actually postbang in brontosaurusrex's sig. This is the kind of thing that one sees when not fully awake yet.

Anyways I almost thought I could hear a few old crunchbangers on the U.K. side of our membership chuckling at the thought of a fancy spinoff of crunchbang called poshbang.

Now that gave me a chuckle. Poshbang....sounds like a cool name for a distro!

Yea, chuckling here too, so count that +1 but in the southern / western hemisphere.

Poshbang does sound nice.

Maybe we should have called Bunsen: PrequelBang

We would have been 'before' CrunchBang   yikes


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#1459 2017-06-09 17:14:05

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

DeepDayze wrote:

Sounds like now Microsoft is trying to get a full blown Linux distro to run within Windows and run Linux apps like a Windows one.

Yea, not sure if that's good though, with W10's keylogger.


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#1460 2017-06-09 17:24:08

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Re: Completely Off Topic Chat

Sector11 wrote:
DeepDayze wrote:

Sounds like now Microsoft is trying to get a full blown Linux distro to run within Windows and run Linux apps like a Windows one.

Yea, not sure if that's good though, with W10's keylogger.

Agree 100%. Can't trust MS true intentions really.


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