Where is Bunsenlabs going?

BLizgreat! · 2017-05-24 15:45:47

LMAO Sector.

Wth is happening to the contents of the #! forum ?!?! The thing is crumbling. Went back recently looking for the conkyrc's I'd posted there,(only took 2wks but) actually had a nice horizontal and vertical one back then. Think I found em and made copies just in case. The download links to the font I used/posted along with the one's to the Pizzadude bullet's and all the images, including mine GONE !

Stretch is coming with conky 1.10 now and the syntax has changed, conkyrc is now conky.conf ? Conky <shakes head, is not ... ???> has crossed my mind, who wants a blank desktop. Well I do, cause feh and backgrounds are also bloat, as are pixels and conky ... iz not*? Errrr.

Not that am saying go haywire or over-board but really do think some light-weight eyecandy couldn't hurt anything. As Titan suggested in link, perhaps even a community involvement or vote or whatever. Gonna be silent, I've had too much coffee, too little sleep and am running rampant with sideline quarterback input here.

Besides everybody knows that conky is .... not bloat.?

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Sector11 · 2017-05-24 17:04:36

Thought you'd get a tickle out of that.

Yea, I am not a fan of conky v1.10 or higher for various reasons the biggest is it "steals" the desktop space and doesn't allow right|centre|left clicking to get at menus. There's more but ....

I'm going to run conkyv1.9 for as long as I can and when stretch comes into being I'll put it on "hold".

But I can play with v1.10 it with a couple of simple "aliases" I have

### conky 10 to 9
alias c10-9='sudo apt-get autoremove --purge conky-all -y && sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends conky-all'
### conky 10 to 9
alias c9-10='sudo apt-get autoremove --purge conky-all -y && sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install --no-install-recommends conky-all'

I have downloaded the current "Debian" conky-all in prep for "Stretch"

/media/5/zip-tar-gz/DEBIAN/Conky-debs/conky-all_1.9.0-6_amd64.deb

mind you my {cough cough}archive{cough cough} goes all the way back to:

/media/5/zip-tar-gz/DEBIAN/Conky-debs/conky_1.6.0-2+lenny1_amd64.deb

and includes: conky-all, conky-std and conky-cli as well as amd64 and i386 versions
Oh yea, I have the "_1.10.0-1_" versions too

Yea, we have noticed what's what at #!, damo found a 'work around' but you have to be logged in, if you find a post that looks empty click on Quote, you'll see the contents of the post - but obviously can't post anything.

Now ... don't you dare tell my wife about the sample I just found:
click on Quote to see:
So sad.

While the search engine isn't working well if you are logged in you can go to your profile and click on:
Posts: 1,865 - Show all topics - Show all posts
PS: you have 2 pages of topics and 75 pages of posts.
To trim things down to your topics and posts.

BLizgreat! · 2017-05-24 18:11:58

LMAO AGAIN!

Yeah ... really see no reason someone couldn't opt to use an older version of conky for quite some time to come. Haven't "apt-cache show conky-all" to look at it's depends, blahblah. Shouldn't be much of any and those older versions should continue right on chugging along almost indefinitely me thinks.

Could also downgrade if wanted apt and aptitude both allow a person to specify a particular version to install. Obviously provided it's in a repo in sources etc. Errrrr or download the friggin .debs or whichever way someone prefers.

apt:
sudo apt-get install packagename=versionnumber

aptitude:
sudo aptitude install packagename=version

Thanks much Sector/Damo for the cool #! forum tip. How da hades Damo figured that one out, can't imagine. Have been thinking of visiting the stupe waybackmachine or seeing if google has #! forum cached somewhere, I know they do, they used to allow people to click on a link.

Often now even finding stuff I know is/was there and should come up with advanced search modifiers turns up weird/sketchy search returns.

As for conky, was thinking about it but the idea of sleepless dys screwing with it to get something I'd like the looks of makes my nose hairs curl. Guess I better ease my way into bloat (errrrrr conky's not ... errrr bloat). How about a background or maybe allow a few of those bloatish pixel things to creep onto my desktop ?

All joking aside, really should do something visually appealing to this desktop, if minimized everything and stared at it as is for a few hours, it's so bland. Would probably feel like super-gluing me eyeballs shut.

Cr&p sorry, thread jacking in progress. Is at least somewhat conky related and do think is #! legacy related. Corenominal had a legion of people who would've jumped at a chance to try to improve #! and he ignored them over and over. Do something better and different than #! did while retaining the good parts.

Those who ignore history, are doomed to repeat it kinda thing.

Arghhhh to be fair, it was his right to do so imo. It was his project and he was the one in the drivers seat. So that isn't meant as a slight towards him. Etc.

Think Corenominal had a very solid idea of what he wanted #! to be and stay and he was brooking no argument. Which hey, #!'s concepts, config and layout I totally believe are kickarse examples of what gnu/Linux can be. So Corenominal ... mission accomplished.

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shadowplay · 2017-05-24 20:15:24

This is an interesting thread.

What will BL look/feel like in 5 years? Will it have evolved its own set of customised (non upstream) config and management utilities, and evolved into something like (say) AntiX?

(OK, maybe AntiX is a bad example, given its systemd-less approach, but it has a suite of tools for config and admin that are AntiX-specific).

The unique selling point of BL must be its #! legacy. And that legacy must be summed up as a lightweight, bare-bones, text-based configurable Linux distro built on rock-solid (and standard) Debian Stable.

I hate to go all corporate, but maybe BL needs a mission statement :-)
[I can't believe that even crossed my mind!]

Or maybe a poll in this forum would be an idea to guage opinions?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-05-24 21:04:04

Poll: which is best?

[1] Plain text file configuration
[0] GUI clickbox overload

There's my vote 8o

damo · 2017-05-24 21:55:30

someone wrote:

Poll: which is best?
[1] Plain text file configuration
[1] GUI clickbox overload as well

Fixed it for ya

Sector11 · 2017-05-25 00:17:17

Poll: which is best?

[2] Plain text file configuration

[1] GUI clickbox overload <--- BOO! HISSS! MEOW! BOO!

EDIT:OOPS! damo snuck in there

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Sector11 · 2017-05-25 00:24:23

shadowplay wrote:

but maybe BL needs a mission statement :-)

We have one ... abate unofficial:

To boldly go where CruchBang was heading!

-- and also not heard of before this

shadowplay · 2017-05-25 16:34:31

Sector11 wrote:

To boldly go where CruchBang was heading!

LMAO! I'll organise the t-shirts :-)

Sector11 · 2017-05-25 19:58:51

I'll take two. with a wrap around image:

with a little touch of damo.

BLizgreat! · 2017-05-25 22:07:27

^ Nice.

BLizgreat! · 2017-05-25 22:09:54

Guess we'll and the world will find out where Bunsenlabs is going one day at a time. Nothing wrong with that eh. Hope it becomes as (or hopefully more)popular than #! was. As in many things, time will tell.

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dr1nkus · 2017-05-26 05:31:20

As a former #! 11 user (still have it Jessified in a 32-bit laptop) and a current BL user, I find #! a little bit less bloated in terms of pipe menus and install options thru obmenu.

Nevertheless, I always uninstall every piece of software I don't need manually, and then apt everything I need for everyday usage. I guess all of us do so.

Maybe I got too used to minimalism, but I'd suggest going for TUI/CLI programs like ranger or moc pre-installed (just for the sake of style).

Naik · 2017-05-26 11:43:10

^ sounds fun and i would appreciate it too, but one of the most greatest things about #!/BL is/was it`s OOTB experience which made id useable for even my mother in law without knowing anything about linux or debian. I don`t think this should be sacrified (for the sake of style).

naik --greetz

dr1nkus · 2017-05-31 21:34:47

Naik wrote:

I don`t think this should be sacrified (for the sake of style).

Yeah, maybe going TUI/CLI has turned into a need for me due to dated hardware... Anyways, it's always fun to optimize a distro, and BL is a great starting point.

Sector11 · 2017-05-31 23:00:41

I've mentioned this before in another thread. But since we have YAD ...

yad --color
yad --font
yad --calendar

OK, meant to be used in scripts blah blah but ... nice by them selves.
But [Alt+F2] and pop them in and "nice"

Alias shortcuts (I'm the tpyo king) and your selection is left in the terminal for: copy-past!

 31 May 17 @ 19:57:16 ~
   $ yfont

** (yad:21158): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
LCDMono Semi-Light 12
 
 31 May 17 @ 19:57:58 ~
   $ ycal

** (yad:21242): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
31/05/17
 
 31 May 17 @ 19:58:15 ~
   $ ycolor

** (yad:21263): WARNING **: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.a11y.Bus was not provided by any .service files
#3d80d3
 
 31 May 17 @ 19:58:34 ~
   $

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