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#1 2017-05-19 02:41:22

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FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

As rhe subject says: Firefox-ESR 45.9.0 is crashing a lot here lately.

Anyone else experiencing this problem?

  $ list firefox-esr
Alias for: apt list -a filename
Listing... Done
firefox-esr/stable,stable,now 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1 amd64 [installed]

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#2 2017-05-19 06:24:11

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

What is written to the logs during the crash?

There will be (red) messages with a simple backtrace if there are any core dumps, use `sudo journalctl -xe` to look for any after a crash.

Also, try running `reportbug` and see if there are any open issues about this.

EDIT: I will boot into my old BL Hydrogen system tonight and see if I can reproduce this but firefox-esr from experimental is working very well in my Diproton system:

empty@Diproton:~ $ apt-cache policy firefox-esr
firefox-esr:
  Installed: 52.1.0esr-1
  Candidate: 52.1.0esr-1
  Version table:
 *** 52.1.0esr-1 800
          1 https://deb.debian.org/debian experimental/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     45.9.0esr-1 500
        500 https://deb.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
empty@Diproton:~ $ reportbug

I can't remember the last time I had firefox actually crash on me in Debian.

EDIT2: why is this is Help & Support (Other)?

Is this in your sid-based system?

If so then try the firefox-esr version from experimental.

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#3 2017-05-19 13:08:55

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

about:crashes

Submitted Crash Reports

This application has not been configured to display crash reports. The preference breakpad.reportURL must be set.

{sigh}

reportbug?

RE: Edit 2 - moved.  I don't have a sid based system, just good old Bunsen.


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#4 2017-05-19 15:10:41

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

Ive not noticed anything wrong with Firefox myself, have been using it for nearly six months on my media center with no problems, bunsenlabs with all updates implemented.

Perhaps a website maybe causing the problem?

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#5 2017-05-19 15:39:42

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

No I don't think so it crashed here on Bunsen.  I probably tweaked something in about:config that was acceptable in Iceweasel that FF-ESR doesn't like.

Curious - what are your setting here: 

about:config > search: crash

browser.sessionstore.max_resumed_crashes	userset		0

toolkit.crashreporter.infoURL			userset		{blank}

Talk about feeling DUH!


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#6 2017-05-19 16:29:01

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

browser.sessionstore.max_resumed_crashes =  userset value = 1

toolkit.crashreporter.infoURL    = https://www.mozilla.org/legal/privacy/f … h-reporter

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#7 2017-05-19 17:33:12

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

Thank you.  I have the defaults set up.

Now I wait for the next crash...


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#8 2017-05-19 19:16:44

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

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#9 2017-05-19 21:35:17

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

Oh, didn't even know it was installed... next crash I'll try it.


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#10 2017-05-22 01:15:22

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

Sector11 wrote:

As rhe subject says: Firefox-ESR 45.9.0 is crashing a lot here lately.
Anyone else experiencing this problem?

  $ list firefox-esr
Alias for: apt list -a filename
Listing... Done
firefox-esr/stable,stable,now 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1 amd64 [installed]

OK here. I don't remember any time Fx or Iw crashed on me. (Thunderbird/Icedove now and then though.)

john@bunsen1:~$ apt list -a firefox-esr
Listing... Done
firefox-esr/stable,stable,now 45.9.0esr-1~deb8u1 amd64 [installed]

But I think HoaS is a much better advisor on where to go from here...


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#11 2017-05-22 02:04:46

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

Yea, it hasn't crashed since ... that why the edited title ... time will tell.


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#12 2017-05-24 01:57:31

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

johnraff wrote:

I don't remember any time Fx or Iw crashed on me.

That'll teach me to open my mouth. Firefox has totally frozen multiple times in the last couple of days. neutral

Sometimes the rest of the x-session works and I can use other things, bring up htop, kill Fx and carry on. Today the whole X session froze though, and I had to open a new tty and run 'killall firefox-esr' to fix it. Even zapping the firefox window with xkill left a cpu-consuming firefox-esr process running in the background.

It seems to be certain web pages that trigger it. I'll have to start disabling some of my numerous extensions to see if any of them are causing it...

EDIT: It seems to be noscript in my case. I'd like to be able to go on using that one. Some googling...

Last edited by johnraff (2017-05-24 02:26:11)


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#13 2017-05-24 02:41:19

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

Well, I'm not the only one, not that I'd wish it on anyone but  ...

I don't use noscript - tried it once and I heard nothing but bad stuff from my wife until I dumped it.  roll


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#14 2017-05-24 02:50:05

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

I wonder what would happen if I dumped FF-ESR and grabbed the "real deal" ??

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Warning for unexperienced Linux users: stick to the Firefox version included with your Linux distribution! Firefox can be installed or uninstalled through the package management system (Software Center, Software Manager, Synaptic, apt…) of all major distributions. Concerning updates: they will appear automatically in the package manager. It may take a few days after the official Firefox release for the update to show on, because the new release has to be tested with each distribution.

ESR sounds good.


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#15 2017-05-24 06:10:44

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

No issues on this end using FF-USR 45.9.0esr-1.  However, I don't use it exclusively.

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#16 2017-05-24 07:35:10

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

johnraff wrote:

Firefox has totally frozen multiple times in the last couple of days.

Are you using the backported version of systemd?

Can we see the output of:

coredumpctl

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#17 2017-05-24 08:30:19

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

^no, the regular Jessie version.

Since I disabled the XSS blocking in noscript the problem seems to have gone away, though it only appeared this week.

john@bunsen1:~$ coredumpctl
bash: coredumpctl: command not found

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#18 2017-05-26 04:26:31

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

Sector could try enabling the Mozilla backports repo and keeping FF updated via that method ? This kinda thing. Firefox-ESR 45.9.0 ? Why ? With FF at 53.0.3.

When comes to buggy/crashy FF, think the same ole steps could apply. That being setup a new profile for it. Could always setup a new one and migrate your bookmarks, via the old method or employing the FF sync thingy. Progressively disable/re-enable plugins to see if one of them is causing issues.

Personally have always run FF from a hidden directory stashed in ~/home and it's always remained my preferred way of doing it. Automatically updates as they come out directly from Mozilla on gnu/Linux just as it does for Window$ users. No lag or delay ... while Debian maintainers get around to putting it into repos. Just my preference, shrugs.

Note: I've got mine set to never check for updates but can do it manually via the FF menu > Help > About Firefox. You can also choose, check for updates but let me decide if x-nixer doesn't want FF updating automatically.

Could put up a how 2 on it but would need BL teams permission. Someday BL may decide to come out with a branded browser or reach some type of revenue agreement with xyz search provider and wouldn't want to step on toes as regards that.

Have always considered it rude or bad Nix netiquette to do so w/o authorization. Many distro's mess with the browsers. Brand them, this, that. ie: LM does. They get some passive search revenues out of the arrangement or something. Not that they're out of line me thinks.

Pointless btw: This is one of the examples was meaning with the stupid hope BL doesn't make the same mistakes #! did thing. When first came to #! it was iceweasel 3.5, put up with it for awhile and then said screw this. Fired up Google and figured out how to run FF on Debian Stable.

Then shared it and some related stuff so others could do so too. Can't help but wonder how many users checked out #!, said IW 3.5 wtf !?!? Then moved on to something else. note: At that time FF was at like v. 9. People reasonably enough want to have the latest web-browsers. Shrugs.

In other news, at least Debian finally conceded the stupe FF vs IW thing. Lol ... firefox-esr is in the repos on Stretch. big_smile Even if it's still 8 versions behind. Arghhhh ! Guess that's what backports are for, shrugs.

apt-cache policy firefox-esr
firefox-esr:
  Installed: 45.9.0esr-1
  Candidate: 45.9.0esr-1
  Version table:
*** 45.9.0esr-1 500
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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#19 2017-05-26 06:30:26

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

BLizgreat! wrote:

firefox-esr is in the repos on Stretch.

And Jessie, for that matter. The whole IW thing is over. OTOH, with the way recent versions of Fx are going, I'm quite happy to cling on to Debian's outdated version as long as possible, just getting the security updates.

On the freezes I was getting, it seems to have been the combination of Adblock Plus and Noscript. Replaced Adblock Plus with uBlock Origin and things are much better. smile

Extensions are definitely something to check.


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#20 2017-05-26 06:37:37

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Re: FF-ESR 45.9.0 Crashing ... [waiting for the next one]

^ Looks like there's a newer version for Jessie there, esr-52 ? Errrrr prefer my way, rather than all this repo fiddling stuff. Glad the Iceweasel/Firefox feud has been laid to rest too.

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