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#141 2017-05-09 01:22:19

johnraff
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Re: ISO building notes

(brushing aside the undergrowth...) So we're agreed to go ahead and release the isos as they are now? Sounds good.

However up-to-date they might be if we rebuilt them again now, they'd still need apt-get upgrading in a few days anyway. Good habit for new users to get into.


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#142 2017-05-09 01:29:41

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Re: ISO building notes

johnraff wrote:

Good habit for new users to get into.

Yup, and if they see it in the Welcome script using "apt-get" they just might be more inclined to try apt-get in a terminal vs the Synaptic Package Manager, (that I've deleted).


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#143 2017-05-09 01:43:19

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Re: ISO building notes

(I think Synaptic is handy for browsing packages, but for everyday tasks, apt-get & friends definitely.)


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#144 2017-05-09 02:27:52

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Re: ISO building notes

I use aptitude for that.

and all my apt stuff:

### APT-COMMANDS #######################
### conky 10 to 9
### ready for when v1.10 hits the repos:
alias c10to9='sudo apt-get autoremove --purge conky-all && sudo gdebi /media/5/zip-tar-gz/DEBIAN/Conky-debs/conky-all_1.9.0-6_amd64.deb'

alias up2='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends'
alias sup2='sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends --simulate'

alias get='sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends'
alias getr='sudo apt-get install'
alias sget='sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends --simulate'
alias sgetr='sudo apt-get install --simulate'

alias getbp='sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install --no-install-recommends'
alias sgetbp='sudo apt-get -t jessie-backports install --no-install-recommends --simulate'

alias rget='sudo apt-get install --reinstall --no-install-recommends'
alias srget='sudo apt-get install --reinstall --no-install-recommends --simulate'

alias remv='sudo apt-get remove --purge'
alias sremv='sudo apt-get remove --purge --simulate'

alias purg='sudo apt-get purge'
alias spurg='sudo apt-get purge --simulate'

alias orphn='sudo orphaner --purge'
alias orph='deborphan'
alias orphr='sudo deborphan | xargs sudo apt-get purge -y'
alias orphal='deborphan --guess-all'
alias orphalr='sudo deborphan --guess-all | xargs sudo apt-get purge -y'

alias upflash='echo "alias upflash = sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" && sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --install'

alias aremv='sudo apt-get autoremove --purge'
alias saremv='sudo apt-get autoremove --purge --simulate'
### OJO: EXTREME CAUTION using FORCE here: Use --simulate FIRST ###
alias sfget='sudo apt-get install -f --no-install-recommends --simulate'
alias fget='sudo apt-get install -f --no-install-recommends'

### HOLD UNHOLD AUTO MANUAL ###
alias hld='sudo apt-mark hold'
alias unhld='sudo apt-mark unhold'
alias shld='apt-mark showhold'
alias auto='sudo apt-mark auto'
alias manu='sudo apt-mark manual'

alias upd='sudo apt-get update'
alias supd='sudo apt-get update --simulate'

alias upg='sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends'
alias supg='sudo apt-get dist-upgrade --no-install-recommends --simulate'

alias bugs='apt-listbugs list'
### APT-COMMANDS #######################

I'm comphy with all that.  smile

BTW, you been on the Shiki-shima | JR-EAST yet?
Man oh man, what a trip that would be.  smile


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#145 2017-05-09 03:30:12

hhh
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Re: ISO building notes

> hhh, you're good at this stuff - feel like writing an announcement?

I can do it in the afternoon my time. I have tomorrow off, finally.


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#146 2017-05-09 03:31:43

hhh
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Re: ISO building notes

Otherwise, I'll just write something tomorrow and post it here. You can tweak it if you wish and post it when we're good to go.


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#147 2017-05-09 05:08:25

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Re: ISO building notes

^That sounds good.
(btw the first paragraph will go out on the RSS feed as a summary.)

Anyway, we have to update the web site first, so you could just link to the official download page: https://www.bunsenlabs.org/installation.html#downloads which will have the new files by the time the announcement goes out.

why not go ahead and update the download links right away - no harm if the official announcement goes out a day or two after that, is there?


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#148 2017-05-10 14:59:24

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Re: ISO building notes

Same here, busy with life!


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#149 2017-05-10 19:42:55

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Re: ISO building notes

THE RELEASE IS OUT!!!!!

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#150 2017-05-11 10:49:48

hhh
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Re: ISO building notes

I can post an announcement in about an hour and a half from now.

w00t!


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#151 2017-05-11 13:27:41

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Re: ISO building notes

Deuterium announced. Gents, please post more details in the thread, I am short on time today.

Word!


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#152 2017-05-11 15:10:57

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Re: ISO building notes

Does the new build report being "Deuterium" or "Hydrogen"?

I read where it's not necessary to install this if you are already running Bunsen, the DVD I just installedis: /media/10/BL_ISOs/live-image-amd64-170411.hybrid.iso

I did an update-upgrade on my daily run BL:

 11 May 17 @ 12:02:48 ~
  $ sf
            HC]         
          H]]]]         
        H]]]]]]4        
      @C]]]]]]]]*       
     @]]]]]]]]]]xd      
    @]]]]]]]]]]]]]d       sector11@bunsen
   0]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]      OS: BunsenLabs 8.7 bunsen-hydrogen
   kx]]]]]]x]]x]]]]]%     Kernel: x86_64 Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64
  #x]]]]]]]]]]]]]x]]]d    Uptime: 44m
  #]]]]]]qW  x]]x]]]]]4   Packages: 1892
  k]x]]xg     %x]]]]]]%   Shell: bash 4.3.30
  Wx]]]W       x]]]]]]]   Resolution: 1920x1080
  #]]]4         xx]]x]]   WM: OpenBox
   px]           ]]]]]x   WM Theme: S11-SR-71-Black
   Wx]           x]]x]]   GTK Theme: S11-NS-brushed [GTK2/3]
    &x           x]]]]    Icon Theme: nouveGnomeGray
     m           x]]]]    Font: Liberation Sans Bold 9
                 x]x]     CPU: AMD Athlon II X3 450 @ 3.2GHz
                 x]]]     GPU: GeForce 210
                ]]]]      RAM: 696MB / 5985MB
                x]x     
               x]q      
               ]g       
              q         
 
 11 May 17 @ 12:03:11 ~
  $ 

Still seeding.
64bit = Ratio: 2.5
i386 = Ratio: 0.8
i386-nonPAE =Ratio: 0.7


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#153 2017-05-11 16:59:59

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Re: ISO building notes

Hmmm yes, I recall that being said earlier. 

Personal opinion:  Name changes should only happen when "debian" changes.  Just a thought.


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#154 2017-05-11 18:27:58

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Re: ISO building notes

Sector11 wrote:

Personal opinion:  Name changes should only happen when "debian" changes.  Just a thought.

I think we have agreed to abandon the (rather cool) isotope names along with the point releases so that should indeed be the case in the future.

Anyway, I'm getting pretty tired of correcting <redacted> about the nomenclature...

roll

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#155 2017-05-11 20:16:36

hhh
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Re: ISO building notes

hhh wrote:

Deuterium announced. Gents, please post more details in the thread, I am short on time today.

Word!

I don't think we support Secure Boot, just UEFI? DEbian has pushed back Secure Boot support, even for Stretch.

I did silently edit the announcement in that respect. Please correct me if I'm wrong (but I don't think I am).

I stickied the thread.

I was hoping one of you guys that did the heavy lifting in this release would detail what is new and how to update.

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#156 2017-05-11 20:21:54

hhh
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Re: ISO building notes

thanks for updating https://www.bunsenlabs.org/news.html

The website looks incredible on my phone, I want to lick it. I love your content, especially the phrase "no limit to customization". smile And the slideshow rocks.


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#157 2017-05-11 20:27:16

hhh
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Re: ISO building notes

Continuing off topic, the feed to Planet Debian worked perfectly.


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#158 2017-05-11 20:36:35

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Re: ISO building notes

hhh wrote:

detail what is new

I think John covered that in the original release post:

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=3288

Perhaps just link to that in the OP?

and how to update.

I will add a note now.

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#159 2017-05-11 20:37:41

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Re: ISO building notes

OK did I miss something?  {probably}

Totally understand the idea of "not" renaming the repos with point releases it just makes more work for him and which is pretty dumb while we are still running "Hydrogen".  I didn't think that through a while back.  (Remember the lsb_release thing)

bl-Deuterium-amd64_20170429.iso isn't Debian v9 or "Stretch" it just an up to date release of BL Hydrogen so "New" people do not have to update 700± packages.

Am I wrong in that? {I'm feeling kind of silly right now}


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#160 2017-05-11 20:50:57

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Re: ISO building notes

Sector11 wrote:

bl-Deuterium-amd64_20170429.iso isn't Debian v9 or "Stretch" it just an up to date release of BL Hydrogen so "New" people do not have to update 700± packages.

Am I wrong in that? {I'm feeling kind of silly right now}

Well, some things have been changed apart from the newer packages, see John's post to which I linked above for a complete changelog.

So the Debian stable base remains but the BunsenLabs configuration has shifted.

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