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ratcheer · 2017-03-24 14:06:13

KrunchTime wrote:

@ratcheer: Well, if you want a really heavy DE, then run KDE.

Ummm, no thanks. I really dislike KDE. It still reminds me of MS Windows and it over-automates everything.

Tim

BLizgreat! · 2017-03-25 07:03:41

Alpine, Void, an old favorite revisited Slitaz. Though only vm's as yet. Finally broke down and installed Lmde 2 cinnamon version to hdd today and liking it a lot.

Ordinarily using a full DE would make my inner child puke/weep but it's time to live a lil and start checking out more gnu/Nix desktops.

Cinnamon is a pretty slick one imo. Though like everything LM I've seen, it's jammed full of layer upon layer of gui'ey stuff on top of the under-the-hood stuff and incredibly gnome-centric.

Still like it and LM. Purged sysvinit-core, enabled backports and installed the latest systemd packages from them. Will probably pin sid and get some select newer packages from that branch before long.

Will always <heart> #! and really glad the kickbutt nixers here picked up the banner to carry the concepts behind #! on. Am sure you guys/gals will do an even better job of it.

1 = Corenominal vs many = Bunsenlabs team. So next install planning on being BL gnu/Linux.

Vll!

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ratcheer · 2017-03-28 17:31:17

So, after a little less than two weeks with my new HP notebook, I wiped the partition table and reinstalled Fedora 25, because I wanted a single btrfs filesystem using most of the SSD, with a "flat layout" of subvolumes. The Fedora installation routine took care of swap, /boot, /boot/efi, all non-btrfs, with / and /home on a single btrfs in a flat configuration, automatically. Then I manually added a third subvolume for my snapshots. I had a little trouble getting my manually added subvolume to fit into the scheme, properly, but the nice folks on the btrfs freenode channel were helpful in getting me straightened out.

Aside from having to reconfigure everything, again, I am very happy with it.

Tim

PS - Now, I wish I had the flat layout on my long-term desktop system, but I'm damned if I want to try reinstalling and reconfiguring Arch Linux.

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dolly · 2017-03-31 15:57:04

Checking out ARCHLabs, not very adventurous I know. But damn it is nice! Congratulations Doobie03, an exciting alternative to BL.

Steve · 2017-04-02 11:41:40

dolly wrote:

Checking out ARCHLabs, not very adventurous I know. But damn it is nice! Congratulations Doobie03, an exciting alternative to BL.

I finally got around to checking this one out on bare metal. I like it but having some trouble with cryptsetup, would not recognise my luks encrypted extrenal drive where as BL will on two different machines???

Anyhow i will try and figure that one out, but in the meantime i went a bit crazy and decided to try and figure out multiboot on a single 500 gb hd.

Swap gave me a headache, but figured out that fstab needs the same uuid in all distro's and i couldnt figure out how to not make the debian installer not pick up the swap partition and give it to a new uuid?

So now i am running on 3 Linux distros on 3 partitions on my 7 year old toshiba laptop.....and the salesman said i should rent itand update in a years time.... bwahahaha

1.ARCHLabs
2.BLabs
3.Debian Stretch (lxqt de).

I would like to get some sort of screen dump or confirmation of this multiboot, can anyone let me know of a command to use or maybe a how to capture the grub boot menu apart from taking a picture of the computer screen? I just want to keep a memory of it lol.

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Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-04-02 13:36:52

Steve wrote:

Swap gave me a headache, but figured out that fstab needs the same uuid in all distro's and i couldnt figure out how to not make the debian installer not pick up the swap partition and give it to a new uuid?

In the partman section of the Debian installer, select the swap partition and choose the "Do not reformat" option

If your disk has a GUID partition table then you can simply remove the swap line from /etc/fstab and let systemd mount it automatically, it doesn't matter if it gets reformatted then.

On topic: I have lost my GNU/Linux laptop to a broken fan so I'm down to just OpenBSD at the moment.

I really should open up the broken one and try to fix it but I can't be bothered...

Also, OpenBSD is nice

MAC the Bloody · 2017-04-02 22:10:32

Downloaded the daily snapshot of Debian Testing late last night. Installed early this morning and selected the XFCE destop.

The first thing I noticed after booting it up was how fugly the default setup was. Choosing the whisker menu and the dusk theme fixed 90 plus percent of the fugly in a matter of seconds. Playing with the panels came next. I'm not to crazy about the default arrangement there either. Of course it's all so configurable that the default settings are kind of unimportant anyways. What matters is, how well does it all work.

So a few hours have gone by and I'm slowly tweaking more things to my liking and I can honestly say there have been no issues yet. Stretch seems pretty solid to me at this point. In fact it's so solid it's almost boring. Not much else I can say about it at this point.

Except this... Debian rocks!

No surprises there.

Steve · 2017-04-03 08:37:08

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Steve wrote:
Swap gave me a headache, but figured out that fstab needs the same uuid in all distro's and i couldnt figure out how to not make the debian installer not pick up the swap partition and give it to a new uuid?
In the partman section of the Debian installer, select the swap partition and choose the "Do not reformat" option
If your disk has a GUID partition table then you can simply remove the swap line from /etc/fstab and let systemd mount it automatically, it doesn't matter if it gets reformatted then.

Thanks Hoas, im pretty sure i didnt see 'do not reformat' i could be wrong though will check it out.

BLizgreat! · 2017-04-05 17:50:21

Just 2 cents, if such an option to skip formatting swap isn't in the installer. Would look and hope for an option to skip mounting swap in it altogether and just add it in fstab manually later.

As the mighty Hoas has been advising peeps, in distros using systemd, no need for a swap fstab entry at all. After he mentioned that removed swap from my installs, still mounts fine automatically.

Vll!

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BLizgreat! · 2017-04-12 02:13:57

Random babble that's sorta hop related. Am having a dandy time bunsifying Jessie (was using only xfce on it) and Lmde is now labidated too.

Hydrogen got me missing openbox. Lmde-cinnamon version, 64bit. Ootb memory stats were 350mbs at boot. After installing openbox and w a bunch of the standard gnu/nix tweakage I apply to anything gnu/nix I use, 152mb-ram,boot-time cut by 12secs.

Vll!

Btw: That app, dpkg-repack also works on nix in live session, installed it on Hydrogen running live w a deb. Then used it to make a bunch of debs from Hydrogen and installed them to Jessie and Lmde.

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johnraff · 2017-04-12 02:59:07

BLizgreat! wrote:

That app, dpkg-repack...

Didn't know that one - thanks!

BLizgreat! · 2017-04-12 03:23:32

^ Welcome Raff-san. It is cool, had already installed openbox but hadn't obconf and a bunch of gtk2 engines/themes etc, it came in handy transferring packages between compatible os's w/o Internet.

Hey John, you might like this too, if you haven't heard about it. Called apt-clone, haven't used it yet but looks cool.

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johnraff · 2017-04-12 06:05:09

Apt-clone does look better than that dpkg selection stuff. Note the version in Stretch has seen a lot of improvements over Jessie, and no extra dependencies. Might be easy to backport.

BLizgreat! · 2017-04-13 02:43:37

^Haven't really checked either out. Just think it's fricken amazing how much some open sourcer(s) have done. Seems like they've covered just about everything.

Am dorking with Stretch now, have gotten lazy and went w expert graphical install. Minimized mostly but hit the easy button and did go ahead and install xfce.

W/o unlimited high-speed, it's proving to be a real pita so far on all sides but of course that's mostly pebcak.

Will hopefully get it up to full potential someday. Hydrogen kicks all hades out of what I've got config'ed at this point. BL team did a great job.

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ratcheer · 2017-04-13 13:05:34

Yay! I have stopped distro hopping, again. I re-did the disk on my desktop system and gave the whole thing to Arch Linux. I re-did the disk on my new notebook PC and gave the whole thing to Fedora. These are two solid, leading edge, free (as in liberty) distros.

Life is much simpler, now. Instead of maintaining four or more distros, I'm devoting more time to re-learning programming. My main goal is Smalltalk. After I think I've settled into that, I plan to dive into Scheme/Guile.

Tim

BLizgreat! · 2017-04-13 20:55:27

^ Agree multiboot can get tedious. Long time ago settled on a max3 rule of thumb. Main OS, runner up(really like distro) and a partition for testing distros that look interesting.

Guess kvm and virtual box has rendered that 3rd mostly irrelevant but still prefer to see what a gnu/nix distro does bare-metal.

BL shot to top of runner up list, confirmed as kickbutt nixness. Got rid of Lmde, w/o web the over-configitis and gnomaxia Mint suffers was really getting on my nerves.

Which is nothing against LM, it's done for its target userbase and remains an overall kickbutt example of gnu/nix imo.

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BLizgreat! · 2017-04-15 07:47:08

Had to Stretchhhhh. Debian 9 64bit. Bunsadated of course with openbox, tint2-etc. Yep really liking it.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-04-16 10:00:34

Stuck in Windows this Easter weekend.

Decided to try the Wacom tablet with it, this works OOTB with both GNU/Linux and OpenBSD, genuine plug-and-play functionality from both operating systems.

For Windows, the driver disk supplied with the device failed to install because the Windows system hadn't been booted (and hence updated) for a while so one of the required .dlls was an old version.

It then took a day and a half to update the system to the point at which the drivers could be installed.

Nice.

ido · 2017-04-17 07:55:44

re: wacom

Over in this (topic), damo mentioned that extensive configuration was required
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=1443
so I'm wondering: Which model Wacom are you using? (morbid curiousity, I probably can't afford one)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-04-17 08:42:43

ido wrote:

Which model Wacom are you using?

It's the basic Intuos Draw model:

http://www.wacom.com/en-us/products/pen … ntuos-draw

There was no configuration required for BunsenLabs, I just plugged it in, checked `dmesg` and loaded up krita -- everything worked perfectly, including the pressure-sensitive brushes, and the shoulder buttons on the pen brought up the brush menu

If you can afford one, go ahead and buy it, they are very nice toys 8)

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