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Should have been Saturday - now Thursday - but here's a CD iso with all the above packages + galculator and gnumeric, total still just under 700MB.
(Thunar says 696.3MB, k3b and Google say 664MB, 'stat --format=%s' says 696254464)
Tested live & install in VB, burnt to a CD and installed on a laptop.
Seems OK but please check it out:
sha256:9427383af0a3e53467e2360dd59b1f3a9af4f3de0357632f9e969370295e4494
live-image-i386-CD9.hybrid.iso
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7BNzo … sp=sharing
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Isn't our current ISO 674M? Or is this a standard-sized image?
Downloading now. I assume this will fit on a CD, or John wouldn't have posted it. My bad!
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Now that I'm running stretch, I can point the live-build config to jessie and build with EFI support? That's what I would assume, but correct me if I'm wrong.
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Now that I'm running stretch, I can point the live-build config to jessie and build with EFI support? That's what I would assume, but correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes, that's what I did to make the current release candidate isos, but you have to tweak a few things in the config, compared with building on Jessie.
The bl-hydrogen-trunk directory is up to date in each case, but, sorry, I haven't yet updated the CD configs, because my local settings have been changing several times a day...
That CD iso is the 9th build to date, and I'm still considering tweaking bunsen-welcome (increase the wait time after the non-pae-kernel message) and doing one more build, also incorporating the result of any feedback.
EDIT: I'm assuming there would be no point whatsoever in having EFI support on the CD image, right? It adds some megabytes.
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Didn't have time yesterday to post details of that CD iso, but after adding:
btrfs-tools
gvfs-fuse
modemmanager
smartmontools
usb-modeswitch
usbutils
+
hardinfo
the iso size went up from from 672.1 to 676.3 (by Thunar) up ~4MB for ~11MB of packages, so we can assume a rule-of-thumb that squashfs takes the system size down to ~0.4.
There was still free space, so I thought to try adding fonts-droid, to get our default graphics appearance back.
That took the iso up to 682.6 for a 15MB package, but there's still slack, so then added galculator and gnumeric to fill in two empty menu items. Now at 696.3.
(Also fixing some small bugs & typos.)
Current difference from the full-size install:
Removed:
anacron
aptitude
apt-xapian-index
arj
at-spi2-core
bash-completion
catfish
fbxkb
feh
filezilla
fonts-cantarell
fonts-dejavu
fonts-inconsolata
ftp
ghostscript
gigolo
gsimplecal
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
gstreamer1.0-libav
gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad
gstreamer1.0-plugins-base
gstreamer1.0-plugins-good
gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly
gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio
hddtemp
hdparm
hexchat
libreoffice-writer
lm-sensors
lzop
python-keybinder
python-notify
rpl
rzip
thunar-media-tags-plugin
transmission-gtk
unace
unalz
xfburn
xinput
xsel
Replaced:
geany > leafpad
vlc > mpv
terminator > xfce4-terminal
And added:
hardinfo
I added a hardinfo entry to the menu under "Accessories". Are we going to put hardinfo in the default install? If so I'll add it to the various package lists and add that menu item to the next upgrade of bunsen-configs.
Do those additions (ie putting-backs) look OK?
I'd still like to do one more build (at least ) to improve the bl-welcome "add pae kernel" section, where the notification goes by too fast, so there's still time to make some other changes, but I think this is almost ready to publicly release, unless one of you uncovers a snag.
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I should be able to install build CD9 tomorrow. I ran it live for a few minutes today and it looked great! Cosmetics... one unneeded line break near the end of the new welcome popup. There's a Welcome! entry at the top of the root menu, that disappears when you install it, I'm guessing? Cool!
I'd vote yes on adding hard-info unless there's something more useful we could add. What did Imbecil request many months ago?
No rush on updating all your config online, I don't have access to a stable enough net connection to run live-build.
Great work, John!
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one unneeded line break near the end of the new welcome popup.
There are hard linebreaks all the way down that file, in fact. Where did you mean? Can we just have long lines and let yad fold them to fit the window?
There's a Welcome! entry at the top of the root menu, that disappears when you install it, I'm guessing?
Yes. We can make any temporary changes we want for the live session via the bunsen-configs-live package. (only for iso-building, not in the regular repos)
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Here's the config for that CD9 iso build: https://kernel.bunsenlabs.org/BunsenLab … ydrogen-CD
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hhh wrote:one unneeded line break near the end of the new welcome popup.
There are hard linebreaks all the way down that file, in fact. Where did you mean?
After "... choose to pick and choose... you can edit< br />" On my 1280x800 screen that's the only break that stuck out.
Can we just have long lines and let yad fold them to fit the window?
Please, if that's how yad will handle it.
I installed it today using a local library wifi connection that requires a ToS aggrement, which is to say there was no connection at all during the install. I just had to skip the Internet and mirror config sections, reboot, add a source and update and I was good to go. Take that, Arch! (I'm teasing Matthew, I'm sure he has a 18-step command line solution to that. )
I'll give it a looksy now and post back...
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It's fucking brilliant.
LXDE as easy to setup? Go fuck yourself, Jessie, you idiot.
mpv-wrapper, I was not expecting that when I hit Super+m, fucking brilliant. I dropped Big Bunny mp4, avi and mov into it, they all played with sound.
I wish we had an updated bl-exit that wasn't so huge, that's my only criticism.
Please post this for public testing! Also, have there been any bugs reported on the other 2 EFI images? Polish these up as you see fit, John and release them if The Team also gives their blessings. Damn, I get a kick every time I fire up the Live ISO, it is that much more polished than ANY of the official Debian images, in my admittedly biased opinion.
Oh yeah, 110M RAM at boot out of 1.88G using the 686 kernel, according to conky. Suh-WEEEET!
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Thank you for those kind words!
Of course it is based, first on your work, then incorporating input from the community. (eg the bl-mpv wrapper.)
I wish we had an updated bl-exit that wasn't so huge, that's my only criticism.
Agreed. But, we have damo's nice small config - let's throw that into bunsen-configs and ship it with all the isos! Would there be an outcry from the large-exit lovers?
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...damo's nice small config - let's throw that into bunsen-configs and ship it with all the isos!
Not quite so simple unfortunately. The icons would have to be packaged with bunsen-utilities, for consistency, and most of all, the width is defined by:
# windowWidthAdjustment - subtract this number from monitor width to get window width
windowWidthAdjustment=1600
So it's hard to get a small dialog box that would work reliably over a range of display sizes. Ultimately, I think we should rewrite bl-exit a bit to make sizing more flexible, but that sounds like something for Helium perhaps?
Meanwhile, can we assume that the minimum screen width a BL user is likely to have would be 1024px?
The smallest usable exit box width with the stock 100px icons seems to be 540px, implying a windowWidthAdjustment of 484.
On my 1440x900 display here's a 540 width with the minimum possible 100px height:
And here's what bl-exit would look like on 1440x900 with windowWidthAdjustment=484:
Of course people with wider displays will get a more horizontally stretched exit, but still smaller that the current fullscreen.
OTOH if we keep the height at the current 150px, then the 540px box that a 1024px display gets is too high.
Compromize at dialogHeight=130 ? That would give a box like this for a 1024 width display:
And for a 1440 width display (956px dialogue box):
All this is by editing one file bl-exitrc which we'd have to add to the config files in skel. We could get a smaller box using damo's icons but that would complicate the installation, and still not be ideal for all display widths.
Maybe go with:
dialogHeight=130
overallOpacity=80
buttonSpacing=0
iconpath=/usr/share/images/bunsen/exit/dark
windowWidthAdjustment=484
for now?
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^ I think that's a perfectly reasonable compromise (180x484). @damo, are you ok with that?
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Remembered the 686 kernel installation and your right, John... it's a 2-part message but the first part disappears almost instantly.
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Sorry, phone-posting typo... 130x484 for bl-exit
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I think a reduced width exit box is a must, so this compromise looks OK to me. The regular bl-exit icons should be fine - I just made svgs to see if I could get them to resize with the box, but that isn't a trivial code change it seems.
It would be preferable to have the sizing as a screen percentage rather than hard-coded px, but again that means a major re-write I imagine.
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+1 to percentage, but that can wait IMO. This compromise looks good. As I've said, and I think we all agree, UEFI support ASAP.
Thanks for the detailed post, John. Scrots FTW!
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https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 842#p47842
*cough* Shit, this isn't too much extra work, is it? Add the libreoffice-gtk package in the standard images and do whatever with the CD ISO menu (either leave it as-is or have the script install the gtk package too)?
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Just to add libreoffice-gtk to the standard install list would be trivial. I was planning to rebuild those isos one (final?) time anyway.
Libreoffice isn't on the CD iso at all - it's much too big. The LO metapackage (installed via bl-welcome or LO pipemenu) already brings in libreoffice-gtk, but the libreoffice pipemenu entries for individual LO components don't. Can we leave rewriting the pipemenu to a separate upgrade of bunsen-pipemenus maybe?
About EFI: am I right in assuming the possibility of the existence of computers that can only boot from a CD, but require EFI, is close to zero?
ie the CD iso doesn't need EFI?
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130x484 for bl-exit
Just to be clear: 130 is the height, but 484 is the windowWidthAdjustment. This is a number which is subtracted from the display width to determine the dialogue box width. That's why with a small display we can't subtract too much! Likewise, with wide displays we end up with a rather too wide exit box. (I think windowWidthAdjustment was originally conceived as defining a smallish margin in from the screen edge.)
Anyway, a compromise, but the best we can do till that part of the python is rewritten to allow percentages, or at least just to be able to specify the box dimensions directly.
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