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#1 2017-01-26 20:55:55

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How to update the kernel bunselab???

Hello guys
I made the last update of the distro bunsenlab 8.7 but I noticed that the kernel is left to 3.16.0-4 amd64-version ...
question ....

1- how do I update it?
2- on the same hd you also Win10pro, after the upgrade could create me problems with GRUB?

Thanks so much  wink


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#2 2017-01-26 20:57:14

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=1257

EDIT: in answer to your second question: no, I don't think so, it should be fine.

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#3 2017-01-26 21:01:18

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

Also, please do not change the kernel to the jessie-backports version unless something is not working and you know that the backported kernel will fix it.

I do not recommend using the jessie-backports kernel unless you have a specific reason.

I would recommend sticking to the 3.16 kernel if at all possible, it is a better option than the 4.9 (or whatever) version and is *much* less likely to break after updates.

Any kernel fixes & updates will be applied with the usual `apt update && apt upgrade` if the standard kernel is used wink

See also https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian … f_Syndrome


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#4 2017-01-26 21:04:00

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

fvirgola80 wrote:

Hello guys
I made the last update of the distro bunsenlab 8.7 but I noticed that the kernel is left to 3.16.0-4 amd64-version ...
question ....

1- how do I update it?
2- on the same hd you also Win10pro, after the upgrade could create me problems with GRUB?

Thanks so much  wink

That kernel version is what is available for Debian Stable/Bunsenlabs, and is what you would expect from an upgrade/dist-upgrade of your Stable system. Use @HoaS's HowTo if you want a newer kernel for some reason.


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#5 2017-01-26 21:07:30

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

Thank you very much big_smile  wink


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#6 2017-03-11 08:35:23

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

-Mod edit- BunsenLabs does not recommend the following GUI method for upgrading kernels. Please see the next 2 posts for an explanation. hhh

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no problem :  http://www.teejeetech.in/p/ukuu-kernel- … ility.html  profit:

qwert@localhost:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: localhost Kernel: 4.10.1-041001-generic i686 (32 bit gcc: 6.2.0) 
           Desktop: Openbox 3.5.2 Distro: BunsenLabs 8.7 bunsen-hydrogen 
Machine:   Mobo: ASUSTeK model: W6A v: 1.0
           Bios: American Megatrends v: 201 date: 07/27/2005
CPU:       Single core Intel Pentium M (-UP-) cache: 2048 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2) bmips: 3457 clocked at 1729 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1280x800@59.81hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller 
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.10.1-041001-generic
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
           driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: d800 bus-ID: 01:04.0
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network Connection
           driver: ipw2200 v: 1.2.2kmprq bus-ID: 01:05.0
           IF: eth1 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 60.0GB (24.3% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: HTS541060G9AT00 size: 60.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 25G used: 6.2G (27%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
           ID-2: /home size: 30G used: 5.9G (21%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 0.39GB used: 0.05GB (12%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram0 
           ID-4: swap-2 size: 0.39GB used: 0.05GB (12%) fs: swap dev: /dev/zram1 
           ID-5: swap-3 size: 1.05GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 71.0C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 169 Uptime: 1:23 Memory: 529.3/982.9MB 
           Init: systemd Gcc sys: 4.9.2 Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.1.28 

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#7 2017-03-11 10:06:51

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

I do not recommend installing Ubuntu kernels in a BunsenLabs system, use the jessie-backports kernel instead if needed.

For a more up-to-date kernel that is updated more frequently than the jessie-backports version, try the backported Liquorix kernels available from MX15 or forum member @stevep — these are completely compatible with BunsenLabs and will not cause problems with custom kernel modules and suchlike, as will be encountered with an Ubuntu kernel.


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#8 2017-03-11 10:48:46

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

^Not to mention that Ukuu is a 3rd party Ubuntu utility which BL hasn't tested.

Sorry if this isn't the warmest welcome, @qwertKI, but users whose first post recommends untested methods is a red flag.

Feel free to continue posting here. wink

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#9 2017-03-29 17:41:29

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

I have a question.

If the BL kernel is working what's the big deal with upgrading it?

It's probably very similar to my brain, I'm only using it at 'about' 10% capacity, but it still does what I want it to and more than I need it to do and I have no idea about all the things it can do.

Re the 10%:  Yea yea, urban myth but in my case .... big_smile


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#10 2017-03-29 18:12:09

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

Sector11 wrote:

I have a question.

If the BL kernel is working what's the big deal with upgrading it?

It's probably very similar to my brain, I'm only using it at 'about' 10% capacity, but it still does what I want it to and more than I need it to do and I have no idea about all the things it can do.

Re the 10%:  Yea yea, urban myth but in my case .... big_smile

My philosophy as well... to sum up your words simply sector11, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Of course if you need the additional binaries, and functionality of newer kernel support then that's a different story..


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#11 2017-03-29 18:50:25

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

Sector11 wrote:

If the BL kernel is working what's the big deal with upgrading it?

Unfortunately, some users appear to be afflicted with versionitis and will not accept any old packages roll

The stock kernel is always the best option (as long as the hardware is supported), the backported kernel significantly increases the chances of security vulnerabilities and general bugs & b0rkage.

https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian … f_Syndrome


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#12 2017-03-29 19:13:13

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Re: How to update the kernel bunselab???

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Sector11 wrote:

If the BL kernel is working what's the big deal with upgrading it?

Unfortunately, some users appear to be afflicted with versionitis and will not accept any old packages roll

The stock kernel is always the best option (as long as the hardware is supported), the backported kernel significantly increases the chances of security vulnerabilities and general bugs & b0rkage.

https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian … f_Syndrome

Not to turn this into a talking thread, but you know when I first was introduced to Linux/Debian I was sort of baffled by the whole Debian Stable using an older kernel and that really confused me. I of course wanted the latest and greatest!
How far I've come (I hope.... sad  )  I honestly wouldn't want to run testing/experimental. I really enjoy the warm safety blanket that is Debian Stable. And if I take it upon myself to install something from testing, it's on me. But I like knowing that my sources are vetted, tested, and not going to lend themselves to borkage... I can do that easily enough myself!


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