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#21 2015-10-21 17:54:12

tranjeeshan
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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

damo wrote:
tranjeeshan wrote:

Another problem is, every time I log into the system, I'm prompted with a message that says, "Xfce4 Power Settings Manager is not running. Do you want to launch it now?"
N.B.: I added xfce4-power-settings-manager in my openbox autostart file.

Should it be

## Enable power management
xfce4-power-manager &

Previously I had xfce4-power-manager-settings in the autostart file. What's the difference between these two (xfce4-power-manager and xfce4-power-manager-settings)?


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#22 2015-10-21 18:14:41

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

tranjeeshan wrote:

Previously I had xfce4-power-manager-settings in the autostart file. What's the difference between these two (xfce4-power-manager and xfce4-power-manager-settings)?

Run the commands and see tongue One is the power manager, the other is the gui for the settings.


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#23 2015-10-21 18:16:48

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

Settings is settings, not a manager, right?
One is a manager, and the other is the manager's settings.

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#24 2015-10-22 14:43:51

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

damo wrote:
tranjeeshan wrote:

Previously I had xfce4-power-manager-settings in the autostart file. What's the difference between these two (xfce4-power-manager and xfce4-power-manager-settings)?

Run the commands and see tongue One is the power manager, the other is the gui for the settings.

Got it smile


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#25 2015-10-22 14:45:12

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

I think I can now mark it solved.


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#26 2015-10-23 13:20:52

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

Though I tagged this topic as solved, I have another question in mind. I think I don't need to create a separate thread for this topic. What are the possible alternatives for xfce4-power-manager to be used with openbox? The alternative one would preferable portable, modular and can be configured using plain text?


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#27 2015-10-23 16:33:03

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

tranjeeshan wrote:

What are the possible alternatives for xfce4-power-manager to be used with openbox?

what functionality do you require?
most of it can be achieved with X (try "man xset", or just "xset" or "xset q").
systemd has basic power managing capabilities.
the only thing you need is something to monitor your battery status and take action once it hits a low threshold.
a simple cronjob/systemd service/shellscript can do that.

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#28 2015-10-23 17:17:01

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

ohnonot wrote:
tranjeeshan wrote:

What are the possible alternatives for xfce4-power-manager to be used with openbox?

what functionality do you require?
most of it can be achieved with X (try "man xset", or just "xset" or "xset q").
systemd has basic power managing capabilities.
the only thing you need is something to monitor your battery status and take action once it hits a low threshold.
a simple cronjob/systemd service/shellscript can do that.

A basic tool with good power management would do the job for me. I have heard about pm-utils and acpid. Any thought about these tools? or others?


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#29 2015-10-23 21:31:49

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

tranjeeshan wrote:

A basic tool with good power management would do the job for me.

What do you mean by "power management"?

What *exactly* is it you wish the replacement program to do?

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#30 2015-10-23 21:53:28

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

ohnonot wrote:

what functionality do you require?
most of it can be achieved with X (try "man xset", or just "xset" or "xset q").
systemd has basic power managing capabilities.
the only extra thing you need is something to monitor your battery status and take action once it hits a low threshold.
a simple cronjob/systemd service/shellscript can do that.

tranjeeshan, look at the functionality that xfce4-power-manager provides.
apart from the fancy gui and a systray icon and notifications, it's not much. now compare that to Xorg's or systemd's inbuilt power management capabilities, you will understand why i highlighted that sentence above.

now, if you say: "i have a laptop, and i want that magical app that recognizes my hardware automatically, will always know exactly when to hibernate or spin down my hard drives and will increase my battery life by 20%" - that's a different story altogether.

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#31 2015-10-24 05:09:57

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
tranjeeshan wrote:

A basic tool with good power management would do the job for me.

What do you mean by "power management"?

What *exactly* is it you wish the replacement program to do?

As a matter of fact, I'm quite happy with xfce4-power-manager. I just wanted to check whether any power management utility is available that can be configured with plain text. That's all.


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#32 2015-10-24 05:11:57

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Re: [S] Black screen after opening laptop lid in Debian 8 jessie 'openbox'

ohnonot wrote:
ohnonot wrote:

what functionality do you require?
most of it can be achieved with X (try "man xset", or just "xset" or "xset q").
systemd has basic power managing capabilities.
the only extra thing you need is something to monitor your battery status and take action once it hits a low threshold.
a simple cronjob/systemd service/shellscript can do that.

tranjeeshan, look at the functionality that xfce4-power-manager provides.
apart from the fancy gui and a systray icon and notifications, it's not much. now compare that to Xorg's or systemd's inbuilt power management capabilities, you will understand why i highlighted that sentence above.

now, if you say: "i have a laptop, and i want that magical app that recognizes my hardware automatically, will always know exactly when to hibernate or spin down my hard drives and will increase my battery life by 20%" - that's a different story altogether.

Ha ha ha!I got my answer. I'll tinker with xfce4-power-manager for now. Thanks. smile


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