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#51 2015-10-20 16:16:17

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Re: Distro Hopping

^ Very funny!

Read this sign ^.
It was for snap & titan, and about Lxqt with Kwin, not KDE with Kwin. I am just curious. I find Lxqt as from Windows 95 era.

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#52 2015-10-20 18:08:50

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Mostly what nore said if you want those bells and wistles from it.

@ ostrolek: I don't have a system with kwin ATM, sorry. My main HD went downshouth due to a rootkit like a month ago and switched to fluxbox. But I was using SolydK as my main system for more than a year. Properly configured and forgeting about the bling, It's as fast and snappy as any other typical WM. Set it to instant and no animations in kwin preferences and it will fly. What I like about kwin then? No tearing, instant expose, hot corners, pseudo-tiling, tabbing, grouping, setting windows to specific positions, displays or workspaces, etc... but this is the area where xfwm4 is catching up more and more being lighter on resources. As of today, I still prefer kwin, but xfwm4 is almost there.

PS, I'm takling about kwin 4 (jessie). Haven't got any satisfying experience with KF5 or kwin5 yet. As I've said before, now the transition is almost (?) complete. Maybe it's time to give Kwin 5 another chance.

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#53 2015-10-20 18:47:24

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^ Okay, no problem pal. Btw, could you tell us what happened with that rootkit attack?

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#54 2015-10-20 19:47:00

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#55 2015-10-20 20:02:25

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Thanks pal!
I find some known names there.

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#56 2015-10-21 11:34:35

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Having had a bit more time with Xfwm4, I think it is a bit more polished than OB, Guis are clean and have access to all the gtk themes. However I thought I may have been a bit hasty with kwin so I reinstalled it along with systemsettings, below are the apt-cache sizes for comparison.

Package: kwin-x11
Source: kwin
Version: 4:5.4.2-1
Installed-Size: 75

Package: systemsettings
Version: 4:5.4.2-1
Installed-Size: 1173

Package: xfwm4
Version: 4.12.3-1
Installed-Size: 2980

Package: xfce4-settings
Version: 4.12.0-2
Installed-Size: 3140

Package: openbox
Version: 3.6.1-2
Installed-Size: 1206


Despite not wanting to like the bling of kwin it is actually quite good and seems faster than when I last used KDE some years ago. I have integrated graphics with a cheap Intel i3 cpu and Kwin is still fast.The themes are basic as installed nothing like the options of OB or Xfwm4. I think I will give it a run out for a while. I don't know a screen shot is going to show anything different than what is available on youtube. It is just Kwin ported to Qt5 and a lot of dependencies removed.

edit to add OB size

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#57 2015-10-21 14:29:14

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You cannot just install one package kwin-x11, but there'd be another 195 packages to installed, and those would take about 220 MB of disk space, so it is the largest of the lot.

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#58 2015-10-21 15:03:36

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ostrolek wrote:

You cannot just install one package kwin-x11, but there'd be another 195 packages to installed, and those would take about 220 MB of disk space, so it is the largest of the lot.

Is that with or without --no-install-recommends?


Using the Openbox (3.5.2) session of Lubuntu 14.04 LTS but very interested in BL :)

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#59 2015-10-21 19:21:54

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Well this thread started as a Gentoo query and seems to have drifted to the relative merits of xfcewm & kwin with no interest shown by the OP.

I'm going to go ahead and close this one.


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#60 2015-10-21 20:14:40

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@HoaS, really? The title is Distro Hopping and it's a carry-over from #!'s Distro Hopper's Thread. Reopening.

I'll post a little about Android x86 later today. smile

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#61 2015-10-21 21:35:26

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vasa1 wrote:
ostrolek wrote:

You cannot just install one package kwin-x11, but there'd be another 195 packages to installed, and those would take about 220 MB of disk space, so it is the largest of the lot.

Is that with or without --no-install-recommends?

Try installing in your Lubuntu and see, if there is a difference. Also, if you are able to install just kwin-x11, check whether you can get anything working with kwin.

KWin (pronounced as one syllable "kwin") is the window
manager for the KDE Plasma Desktop. It gives you complete
control over your windows, making sure they're not in the way
but aid you in your task. It paints the window decoration,
the bar on top of every window with (configurable) buttons
like close, maximize and minimize. It also handles placing
of windows and switching between them.

This package is part of the KDE base workspace module.

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#62 2015-10-21 21:38:43

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Re: Distro Hopping

I fully expected this thread to wander all over the place, the intention starting it was that others might continue with other queries or observations, related to <insert distro> never meant it to be a Gentoo thread specifically.  There was no "Distro hoppers anon." thread on the board at the time.

But thanks for the opinions offered early on, what I actually decided, was not to decide, and trying it both ways in different installs.


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#63 2015-10-21 21:46:55

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ostrolek wrote:

You cannot just install one package kwin-x11, but there'd be another 195 packages to installed, and those would take about 220 MB of disk space, so it is the largest of the lot.

Sorry if what I posted was misleading but anyone who knows anything about KDE will know any part of it comes with a shedload of dependencies, me included but they are a lot less than before.

Package: kwin-x11
Source: kwin
Version: 4:5.4.2-1
Installed-Size: 75
Maintainer: Debian/Kubuntu Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Replaces: kde-window-manager (<< 4:5)
Provides: kwin
Depends: kwin-common (= 4:5.4.2-1), libc6 (>= 2.4), libkf5i18n5 (>= 4.97.0), libkf5windowsystem5 (>= 4.96.0), libqt5core5a (>= 5.3.0), libqt5gui5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.0.2), libqt5x11extras5 (>= 5.2.0), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libxcb1

Package: xfwm4                                                                                       
Version: 4.12.3-1                                                                                         
Installed-Size: 2980
Maintainer: Debian Xfce Maintainers <pkg-xfce-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Architecture: amd64
Provides: x-window-manager
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.4), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libdbus-glib-1-2 (>= 0.78), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.28.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libstartup-notification0 (>= 0.7), libwnck22 (>= 2.30.0-3), libx11-6, libxcomposite1 (>= 1:0.3-1), libxdamage1 (>= 1:1.1), libxext6, libxfce4ui-1-0 (>= 4.11.0), libxfce4util7 (>= 4.9.0), libxfconf-0-2 (>= 4.6.0), libxfixes3, libxrandr2 (>= 4.3), libxrender1

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#64 2015-10-21 22:04:04

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^ Talking about kwin; I have actually done an Jessie Xfce iso with full kwin eye-candy, when Jessie was called Testing. It is sitting somewhere in my data external hard disk and maybe I'd pull it out, install it and try to update it. If everything goes well, I'd create a live iso out of it and release it for you guys. There are lot of ifs at the moment.

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#65 2015-10-22 00:18:25

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