Tiling the Lab: bspwm in BunsenLabs

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-10-31 07:55:21

lemonbar is now available from my OBS repository

Instructions here:

https://software.opensuse.org/download. … e=lemonbar

It's in the same repository as bspwm so if you already have that then just use `apt update && apt install lemonbar` (as root).

Snap · 2016-11-02 08:41:19

Darn cool, Hoas! It's great finally having this stuff into the Sid repos plus your contribution backporting them for Stable.

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Snap · 2016-11-02 11:49:27

Testing from the repos. All smooth in the bspwm side, though needing to figure out why the heck lemonbar is not launching in this sidstem.

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ohnonot · 2016-11-03 06:53:33

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

bspwm is a hybrid tiling window manager that represents windows as the leaves of a full binary tree.

may i ask if hybrid means it supports floating as well?
i am atm looking for a hybrid/dynamic wm that will treat floating with as much love & care as tiling.
could bspwm be it (dwm sure isn't)?

and all that talk about binary trees - is all bspwm documentation & usability that nerdy?
or can i use it without understanding what a binary tree is?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-11-03 07:21:54

ohnonot wrote:

i am atm looking for a hybrid/dynamic wm that will treat floating with as much love & care as tiling.

You should use awesome, how's your Lua?

and all that talk about binary trees - is all bspwm documentation & usability that nerdy?
or can i use it without understanding what a binary tree is?

I cannot answer that question for you, my friend -- only you can decide that 8)

I don't understand the dox either but it sure is fun to play with

Pro tip: head over to the good folks at SparkyLinux and steal the scripts they use for their bspwm desktop ]:D

iMBeCil · 2016-11-03 09:11:06

ohnonot wrote:

i am atm looking for a hybrid/dynamic wm that will treat floating with as much love & care as tiling.

How about i3 wm? It has its learning curve, but I find it very well documented, and very powerful. (And community is quite responsive and helpful.) And, most importantly, configuration file is human comprehensible ('readable'), contrary to - for example - awesome with lua config ...

Yes, I use it now for some time and have no plans to change it.

Sorry for thread 'pollution'

PackRat · 2016-11-03 13:00:59

can i use it without understanding what a binary tree is?

Yes - binary tree is the default layout for tiling (automatic mode), and I'm pretty sure hybrid means that bspm has automatic mode tiling (the binary tree layout), manual tiling, and floating/stacking.

Once you understand how to set up the rules section of your bspwmrc, and the key bindings, you should be able to get the floating - tiling behavior you want.

i am atm looking for a hybrid/dynamic wm that will treat floating with as much love & care as tiling.

Care to elaborate on this - an interesting question for another thread, if you haven't started one already.

ohnonot · 2016-11-04 17:27:07

HoaS, by omission i assume that bspwm is not too keen on floating either.
with dwm it took me some time of using it as my daily driver to find that out, so i think it makes sense to ask these questions beforehand. there are, after all, quite many wms around...

i tried awesome and found it tries to be too much, and too configurable. otherwise it would be an exellent example for what i want.

i3 keeps coming back at me. it seems to be the sensible choice. i'm already using it on an old netbook. need to look more at its capabilities.

PackRat wrote:

Care to elaborate on this - an interesting question for another thread, if you haven't started one already.

dwm does floating, but always opens windows at pos 0,0 even if there's enough space to open windows side-by-side. i see no way of changing this. to me this gives the impression that floating has less priority for devs and users.
from superficial glances (dwm is the only one i spent more time with so far) it seems to be a common "attitude" with tiling/dynamic/hybrid wms.

and if this thread serves some deeper purpose, i have no intention of hijacking it! in that case i hope to get a gentle nudge from an admin.

PackRat · 2016-11-04 19:50:01

dwm does floating, but always opens windows at pos 0,0 even if there's enough space to open windows side-by-side. i see no way of changing this.

I think echinus has that capability - some more info on the developer's website.

Haven't used it a long time, but as I recall, the floating mode (which can be the default) is like a stacking wm; it use to be in the repos, but I think development stopped a long time ago. I don't know if it was forked.

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ohnonot · 2016-11-05 15:17:20

^ so did i think. interestingly, there has been some activity on the github repo: https://github.com/polachok/echinus

PackRat · 2016-11-06 18:12:13

^ 2bwm is the other window manager I can think of that sort of does that. 2bwm is actually a floating window manager but it has some built in window management to maximize/fold windows so you can manually create a tiling layout - all configured through the config.h file.

Last edited by PackRat (2016-11-06 18:21:12)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2017-01-01 18:59:39

I have changed the bspwm & sxhkd .dsc's & Debian tarballs to the versions from stretch so the quality of the packaging should be markedly better now

Unfortunately, the version numbers are the same so a manual removal, `apt clean` and reinstall will be required.

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