[SOLVED] flashplugin-nonfree & BunsenLabs 32bit PAE-enabled kernel

hughparker1 · 2016-10-26 14:17:59

I have just installed BunsenLabs using bl-Hydrogen-i386_20160710.iso on an old 32-bit hp530 laptop. Installation was perfect and running very fast for an old machine.

Model: hp530
CPU: Dual core Intel T2050 at 800 Mhz
RAM: 1GB

I completed the initial BunsenLabs script for updates but when I got to the section FLASH BROWSER PLUGIN I wasn't sure which option to choose so I chose NO as I wanted a chance to check what would be the best option for this laptop.

The options were...

1) The Adobe Flash Player - browser plugin, package: flashplugin-nonfree.
This stopped at version 11.2, but is still usable, although less safe.

Although my preferred browser is Firefox, I wasn't sure if it was OK to chose this option since it mentions it is less safe.

2) The Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin from Google,
packages: browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash, pepperflashplugin-nonfree
This is more recent (though s till non-free) software.

I didn't want to chose this option because it also says this package will download Chrome from Google.

I understand that Google no longer support 32-bit machines so I didn't want to download an unsupported package to cause errors during download or cause problems when used. (I thought maybe this BunsenLabs update script was created before Google decided to stop supporting 32-bit Chrome, and maybe the script hadn't been updated to reflect this)

I've had a look online for best option but got conflicting results so I wondered if anyone could offer any advice. I only need to use flash for watching BBC iPlayer, ITV Player etc. I don't think there are any other sites I would need to use it since YouTube is working OK without flash now.

So my question: is it safe enough to install 'flashplugin-nonfree' or is there another better option?

Last edited by hughparker1 (2016-10-26 22:35:30)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-10-26 14:43:24

hughparker1 wrote:

I thought maybe this BunsenLabs update script was created before Google decided to stop supporting 32-bit Chrome, and maybe the script hadn't been updated to reflect this

You are correct in this supposition

We now have a new package which can download the (32-bit) flashplayer library direct from Adobe, you can try this with:

sudo apt install bunsen-pepperflash

Unfortunately, for this to work with Firefox you will need to add the jessie-backports repositories to your system and install the browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash package.

These commands will do this but you shouldn't use the first line if you already have the repositories (check with `apt-cache policy`):

sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list <<< "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free"
sudo apt update
sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash

stevep · 2016-10-26 19:08:28

If any of those site are implementing Flash DRM copy protection, you may have to switch to the 11.2 Flash and install libhal1-flash--which isn't in jessie-backports. Bunsen should consider backporting it, or it's also in my multimedia backports repo: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=127574

The last I checked, Pepperflash or the new 23 beta Mozilla-type Flash didn't implement DRM.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-10-26 19:19:22

Thanks Steve, that is awesome

However, for DRM-related stuff I would recommend installing Google Chrome Stable and using that instead, there is a menu item for this in BL.

stevep wrote:

The last I checked, Pepperflash or the new 23 beta Mozilla-type Flash didn't implement DRM.

That's interesting, the Adobe site claims that the new beta version of PPAPI that is available direct from them should support DRM content and 3D GPU acceleration:

Adobe wrote:

Because this change is primarily a security initiative, some features (like GPU 3D acceleration and premium video DRM) will not be fully implemented.
If you require this functionality, we recommend that you use the PPAPI version of Flash Player.

https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/l … enotes.pdf

stevep · 2016-10-26 20:38:11

Well, only testing will tell. I was just looking at the Arch wiki, and they didn't seem to know anything about it. Apparently, the ChromeOS pepperflash supports it, and some people have managed to get it out of Chromebooks and into their desktop Linux successfully. Most of the guides I've seen end with DIE FLASH DIE, though.

We ported over bunsen-pepperflash to MX, too, since it's the only downloader working. Mucho thanks, BL! I modified it a little to allow a dummy transitional pepperflashplugin-nonfree upgrade I created to pull it in automatically, but I don't think that's hit our repos yet.

Edit: Looks like installing it will be left to the MX-Flash utility instead.

Last edited by stevep (2016-10-26 20:52:41)

hughparker1 · 2016-10-26 20:50:14

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

We now have a new package which can download the (32-bit) flashplayer library direct from Adobe, you can try this with:
sudo apt install bunsen-pepperflash
Unfortunately, for this to work with Firefox you will need to add the jessie-backports repositories to your system and install the browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash package.
These commands will do this but you shouldn't use the first line if you already have the repositories (check with `apt-cache policy`):
sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list <<< "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free"
sudo apt update
sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash

Thanks for your reply and clear instructions

I installed the packages and restarted laptop and opened Firefox, and ITV player does play ok, but I am having problems playing anything on BBC iPlayer, it thinks it can play (which is different from before) but if freezes constantly and sometimes message states "Unresponsive Script".

I checked I had the necessary jessie-backports in my sources before installing the packages, and all seemed OK, here is the output of my terminal commands...

hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:~$ apt-cache policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     release a=now
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/main Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/contrib Translation-en
 100 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/non-free i386 Packages
     release o=Debian Backports,a=jessie-backports,n=jessie-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=non-free
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 100 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/contrib i386 Packages
     release o=Debian Backports,a=jessie-backports,n=jessie-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=contrib
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 100 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/main i386 Packages
     release o=Debian Backports,a=jessie-backports,n=jessie-backports,l=Debian Backports,c=main
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/ bunsen-hydrogen/main i386 Packages
     release o=bunsenlabs,n=bunsen-hydrogen,l=bunsenlabs,c=main
     origin pkg.bunsenlabs.org
 100 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/ jessie-backports/main i386 Packages
     release o=bunsenlabs,n=jessie-backports,l=bunsenlabs,c=main
     origin pkg.bunsenlabs.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/main Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/contrib Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/non-free i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=stable-updates,n=jessie-updates,l=Debian,c=non-free
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/contrib i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=stable-updates,n=jessie-updates,l=Debian,c=contrib
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates/main i386 Packages
     release o=Debian,a=stable-updates,n=jessie-updates,l=Debian,c=main
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main Translation-en
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/contrib Translation-en
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/non-free i386 Packages
     release v=8,o=Debian,a=stable,n=jessie,l=Debian-Security,c=non-free
     origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/contrib i386 Packages
     release v=8,o=Debian,a=stable,n=jessie,l=Debian-Security,c=contrib
     origin security.debian.org
 500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main i386 Packages
     release v=8,o=Debian,a=stable,n=jessie,l=Debian-Security,c=main
     origin security.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/non-free Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/contrib Translation-en
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/contrib i386 Packages
     release v=8.6,o=Debian,a=stable,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=contrib
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/non-free i386 Packages
     release v=8.6,o=Debian,a=stable,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=non-free
     origin httpredir.debian.org
 500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main i386 Packages
     release v=8.6,o=Debian,a=stable,n=jessie,l=Debian,c=main
     origin httpredir.debian.org
Pinned packages:
hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:~$

hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ ls
bunsen-jessie-backports.list  bunsen.list  debian-jessie-backports.list
hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$

hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ cat bunsen-jessie-backports.list
# added by bl-welcome
# BunsenLabs backports
deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian jessie-backports main
hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$

hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ cat bunsen.list
deb http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian bunsen-hydrogen mainhugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ 
hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$

hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$ cat debian-jessie-backports.list
# added by bl-welcome
# Debian backports
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie-backports main contrib non-free
hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:/etc/apt/sources.list.d$

All above looked OK so I ran command "sudo apt update" then following two commands...

hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:~$ sudo apt install browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libevent-core-2.0-5 libevent-pthreads-2.0-5
Recommended packages:
  pepperflashplugin-nonfree
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash libevent-core-2.0-5 libevent-pthreads-2.0-5
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 542 kB of archives.
After this operation, 1,502 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main libevent-core-2.0-5 i386 2.0.21-stable-2 [112 kB]
Get:2 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main libevent-pthreads-2.0-5 i386 2.0.21-stable-2 [44.0 kB]
Get:3 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/contrib browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash i386 0.3.5-1~bpo8+1 [385 kB]
Fetched 542 kB in 1s (373 kB/s)                                   
Selecting previously unselected package libevent-core-2.0-5:i386.
(Reading database ... 93071 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libevent-core-2.0-5_2.0.21-stable-2_i386.deb ...
Unpacking libevent-core-2.0-5:i386 (2.0.21-stable-2) ...
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Preparing to unpack .../libevent-pthreads-2.0-5_2.0.21-stable-2_i386.deb ...
Unpacking libevent-pthreads-2.0-5:i386 (2.0.21-stable-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash.
Preparing to unpack .../browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash_0.3.5-1~bpo8+1_i386.deb ...
Unpacking browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash (0.3.5-1~bpo8+1) ...
Setting up libevent-core-2.0-5:i386 (2.0.21-stable-2) ...
Setting up libevent-pthreads-2.0-5:i386 (2.0.21-stable-2) ...
Setting up browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash (0.3.5-1~bpo8+1) ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash/libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so to provide /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so (flash-mozilla.so) in auto mode
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-18+deb8u6) ...
hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:~$

hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:~$ sudo apt install bunsen-pepperflash
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  binutils python-bs4 python-lxml
Suggested packages:
  binutils-doc chromium python-lxml-dbg
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  binutils bunsen-pepperflash python-bs4 python-lxml
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,500 kB of archives.
After this operation, 24.1 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/ bunsen-hydrogen/main bunsen-pepperflash i386 8.0-1 [9,240 B]
Get:2 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main binutils i386 2.25-5 [3,651 kB]   
Get:3 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main python-bs4 all 4.3.2-2 [77.7 kB]
Get:4 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main python-lxml i386 3.4.0-1 [762 kB]
Fetched 4,500 kB in 6s (730 kB/s)                                                       
Selecting previously unselected package binutils.
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Selecting previously unselected package bunsen-pepperflash.
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Unpacking python-lxml (3.4.0-1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.0.2-5) ...
Setting up binutils (2.25-5) ...
Setting up python-bs4 (4.3.2-2) ...
Setting up bunsen-pepperflash (8.0-1) ...
Checking Flash version available from Adobe...
Upstream version: 23.0.0.205
There is no installed file /usr/lib/bunsen-pepperflash/libpepflashplayer.so
Installing flash...
--2016-10-26 19:34:44--  https://fpdownload.adobe.com/pub/flashplayer/pdc/23.0.0.205/flash_player_ppapi_linux.i386.tar.gz
Resolving fpdownload.adobe.com (fpdownload.adobe.com)... 104.127.17.139
Connecting to fpdownload.adobe.com (fpdownload.adobe.com)|104.127.17.139|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6002470 (5.7M) [application/x-gzip]
Saving to: ‘/tmp/tmp.nfgvT7YiGI/flash_player_ppapi_linux.i386.tar.gz’

/tmp/tmp.nfgvT7YiGI/fl 100%[===========================>]   5.72M  1.88MB/s   in 3.1s   

2016-10-26 19:34:48 (1.88 MB/s) - ‘/tmp/tmp.nfgvT7YiGI/flash_player_ppapi_linux.i386.tar.gz’ saved [6002470/6002470]

Configuring chromium...
Configuring the freshplayer plugin...
Cleaning up...
Deleted /tmp/tmp.nfgvT7YiGI
Setting up python-lxml (3.4.0-1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-18+deb8u6) ...
hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:~$

I noticed one of the lines said... "There is no installed file /usr/lib/bunsen-pepperflash/libpepflashplayer.so" not sure if this is relevant or not.

I have add-on "Flash Control" and also an add-blocker so I tried disabling these and restarting browser but still BBC iPlayer freezes most of the time.

I tried restarting Firefox with add-ons disabled, and it restarted in Safe Mode, but still not playing any video properly.

Sometimes get message "Adobe Flash Plugin has crashed, Reload the page to try again"

One last thing, I decided to check the version of flash I have in my browser using url http://www.adobe.com/uk/software/flash/about/

The message says

ADOBE FLASH PLAYER Successfully Installed

You have version 23,0,0,205 installed

Platform     Browser Player                                     version
             Linux Firefox - NPAPI (Extended Support Release)   11.2.202.643
             Chrome (embedded) - PPAPI                          23.0.0.205
             Chromium-based browsers - PPAPI                    23.0.0.205

So it looks like the version I have is for Chromium-based browsers - PPAPI

And I'm using Firefox.

Do you think this is the reason the video doesn't play without freezing?

Last edited by hughparker1 (2016-10-26 20:53:20)

Horizon_Brave · 2016-10-26 20:51:37

stevep wrote:

Well, only testing will tell. I was just looking at the Arch wiki, and they didn't seem to know anything about it. Apparently, the ChromeOS pepperflash supports it, and some people have managed to get it out of Chromebooks and into their desktop Linux successfully. Most of the guides I've seen end with DIE FLASH DIE, though.
We ported over bunsen-pepperflash to MX, too, since it's the only downloader working. Mucho thanks, BL! I modified it a little to allow a dummy transitional pepperflashplugin-nonfree upgrade I created to pull it in automatically, but I don't think that's hit our repos yet.

I think the news of this broke relatively recently, so the arch wiki probably hasn't been updated...heck the debian wiki isn't updated for it either. I'm currently using the new NPAPI on my VM.... It'd be nice is they gave it a separate name other than NPAPI, because now we have to differentiate between the new "23 Beta Build" and the old unsupported NPAPI...

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-10-26 21:04:33

hughparker1 wrote:

So it looks like the version I have is for Chromium-based browsers - PPAPI
And I'm using Firefox.
Do you think this is the reason the video doesn't play without freezing?

No, that is how it is supposed to be -- the Firefox version of Flash (NPAPI) is stuck at version 11.2 for GNU/Linux so the PPAPI player must be used.

Version 23 of the NPAPI player is available from Adobe's beta channel, hopefully they will "mainline" that soon...

http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer.html

The browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash package provides a wrapper that should allow the PPAPI player to work with Firefox.

You seem to have everything installed so it should be working

I think that perhaps the BBC is using DRM

My only suggestion would be to try installing Google Chrome Stable (from the BL menu entry) and see if that works instead.

Be aware that Google Chrome Stable adds a Google repository under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ along with a daily cron job to replace that file if it is removed -- they really are a sneaky bunch of ******** sometimes...

damo · 2016-10-26 21:13:27

A really ugly hack to get DRM streaming to work for services such as "Channel4 OnDemand" (Guy Martin's Speed anyone? ):

Install Firefox for Windows in WINE, and the Windows Adobe plugin. That's what I have been using to view the Guy Martin videos

hughparker1 · 2016-10-26 22:34:17

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

No, that is how it is supposed to be -- the Firefox version of Flash (NPAPI) is stuck at version 11.2 for GNU/Linux so the PPAPI player must be used.
Version 23 of the NPAPI player is available from Adobe's beta channel, hopefully they will "mainline" that soon...

Thanks for for your reply and feedback, will this get updated on my system during one of the future sudo update && upgrade?

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

My only suggestion would be to try installing Google Chrome Stable (from the BL menu entry) and see if that works instead.
Be aware that Google Chrome Stable adds a Google repository under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ along with a daily cron job to replace that file if it is removed -- they really are a sneaky bunch of ******** sometimes...

I couldn't see Chrome in the BL menu, also couldn't see it in Synaptic Package Manager. Did I miss it?

But I did see Chromium in the BL menu, under Network > WWW Browsers > Install > Chromium

So I installed that and it plays BBC iPlayer with no problems. I'm glad that's working now.

Thanks again for your help and guidance, much appreciated.
EDIT: in my earlier post I showed the output of install bunsen-pepperflash

hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:~$ sudo apt install bunsen-pepperflash
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  binutils python-bs4 python-lxml
Suggested packages:
  binutils-doc chromium python-lxml-dbg
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  binutils bunsen-pepperflash python-bs4 python-lxml
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,500 kB of archives.
After this operation, 24.1 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian/ bunsen-hydrogen/main bunsen-pepperflash i386 8.0-1 [9,240 B]
Get:2 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main binutils i386 2.25-5 [3,651 kB]   
Get:3 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main python-bs4 all 4.3.2-2 [77.7 kB]
Get:4 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main python-lxml i386 3.4.0-1 [762 kB]
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Setting up bunsen-pepperflash (8.0-1) ...
Checking Flash version available from Adobe...
Upstream version: 23.0.0.205
There is no installed file /usr/lib/bunsen-pepperflash/libpepflashplayer.so
Installing flash...
--2016-10-26 19:34:44--  https://fpdownload.adobe.com/pub/flashplayer/pdc/23.0.0.205/flash_player_ppapi_linux.i386.tar.gz
Resolving fpdownload.adobe.com (fpdownload.adobe.com)... 104.127.17.139
Connecting to fpdownload.adobe.com (fpdownload.adobe.com)|104.127.17.139|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6002470 (5.7M) [application/x-gzip]
Saving to: ‘/tmp/tmp.nfgvT7YiGI/flash_player_ppapi_linux.i386.tar.gz’

/tmp/tmp.nfgvT7YiGI/fl 100%[===========================>]   5.72M  1.88MB/s   in 3.1s   

2016-10-26 19:34:48 (1.88 MB/s) - ‘/tmp/tmp.nfgvT7YiGI/flash_player_ppapi_linux.i386.tar.gz’ saved [6002470/6002470]

Configuring chromium...
Configuring the freshplayer plugin...
Cleaning up...
Deleted /tmp/tmp.nfgvT7YiGI
Setting up python-lxml (3.4.0-1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.19-18+deb8u6) ...
hugh@hp530-BUNSENLABS:~$

I noticed one of the lines said... "There is no installed file /usr/lib/bunsen-pepperflash/libpepflashplayer.so" I'm not sure if this might be relevant to the problem. I just saw something similar in another post about flash.

Last edited by hughparker1 (2016-10-26 22:56:16)

johnraff · 2016-10-27 02:44:43

hughparker1 wrote:

I noticed one of the lines said... "There is no installed file /usr/lib/bunsen-pepperflash/libpepflashplayer.so" I'm not sure if this might be relevant to the problem.

No, that's OK, it's just the script checking for a preinstalled file, so it won't download a new one if it's not needed.

hughparker1 wrote:

But I did see Chromium in the BL menu, under Network > WWW Browsers > Install > Chromium
So I installed that and it plays BBC iPlayer with no problems.

So it sounds as if PPAPI is working OK. I suspect Firefox might still be trying to use the old NPAPI instead. To check what flash version Firefox is actually using, right-click a window where something is playing. You should see a popup with the version displayed. If it's 11.2.202.643 and not 23.0.0.205 then that's probably the problem.

browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash should install a Debian alternative for flash-mozilla.so which points to /usr/lib/browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash/libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so but it may have failed for some reason.
You can check by Menu>System>"Edit Debian Alternatives"
Find flash-mozilla.so and check what it's set to. If the correct path is available there, just select it. If not, you can use the "Add" button to enter it manually. Then restart Firefox, and cross your fingers.

hughparker1 · 2016-10-27 15:36:33

johnraff wrote:

So it sounds as if PPAPI is working OK. I suspect Firefox might still be trying to use the old NPAPI instead. To check what flash version Firefox is actually using, right-click a window where something is playing. You should see a popup with the version displayed. If it's 11.2.202.643 and not 23.0.0.205 then that's probably the problem.

I checked the version by right-click during play and it shows "About Adobe Flash Player 23.0.0.205"

johnraff wrote:

browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash should install a Debian alternative for flash-mozilla.so which points to /usr/lib/browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash/libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so but it may have failed for some reason.
You can check by Menu>System>"Edit Debian Alternatives"
Find flash-mozilla.so and check what it's set to. If the correct path is available there, just select it. If not, you can use the "Add" button to enter it manually. Then restart Firefox, and cross your fingers.

I checked Debian Alternatives and it does show the correct path

/usr/lib/browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash/libfreshwrapper-flashplayer.so

So it does look as if everything is setup correctly so perhaps the issue might be caused by some DRM that BBC iPlayer is using since ITV player is working ok.

Thanks for your help on this, I do appreciate your feedback. I have since installed Chromium and I am able to watch BBC iPlayer using that browser so I'm not stuck.

I'm very pleased with BunsenLabs, it is very speedy to startup and use on this very old hp530 laptop. Also the help on this forum is first class.

damo · 2016-10-27 15:47:31

hughparker1 wrote:

...
So it does look as if everything is setup correctly so perhaps the issue might be caused by some DRM that BBC iPlayer is using since ITV player is working ok.
Thanks for your help on this, I do appreciate your feedback. I have since installed Chromium and I am able to watch BBC iPlayer using that browser so I'm not stuck.
I'm very pleased with BunsenLabs, it is very speedy to startup and use on this very old hp530 laptop. Also the help on this forum is first class.

Had you tried clearing the cache? Just a thought, since BBC iPlayer now requires you to acknowledge you have a TV license, so you may not have ticked the popup.

FYI I have BBC iPlayer running OK in Palemoon. It is the Channel4 OD DRM content that isn't working for me

hughparker1 · 2016-10-29 12:39:45

damo wrote:

Have you tried clearing the cache? Just a thought, since BBC iPlayer now requires you to acknowledge you have a TV license, so you may not have ticked the popup.

I tried clearing cache but it didn't help. Thanks anyway for the response. I appreciate your time. I am happy using Chromium and it works fine, so it's not a big problem that I can't use Firefox for BBC iPlayer.

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