OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

sexynsmartjenny · 2016-09-15 01:21:49

stevep wrote:

For what it's worth, I have Jessie's kdenlive installed with a backported libav-tools and ffmpeg 3.1.3--no problems. So they can coexist. Maybe some configuration file was corrupted by the crash.
Edit: Ahhh, I get it. Apt is trying to install Jessie's libav-tools by default, but that conflicts with jessie-backport's ffmpeg. You need to specify that the backports libav-tools is installed.
# apt install kdenlive libav-tools -t jessie-backports
But the crash might mean that the Jessie kdenlive is not really going to work well with a newer "real" ffmpeg instead of Jessie's libav. You'll have to test that.
It is possible to build a mpv package that uses an internal recent version of ffmpeg, so you can use a recent mpv without having to upgrade the system ffmpeg. It just has to be rebuilt from the sources here: https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests

IT WORKED!!!! THANK YOU!!! BTW,what are you saying about mpv? I am a noob and I need step by step instructions. But, already thank you so much! I couldn't survive linux without this forum

PackRat · 2016-09-15 14:45:24

sexynsmartjenny wrote:

barnabyh wrote:
You seem to have a lot of problems with your Bunsen. Did you do a check sum after downloading that image you installed?
Perhaps a reinstall would help?
how do you do a check sum? I am totally noob and I need step by step instructions. Let me try the methods suggested by Head on a Stick first.

Get the BL SHA-256 file for your particular iso from the download page and check the iso file after the download is complete.

Some sites use an md5 file (md5sum) instead of sha-256 - same process, md5sum command.

Last edited by PackRat (2016-09-15 14:46:00)

Bearded_Blunder · 2016-09-15 17:23:47

PackRat wrote:

sexynsmartjenny wrote:
barnabyh wrote:
You seem to have a lot of problems with your Bunsen. Did you do a check sum after downloading that image you installed?
Perhaps a reinstall would help?
how do you do a check sum? I am totally noob and I need step by step instructions. Let me try the methods suggested by Head on a Stick first.
Get the BL SHA-256 file for your particular iso from the download page and check the iso file after the download is complete.
Some sites use an md5 file (md5sum) instead of sha-256 - same process, md5sum command.

Just for the benefit of anyone who's found this as the result of a search and wants to know how to get the checksum of a file in
Bunsen (or pretty much any Linux) open a terminal then:

sha256sum /path/to/file/file.ext

for the md5:

md5sum /path/to/file/file.ext

And since many people dowload iso files etc on Windws to later install Linux.. open a windows command prompt (Win Key + R and type cmd in the box) then:

certutil -hashfile  "C:\path\to\file\file.ext" sha256

To get the md5 or sha1 simply subsitute that where I have sha256 in the above command.

@Mods possibly a good idea to add those simple commands somewhere near the download links so people know how to check, rather than simply advising them they should?

Last edited by Bearded_Blunder (2016-09-15 22:09:41)

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-09-15 17:29:42

Bearded_Blunder wrote:

@Mods possibly a good idea to add those simple commands somewhere near the download links so people know how to check, rather than simply advising them they should?

From the "Installation" section of bunsenlabs.org (immediately above the download links):

Do not forget to verify direct downloads using the checksum file provided.
[...]
Place the file containing the checksums in the same directory as your ISO file downloads, and then run in a terminal `sha256sum --check ${CHECKSUM_FILE}`. Make sure to pass the name of the *.sha256sum.txt file, and not the ISO file!

https://www.bunsenlabs.org/installation.html

Bearded_Blunder · 2016-09-15 21:29:46

Quite so, but rather unhelpful to anyone using Windows to download the file, as has always been the case when I've installed (numerous) Linux distributions, and while most Linux users become aware how to check hashes quite rapidly, I'd respectfully suggest there are probably quite high numbers of long-time Windows users, and even IT administrators who don't know Windows can even perform the check without installing third party software. Many, or even possibly most people downloading the bunsen iso files will be doing so from Windows, by definition bunsen is unlikely to be installed yet, making the quoted advice helpful only to distro-hoppers.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-09-15 21:40:21

Bearded_Blunder wrote:

Quite so, but rather unhelpful to anyone using Windows to download the file

Good point, I have opened a separate bug report so this doesn't get missed.

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 146#p37146

EDIT: pagination...

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2016-09-15 21:41:28)

stevep · 2016-09-15 22:48:54

sexynsmartjenny wrote:

stevep wrote:
For what it's worth, I have Jessie's kdenlive installed with a backported libav-tools and ffmpeg 3.1.3--no problems. So they can coexist. Maybe some configuration file was corrupted by the crash.
Edit: Ahhh, I get it. Apt is trying to install Jessie's libav-tools by default, but that conflicts with jessie-backport's ffmpeg. You need to specify that the backports libav-tools is installed.
# apt install kdenlive libav-tools -t jessie-backports
But the crash might mean that the Jessie kdenlive is not really going to work well with a newer "real" ffmpeg instead of Jessie's libav. You'll have to test that.
It is possible to build a mpv package that uses an internal recent version of ffmpeg, so you can use a recent mpv without having to upgrade the system ffmpeg. It just has to be rebuilt from the sources here: https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests
IT WORKED!!!! THANK YOU!!! BTW,what are you saying about mpv? I am a noob and I need step by step instructions. But, already thank you so much! I couldn't survive linux without this forum

Well, test kdenlive with the backports ffmpeg first before we talk about mpv. There's no mpv in jessie-backports for some reason, so it doesn't need the newer ffmpeg; it uses the stock Jessie libav fork libraries instead.

I'm 99% sure that adding ffmpeg from backports is what removed kdenlive. Perhaps you didn't notice at the time it was sent packing--as we saw, it needed a little extra coaxing to get them to coexist, because jessie-backports packages are not set to appear as automatic upgrades.

I do maintain my own little repo for some Jessie backported cutting-edge multimedia packages--it also includes some stuff not in Debian, such as avidemux, deadbeef, compiz, dvdstyler, gimp-2.9.5 and Peek. It currently has mpv 0.20, and that depends on an even newer ffmpeg 3.1.3 that's in there. Most of the packages are also already in the MX 15 test repo, so I have used them and made sure they won't nuke your system:

https://build.opensuse.org/project/show … evepassert

However, if mpv is already working fine, don't mess with it. I just use the newest version because SMPlayer requires it to use a lot of features, and I like poking things to see how they work.

Last edited by stevep (2016-09-15 22:50:01)

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