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#1 2016-09-11 19:30:21

sexynsmartjenny
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OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

Okay, here is what happened.  My computer froze--which, honestly, has never happened to me before--so I shut it down, while kdenlive was still running--I think I was a glimpse of an error message before the computer screen turned dark.  Then I restarted my computer.  As usual I ran dialog and typed in "kdenlive" and it says "Error: No such file or directory".  I was like WTF, then I right clicked and searched under media, nothing.  I opened usr/bin and did not find kdenlive either.   

FINALLY, I tried re-install "sudo apt-get install kdenlive" and it says:

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kdenlive : Depends: libav-tools but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

What just happened????

Edit: when I said I used to use crunchbang, I literally mean I had used crunchbang a year ago, and it never crashed.  But when I switched to using bunsenlabs, I had a few crashes and freezes in my pc.  And this is a new pc as well.

Last edited by sexynsmartjenny (2016-09-11 21:38:54)

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#2 2016-09-11 19:58:30

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

Please post the output of:

apt-cache policy libav-tools

If you have deb-multimedia in your sources then that may be the problem here.

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#3 2016-09-11 20:17:57

sexynsmartjenny
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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

output of apt-cache policy libav-tools is

libav-tools:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 6:11.7-1~deb8u1
  Version table:
     7:3.0.2-4~bpo8+1 0
        100 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/main amd64 Packages
     6:11.7-1~deb8u1 0
        500 http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     6:11.6-1~deb8u1 0
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages

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#4 2016-09-11 20:23:19

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

How about:

apt-cache policy kdenlive

(I should have included that in the original command really)

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#5 2016-09-11 20:35:14

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

output of apt-cache policy kdenlive

kdenlive:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 0.9.10-2
  Version table:
     0.9.10-2 0
        500 http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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#6 2016-09-11 20:42:36

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

sexynsmartjenny wrote:

FINALLY, I tried re-install "sudo apt-get install kdenlive" and it says:

Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kdenlive : Depends: libav-tools but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

I think we also need to see the *full* output of that command, thanks.

Sorry about this back-and-forth but my BunsenLabs system is inaccessible at the moment so I can't test this independently.
hmm

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#7 2016-09-11 20:56:52

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

okay no problem.  I am just so glad someone is here to help me. (^*^)

output of sudo apt-get install kdenlive

jennifersuzuki@4629175:~$ sudo apt-get install kdenlive
[sudo] password for jennifersuzuki: 
Sorry, try again.
[sudo] password for jennifersuzuki: 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 kdenlive : Depends: libav-tools but it is not going to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

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#8 2016-09-11 21:20:48

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

I get the feeling I'm missing something really obvious here sad

Can we try:

aptitude -s install kdenlive libav-tools

It will present some options for you, keep saying "No" until it runs out of ideas.

If the output is huge (which it may be), you could use http://paste.debian.net/ and post the URL here.

EDIT: command changed to "--simulate" & root permissions removed.

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#9 2016-09-11 21:32:47

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

This question is posted in BunsenLabs Basic Help & Support, but the OP says she is using Crunchbang?


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#10 2016-09-11 21:36:59

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

damo wrote:

This question is posted in BunsenLabs Basic Help & Support, but the OP says she is using Crunchbang?

They state that it never happened before using crunchbang, if they still are or have moved on to bunsenlabs actually isn't stated, but such a move is implied by where the help is being asked for.


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#11 2016-09-11 21:37:38

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

damo wrote:

This question is posted in BunsenLabs Basic Help & Support, but the OP says she is using Crunchbang?


No no no! I am using bunsenlabs.  I used to use crunchbang!!!!

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#12 2016-09-11 21:42:44

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

here is the output of aptitude -s install kdenlive libav-tools

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kdenlive libav-tools 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libuuid-perl{u} python-alsaaudio{u} 
0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/1,776 kB of archives. After unpacking 7,126 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 ffmpeg : Breaks: libav-tools (< 6:12~~) but 6:11.7-1~deb8u1 is to be installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

     Remove the following packages:
1)     ffmpeg                      



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] y
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kdenlive libav-tools 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  ffmpeg{a} libavcodec57{u} libavdevice57{u} libavfilter6{u} libavformat57{u} 
  libavresample3{u} libavutil55{u} libopenjp2-7{u} libpgm-5.1-0{u} 
  libpostproc54{u} librubberband2{u} libsnappy1{u} libsodium13{u} 
  libswresample2{u} libswscale4{u} libuuid-perl{u} libx265-79{u} libzmq3{u} 
  python-alsaaudio{u} 
0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 19 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/1,776 kB of archives. After unpacking 29.0 MB will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y
Would download/install/remove packages.

I see ffmpeg.  Hmmm, I did install ffmpeg.  Does it have something to do with ffmpeg????

I have to go prepare dinner now.  Be back in a few hours.

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#13 2016-09-12 01:55:34

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

Possibly it's some sort of confusion between the libav-tools in Jessie and the dummy version in jessie-backports.  Let aptitude do its downgrade as suggested, then try upgrading libavtools and ffmpeg back to the jessie-backports version if you need it.

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#14 2016-09-12 07:08:27

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

stevep wrote:

Possibly it's some sort of confusion between the libav-tools in Jessie and the dummy version in jessie-backports

Ah, thanks smile

@OP: I would be quite interested to see what other options `aptitude` can come up with -- if you run the command again and press "n" this time, it will offer another solution and if you keep saying "n" it will keep running through it's algorithm.

There may be a less destructive option in there.

We could also try:

apt install -s kdenlive libav-tools/jessie ffmpeg/jessie-backports

If that doesn't work, run that aptitude command again as root and without the "-s" ("simulate") flag to perform the actions for real.

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#15 2016-09-12 11:59:06

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

Am I reading these time stamps correctly - this crash occured about 2 hours after this particular install of ffmpeg and mpv?


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#16 2016-09-12 18:11:42

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

For what it's worth, I have Jessie's kdenlive installed with a backported libav-tools and ffmpeg 3.1.3--no problems. So they can coexist.  Maybe some configuration file was corrupted by the crash.

Edit:  Ahhh, I get it.  Apt is trying to install Jessie's libav-tools by default, but that conflicts with jessie-backport's ffmpeg.  You need to specify that the backports libav-tools is installed.

# apt install kdenlive libav-tools -t jessie-backports

But the crash might mean that the Jessie kdenlive is not really going to work well with a newer "real" ffmpeg instead of Jessie's libav.  You'll have to test that.

It is possible to build a mpv package that uses an internal recent version of ffmpeg, so you can use a recent mpv without having to upgrade the system ffmpeg.  It just has to be rebuilt from the sources here:  https://launchpad.net/~mc3man/+archive/ubuntu/mpv-tests

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#17 2016-09-13 02:38:29

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

You seem to have a lot of problems with your Bunsen.  Did you do a check sum after downloading that image you installed?

Perhaps a reinstall would help?


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#18 2016-09-15 01:12:47

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

PackRat wrote:

Am I reading these time stamps correctly - this crash occured about 2 hours after this particular install of ffmpeg and mpv?

Yes.

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#19 2016-09-15 01:14:09

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

barnabyh wrote:

You seem to have a lot of problems with your Bunsen.  Did you do a check sum after downloading that image you installed?

Perhaps a reinstall would help?

how do you do a check sum?  I am totally noob and I need step by step instructions.  Let me try the methods suggested by Head on a Stick first.

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#20 2016-09-15 01:18:12

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Re: OMG kdenlive just disappeared!

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
stevep wrote:

Possibly it's some sort of confusion between the libav-tools in Jessie and the dummy version in jessie-backports

Ah, thanks smile

@OP: I would be quite interested to see what other options `aptitude` can come up with -- if you run the command again and press "n" this time, it will offer another solution and if you keep saying "n" it will keep running through it's algorithm.

There may be a less destructive option in there.

We could also try:

apt install -s kdenlive libav-tools/jessie ffmpeg/jessie-backports

If that doesn't work, run that aptitude command again as root and without the "-s" ("simulate") flag to perform the actions for real.

Okay, so I ran the first command with -s and it didn't work.  Afterword, I tried it without -s and this is the codes I got.

sudo apt install kdenlive libav-tools/jessie ffmpeg/jessie-backports
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
ffmpeg is already the newest version.
Selected version '6:11.7-1~deb8u1' (Debian-Security:8/stable [amd64]) for 'libav-tools'
Selected version '7:3.0.2-4~bpo8+1' (Debian Backports:jessie-backports [amd64]) for 'ffmpeg'
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
ffmpeg : Breaks: libav-tools (< 6:12~~) but 6:11.7-1~deb8u1 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

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