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#1 2016-01-12 20:49:56

Bradypus
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Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Hello!
I tried running the live 32b image (on a flashdrive) on two computers and got the following problem:

It starts out OK (or so it seems), but then gets stuck on the verification and the following line is repeated for several minutes:

cat: can't open '/sys/block/*renewable': No such file or directory

Then I get the following lines once:

BusyBox v1.22.1 (Debian 1:1.22.0-9_deb8u1) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help" for a list of built-in commands.

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing the live system

This was almost immediately followed by the repetition of the following line:

modprobe: can't change directory to '3.16.0-5-586': No such file or directory

Details:

The image checksum checked OK.

It was created using UNetbootin.

One of the computers I tried this on is an Asus eeePC 900 (32b, 1Gb RAM, presently running CrunchBang++)

The other computer used is an i5 Philco notebook with 4Gb of RAM, running Linux Mint.

I tried the 64b live image on the latter and it worked perfectly, no issues detected.

I hope this can be useful.

All the best.

Last edited by Bradypus (2016-01-13 16:38:50)


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#2 2016-01-12 20:56:08

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Bradypus wrote:

It was created using UNetbootin

The BunsenLabs ISO image does not work with unetbootin

See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=775689

Transfer the image using:

sudo dd if=bunsenlabs.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4096 conv=sync

Replace "bunsenlabs.iso" with the full name of the ISO image and replace "X" with the drive letter assigned to the USB stick (plug the stick and run `dmesg|tail` or `lsblk` in a terminal to find this) -- make absolutely sure that the drive letter is correct or you may wipe your internal hard drive.

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Thank you for taking the time to report this.

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#3 2016-01-12 21:51:12

Bradypus
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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Thank you, Head_on_a_stick!

I'll definitely try that.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Bradypus wrote:

It was created using UNetbootin

The BunsenLabs ISO image does not work with unetbootin

I remember that from CrunchBang. But as there was no indication on the website, I just thought that had changed. Maybe it would be good to make this more clear in the Download / Installation page.

Anyway, it is puzzling that UNetbootin worked for the 64b image. Would that be because I created the 64b live image on a 64b computer? Just wondering.

Thanks again!

(Oh, and special thanks for the remark about the drive letter!)


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#4 2016-01-12 21:56:43

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Bradypus wrote:

Maybe it would be good to make this more clear in the Download / Installation page.

Yes, that is a good idea, thank you.

Bradypus wrote:

Anyway, it is puzzling that UNetbootin worked for the 64b image. Would that be because I created the 64b live image on a 64b computer? Just wondering.

I really don't know, sorry.

I think maybe you just got lucky with that one.

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#5 2016-01-12 22:26:15

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Hi again!

Well, I copied the imageto the flashdrive as you suggested. Check.

I found it rather odd, though, that the debian folder link in the image pointed to the whole image and woul open it recursively and (I can only suppose) forever.

Anyway, when I tried to start the 64b netbook from the flashdrive I quickly saw a "Missing operating system" message and was taken to the Grub menu of my Mint installation. When I tried it on my eeePC I got the "Missing operating system" message and was also redirected to the native system.

That happened twice on the notebook and three times on the eeePC. Pretty consistent.

Maybe, just maybe, would it be possible that there's some issue with the 32 bit iso image made available?

I should probably stop bugging you with this. It is really no big deal, I can live with the system I have installed and wait to play with the next version. I really like the way it looked on the 64b image, though. I'm pretty sure I'd like it even better on my eeePC.

Thanks again for your help and attention!


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#6 2016-01-12 22:30:18

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Does the flashdrive work if you write a different ISO image to the device?

I think our ISO builder uses a 32-bit machine but we will have to wait for him to arrive.

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#7 2016-01-12 22:36:56

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Bradypus wrote:

... But as there was no indication on the website, I just thought that had changed. Maybe it would be good to make this more clear in the Download / Installation page....)

BL Installation page wrote:

Live CD/DVD/USB key method

This is the preferred and officially supported installation method. You first download a so-called hybrid ISO image which, depending on size, is suitable for writing to a CD/DVD medium or a USB key drive. Then, after booting from the installation medium, you have the chance to test the Bunsen desktop and install the system to your computer.

After downloading the ISO file from one of the sources below, you may find help with burning the file to disk or writing to a USB key in the Debian FAQ section:

    How to write an ISO image under Linux/Unix, Windows or Mac OS X?
    How to write a CD/DVD/BD image to a USB flash drive?

...which shows links to How do I write a CD/DVD/BD image to a USB flash drive?. The official Debian line there is:

Please note, that Debian advises not using "unetbootin" for this task. It can cause difficult-to-diagnose problems with booting and installing, so is not recommended.

I assume that it was decided that there was little point in duplicating all the possible ways to write the iso on the Installation page, and covering all the pitfalls and FAQ's. Hence the links to the original HowTo from Debian.


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#8 2016-01-12 23:46:43

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Does the flashdrive work if you write a different ISO image to the device?

I think our ISO builder uses a 32-bit machine but we will have to wait for him to arrive.

Yes, it is the same flashdrive I used with the 64 bit image and it worked perfectly then.


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#9 2016-01-13 14:47:55

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Update:

I burned the image on a DVD and it worked from there.
Pretty weird, but it did solve my problem.

I wonder if anyone else experienced the same issues.

Thanks again for your help.

All the best!!


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#10 2016-01-13 14:54:26

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Glad you got something sorted out.

If you could edit the title of your first post and add [SOLVED], it might help others with a similar problem.


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#11 2016-01-13 16:38:22

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Thanks, Damo!

That was solved for me, but it still has not worked from the flashdrive.

This might be something to look into for future releases.

Peace.


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#12 2016-01-13 23:12:37

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

If you ever try burning the ISO to USB again, do the following...

Use a torrent client instead of downloading directly. That will guarantee a valid ISO (no need to run md5checksum).

Use the cp command to transfer the ISO. If the flash is identified as /dev/sdb1 than you will cp the ISO to /dev/sdb (without the number). So, for 64 bit, cd into the directory the ISO is in and run...

sudo cp bl-Hydrogen-rc1-amd64.iso /dev/sdb;sync

I don't care what you do at home. Would you care to explain?

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#13 2016-01-21 21:17:26

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Sorry to disturb, but the flash drive issue is not solved, we have a confirmation that it works burning a DVD !

I have tried both direct download and torrent download with md5sum correct in both cases and both dd and cp to create a bootable flashstick but it doesn't work.

I have to have a working flashstick as my laptop doesn't have a cd drive.

Any new ideas are welcome.

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#14 2016-03-29 17:20:47

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Hey,

I just downloaded the 32bit .iso file and attempted to load iso in VirtualBox to run the live CD. I get exactly the same error as Bradypus.
I used the torrent download, and I loaded the downloaded iso straight into the VB virtual disk drive.
Any proposals on how to fix this?

Cheers,

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#15 2016-03-29 18:04:38

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

The problem using the 32bit .iso just solved itself. My VirtualBox app didn't show the option to make a virtual machine based on a 64bit OS - so I checked my BIOS settings to make sure virtualisation was on (which it was), rebooted and for some reason now it allows me to make 64bit OS VMs, and when I tried launching the bunsenlabs OS it worked without any problem.
I'm a bit puzzled, since as such I didn't do anything apart from a restart of my computer..

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#16 2016-07-18 05:00:39

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

I got hit upside the head with the unetbootin stick but didn't realize what the issue was until I found this thread.  Thanks.  Format drive.  Run dd from the terminal in Mac.  Watching the blue light on the USB stick flash in the dim light as I chew on Excederin and ponder beating whoever wrote this crap unetbootin program with an even bigger stick.  What crap.  I bet that's why the live debian image worked but it seemed to have issues.  I'm not expecting much from this old netbook but I figured it would make an excellent throw around writing tool.  If I drop it into the ocean or down a well in a corn field or it's stolen by rioting protesters, it's no great loss. It's light and small and has a keyboard that works.  I need to figure out how to disable the trackpad once I get it up and running.  It gets bumped a lot typing and makes for interesting problems at times.  Thanks again.  Cheers!

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#17 2016-07-18 07:25:42

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Re: Issue with 32b live image [SOLVED]

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I think our ISO builder uses a 32-bit machine but we will have to wait for him to arrive.

I missed this before. No, live-build can only build the architecture it's run on AFAIK, so I have both 32 bit and 64 bit installs set up.


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