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nobody0 · 2016-04-21 21:26:34

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

Warning: the standard installer will wipe the whole disk, as per the installation guide:

Which is pretty foolish and pretty poor.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-04-21 21:29:31

ostrolek wrote:

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:
Warning: the standard installer will wipe the whole disk, as per the installation guide:
Which is pretty foolish and pretty poor.

*shrugs* it's not really intended for a "normal" home system, the distribution is targeted at embedded devices, routers and purpose-built firewalls.

The chroot installation method works just fine anyway

EDIT: DistroWatch review here:
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issu … 706#alpine

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2016-04-21 21:32:32)

hhh · 2016-04-22 02:25:23

I thought it booted using OpenRC, or is that different from what you're talking about?

http://www.alpinelinux.org/about/

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-04-22 06:23:12

hhh wrote:

I thought it booted using OpenRC

Yes, it uses the busybox binary as /sbin/init

Booting is configured via /etc/rc.conf with some nifty command line tools:

empty@alpine ~ % rc-status
Runlevel: default
 openntpd                                                                  [  started  ]
 acpid                                                                     [  started  ]
 udev-postmount                                                            [  started  ]
Dynamic Runlevel: hotplugged
Dynamic Runlevel: needed/wanted
 sysfs                                                                     [  started  ]
 fsck                                                                      [  started  ]
 root                                                                      [  started  ]
 localmount                                                                [  started  ]
 klogd                                                                     [  started  ]
 dbus                                                                      [  started  ]
Dynamic Runlevel: manual

Snap · 2016-04-22 06:48:02

That sounds to me like OpenRC, but on top of busybox instead of the usual sysvinit. OpenRC it's not an init system per se. It works on top of an init system in order to give a more user friendly and more convenient services management plus services supervision.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-04-30 10:50:32

I've just found out that suckless (the wonderful people who brought us dmenu, slock & dwm) seems to have resurrected the sta.li project:

http://sta.li/

It's a fascinating distribution, it uses statically-linked binaries compiled with muscl libc and boots with sinit, the suckless systemd alternative.

There is no package manager, package installation & upgrades are performed via `git pull`

The installation instructions are amusingly l33t:
http://sta.li/installation

Their basic kernel configuration doesn't work on my hardware (no surprise there) so I've just used the ABS to rebuild the (highly modularised) Arch kernel without the modules (because statically-linked, keep up) so let's try booting with that instead 8)

If this actually works, I will be very surprised...

EDIT: It worked!

$DEITY knows what I'm going to do with it but I now have a sta.li system
https://github.com/Head-on-a-Stick/conf … r/grub.cfg

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2016-04-30 11:00:15)

nobody0 · 2016-05-01 14:50:25

I had forgotten Devuan, but this reminded me of it. It took sometime to install, for it is using the Debian installer (or a clone of it). Finally I have the new Debian fork without Systemd. Screeny. Only, it might not stay too long without systemd.

jalexander9 · 2016-06-02 18:25:24

I saw an interesting Manjaro distro: manjaro-bspwm-16.05-i686, last night, so I had to take a look.

If you like tiling window managers this distro looks exquisite. (I am not saying me, my learning curve for tiling wm's needs much more study and preparation for there to be angels, cherubims and hosannahs!)

Nevertheless, I liked this alot.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-06-02 18:56:04

jalexander9 wrote:

manjaro-bspwm-16.05-i686

Oooh, nice!

Thanks for the heads-up

*Runs off to steal scripts*

EDIT:

I archived my Alpine Linux system this weekend, wiped the drive and installed OpenBSD-current again.

Somewhat typically, Alpine 3.4 was released the next day...
http://alpinelinux.org/posts/Alpine-3.4.0-released.html

Ah well, OpenBSD is awesome anyway

The iwn(4) driver seems to be improved and the hardware support for my ThinkPad X201 is utterly peerless.

On the downside, my SSD doesn't seem to like the standard filesystem and is very slow

We really need an OpenBSD port of DragonFly BSD's HAMMER filesystem.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2016-06-02 19:02:34)

Snap · 2016-06-03 07:51:40

Never tried Dragonfly, yet. Thanks for the headsup/reminder.

manjaro-bspwm

I have it around as a reference. It's really interesting peeking there. But I find it a bit of a mess. Half of the tricks and tweaks they use are useless or annoying for me. A way simpler config does it better for my needs. Anyway, a great source to "borrow" ideas and configs.

Last edited by Snap (2016-06-03 07:52:26)

g33zr · 2016-06-04 20:32:34

There are only two official Manjaro DEs, Xfce and KDE, but several interesting community editions that offer something for everyone. Some are "better" than others, but some of you might want to check out OpenRC and LxQt. Manjaro has come a long, long way since its first release.

hhh · 2016-06-05 22:31:42

GNOME 3.18 from a daily PPA on Ubuntu 16.04 (mini.iso install)...

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 193#p29193

It's pretty amazing. In Xorg it's close to perfect and it's 98% of the way there in Wayland. So why, dear GNOME...

1. Why are extensions such a PITA?!?? That crap took half an hour, enable it OOTB with some decent defaults, for Dog's sake.

2. What the hell is it with the integration??!!? System font doesn't effect the damn panel, WTF? I have to install and edit a 3rd party theme because your own instructions for extracting the shell theme from flipping gresources (?!!FRICK! WTF??!!!) aren't working for me. I am breaking thumbs to change the clock font, screw you.

3. GNOME TWEAK TOOL, WHEN WILL IT DIE????!!!? It just keeps hanging around like a zombie red-headed step-child. Dammit, integrate it into Gnome Control Center already so I don't have keyboard settings under two different GUIs, this ghetto setup is reminding me of Openbox.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-06-06 06:27:07

^ GNOME 3.20 is nicer

The thing to remember with GNOME is that the developers don't want you to change the look of their desktop too much 'cos of branding.

Don't fight it, go with it...

Oh, and use dconf-editor (or `gsettings`) rather than GNOME-Tweak-Tool

Snap · 2016-06-06 06:59:57

nobody0 wrote:

I had forgotten Devuan, but this reminded me of it. It took sometime to install, for it is using the Debian installer (or a clone of it). Finally I have the new Debian fork without Systemd. Screeny. Only, it might not stay too long without systemd.

It's not difficult to run Debian without systemd if you keep an eye on what you install. I run a bunch of systems (Jessie and Sid) with OpenRC on top of sysvinit and systemd never tried to jump in. Of course better don't try to install Gnome LOL.

hhh · 2016-06-06 11:18:26

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The thing to remember with GNOME is that the developers don't want you to change the look of their desktop too much 'cos of branding.

I know, it's so stoopid it makes we scream. How the fuck is Cantarell for a clock font important to the GNOME brand? GGGGGAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

^ GNOME 3.20 is nicer

I'll install it tonight!

Oh, and use dconf-editor (or `gsettings`) rather than GNOME-Tweak-Tool

I have, and that's insane. "Sounds" in the Control Center didn't change the alert sound ("Drip", hearing that repeatedly is akin to Chinese Water Torture), I had to disable it via dconf-editor. So I'm using 3 (!) GUI tools to configure the desktop environment. Slick branding there, GNOME. *spits and glares*

hhh · 2016-06-09 22:56:38

Happily hopping distros and desktops!

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 546#p29546

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 445#p29445

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 392#p29392

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 341#p29341

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 348#p29348

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 260#p29260

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 449#p29449

LOL, it's been a fun week!

mrneilypops · 2016-06-17 16:48:00

i3live = i3wm + Debian Jessie (relaunch )

i3live summer '16 dev ISO release

Debian Jessie+i3wm
i3 4.11bpo
firefox esr
smxi
spaceFM
ranger
sublime text 3
redshift
binary clock
glances
dmenu-extended

login:live
pass:live

https://www.i3live.org/i3live-summer-16 … o-release/
https://sourceforge.net/projects/i3live/

hhh · 2016-06-27 01:26:00

Just released, Peppermint 7.

https://peppermintos.com/2016/06/peppermint-7-released/

https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 841#p30841

It's Openbox xfwm4 (without xfce4-desktop or xfce4-session), nemo, sakura and xfce4-appfinder on top of Ubuntu xenial. Lovely, I adore their default dark theme and icon set. Very curious what their Firefox workaround is for the dark theme. A little heavy on resources, 275 MB desktop running a music player on 32 bit, BL is under 200. I had the same pulseaudio glitch that I get in BL where unmuting doesn't work right.

Great wallpapers. I'm impressed, the devs have made some interesting choices.

No idea what the compositor is, neither compton, xcompmngr nor cairo are installed. -edit- Ah, I was wrong about them using Openbox, it's Xfce4.

mrneilypops · 2016-06-29 18:38:54

jessiebox = openbox + jessie

firefox esr
vivaldi browser [snapshot]
smxi
spaceFM rolling
ranger
sublime text 3
redshift
glances

new dev ISO (782M) to try;
https://www.amazon.de/clouddrive/share/ … _link_copy

MD5;
https://www.amazon.de/clouddrive/share/ … _link_copy

https://www.jessiebox.org

Last edited by mrneilypops (2016-06-29 18:48:26)

wagmic · 2016-07-01 14:13:31

Thanks mrneilypops i ll give it a try !!!

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