[STABLE RELEASE] BunsenLabs Hydrogen

ghorvath · 2016-05-11 05:58:12

hhh wrote:

I'll put up a thread detailing the differences once the dust has settled here (busy!) You can start by installing all the missing applications in the right-click menu. Switch leafpad for Geany and whatever terminal I used (lx or xfce) for terminator, and you're getting close.

Not to sound ungrateful or to rush this or anything, but is there some date when we can expect such a list?

Thanks for all the work.

johnraff · 2016-05-11 06:09:19

hhh wrote:

(having flashplugin-nonfree) It works, so all good, I say.

Especially considering the mess pepperflash has got into.

-edit- @johnraff, although our apt settings default to with recommends, the live build is actually without recs. I think users should run...
sudo apt install -no-install-recommends bunsen-meta-all
/opinion

This is a tricky one. Agreed, it would be better to install the apps without recommends, like the iso itself, but the metapackage recommends the packages on the list, it doesn't depend on them. If users ran that command they'd get nothing installed.

It's about allowing the user freedom to uninstall apps they don't want. If the metapackage depended on the list, then just uninstalling one app would trigger the removal of the metapackage, and make all the rest orphans which would be removed by the next 'apt-get autoremove'.

I wish there was a way to install the recommends of a package without having it go recursive, but I don't think there is. We could have a second package bunsen-meta-all-deps with the apps list as depends and users who wanted to keep their install size down could use that one, with the nasty gotcha mentioned above.

johnraff · 2016-05-11 06:11:43

ghorvath wrote:

hhh wrote:
I'll put up a thread detailing the differences once the dust has settled here (busy!) You can start by installing all the missing applications in the right-click menu. Switch leafpad for Geany and whatever terminal I used (lx or xfce) for terminator, and you're getting close.
Not to sound ungrateful or to rush this or anything, but is there some date when we can expect such a list?
Thanks for all the work.

The metapackage is in the repo. Just do

sudo apt-get install bunsen-meta-all

to get all the apps in the regular iso (plus their recommends as a bonus).

ghorvath · 2016-05-11 11:54:15

johnraff wrote:

The metapackage is in the repo. Just do
sudo apt-get install bunsen-meta-all
to get all the apps in the regular iso (plus their recommends as a bonus).

Ah I see, great, thank you!

BTW, why is fdpowermon and fdpowermon-icons a dependency of this meta package? As far as I understand, for desktop machines it is removed immediately anyway by bl-welcome, and for laptops the backported xfce4-power-manager is installed instead of this.

damo · 2016-05-11 11:57:02

ghorvath wrote:

... and for laptops the backported xfce4-power-manager is installed instead of this.

Only if the user chooses to.

ghorvath · 2016-05-11 12:49:13

damo wrote:

ghorvath wrote:
... and for laptops the backported xfce4-power-manager is installed instead of this.
Only if the user chooses to.

So what if I want to choose this and want to remove fdpowermon? Then it will uninstall the meta-package, and will put all of its other recommendations as removable by autoremove.

johnraff · 2016-05-11 14:57:36

ghorvath wrote:

So what if I want to choose this and want to remove fdpowermon? Then it will uninstall the meta-package, and will put all of its other recommendations as removable by autoremove.

No it's OK. That's why the packages are recommends and not hard dependencies. Even if you remove one, the metapackage will stay.

bonbonboi · 2016-05-14 15:10:16

Great! any changelog since rc2 ]:D

drink_n_drive · 2016-05-23 18:23:53

Congratulations! I'll keep seeding BL, as I always do.
Your work is much appreciated.

microaide · 2016-06-01 21:18:11

BL is awesome. I can install the CD sized ISO on my Asus 701 netbooks with a 4G SSD, add VLC, samba, and all the audio recording/editing software I use, and still have 1.3G free. And everything just works.

hhh · 2016-06-01 21:55:17

Thanks! I routinely install the full ISOs to a 6.3G testing partition with 3G to spare. We appreciate the feedback, and welcome to the forums!

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