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#1 2016-05-09 21:51:36

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Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Installed pepperflash/freshplayer via the bl-welcome script, but iceweasel shows error messages in the flashplayer window.

I then tried in a live session, just with pepperflashplugin...

$ sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
....
Setting up pepperflashplugin-nonfree (1.8.1) ...
ERROR: failed to retrieve status information from google : W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:
1397BC53640DB551

Is this a temporary situation until the package is updated with the new key? Is it the same googlebug as happened recently?

I know the key can be added manually to '/usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/pubkey-google.txt', but it isn't something a new user should have to do sad


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#2 2016-05-09 22:07:10

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Same stuff I saw on one Jessie machine that wasn't updated for a month or so.

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#3 2016-05-10 07:50:32

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Confirmed on a new laptop install. This is not good. I'm unable even to get the error message - I've tried purging and installing pepperflashplugin-nonfree and browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash and they pretend to succeed! No error messages at all. But flash in Iceweasel fails. I tried

wget -qO- https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub | sudo apt-key add -

but no change.

update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install

runs with no output at all, but returns '100' (ie fail).

the key can be added manually to '/usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/pubkey-google.txt'

This didn't seem to work either.

Adobe's flashplugin-nonfree works.

What can we do, other than tell users not to install the pepper stuff for the moment?


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#4 2016-05-10 08:17:45

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Purge adobes's flash plugin, stop the browser, install pepperflash, restart the browser worked for me yesterday.

Update:
This was on an hydrogen system with adobe flash installed, switching to pepperflash, not on a fresh install.

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#5 2016-05-10 08:29:09

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Just now:
Close browser.
Purge adobe and both the pepper packages.
Install browser-plugin-pepperflash-nonfree and pepperflashplugin-nonfree.
Open YouTube in Iceweasel.

Iceweasel wrote:

Failed to load "libpepflashplayer.so"

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#6 2016-05-10 08:46:12

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Just rebooted the that system.
You have to go into the iceweasel configuration, plug-ins tab and 'never activate' the shockwave plugin.

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#7 2016-05-10 08:56:02

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Finally

sudo bash -x /usr/sbin/update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree -install -v

produced the answer. Within the workings of that script was a message like (I cant copy/paste because it's a different machine)

W: Failed to fetch.....i386/Packages...

(The script doesn't output that message, which would have been helpful, but it goes into a variable.)

It's a 32 bit laptop.
Since Google have dropped the 32bit Chrome I guess that also means no more 32bit pepperflash.
The Debian maintainers should remove the 32bit packages I suppose, and that's one more thing to fix in bl-welcome... (sigh)...


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#8 2016-05-10 09:03:10

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Hmm,
Perhaps wait if damo can confirm that he got the error on a 32 bit machine too...

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#9 2016-05-10 09:31:10

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

64bit machine; problem is with both live session and a full install

Unlike @johnraff I was getting the full error message I posted, with the command

update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --status ( and --install)

I had also tried purging both plugins, and adding the signing key with the wget command, as well as the apt-key commands.


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#10 2016-05-10 09:37:19

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

My 64bit main desktop also outputs the error messages. It seems that update script is a bit stingy with its information, even in verbose mode (with -v), and on my 32bit lappy it just fails silently.

@damo does that mean flash still isn't working for you?


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#11 2016-05-10 09:41:28

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

johnraff wrote:

@damo does that mean flash still isn't working for you?

I had a default BL install on another partition, and found that flash videos weren't working. I reinstalled and found the same thing, as described. My main working installation is fine, so I am suspecting it is another upstream issue with the google signing key. I'm away from my machines for another 10 hours, so I can't give any more info atm.

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#12 2016-05-10 12:49:15

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Just to be clear, flashplayer wasn't working with either iceweasel with the freshplayer plugin, or chromium. In iceweasel the player window showed the "Failed to load "libpepflashplayer.so" message; in chromium I got "Failed to load plugin" or similar, IIRC.

On the commandline, when installing the plugins, I get the "no public key available" error message.


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#13 2016-05-10 12:50:09

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

madoromi wrote:

Besides, the original problem affects all of Debian/Ubuntu because some packages haven't been updated to match a change in Google's keys. It's an upstream problem.

That's what I was originally asking. Is it just a question of waiting?


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#14 2016-05-10 17:44:19

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Does Google-Chrome work?

EDIT: Give me a minute and I'll check in the live environment.

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#15 2016-05-10 19:27:25

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

So flashplayer installs but pepperflash doesn't (same error as posted by damo).

Once flashplayer is installed, both Iceweasel and Chromium pass the Flash Player test here (with version 11.2.202.616):
https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player.html

If Google-Chrome is installed from the menu, pepperflash works fine and has the current version (21.0.0.216).

I guess we'll just have to wait for upstream to pull their finger out hmm

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#16 2016-05-11 06:51:14

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

Meanwhile, it also looks as if 32bit support has gone.

-----------------------------------------------------------

Just out of morbid interest I found a bug in /usr/sbin/update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree

It's a shell script (Copyright 2006-2013) which starts with

set -e

So any command which fails will make the script exit. Later, from line 174:

	[ "$verbose" != "yes" ] || echo "doing apt-get update on google repository"
	stdouterr=`APT_CONFIG=apt.conf apt-get --quiet --quiet update 2>&1`
	[ "$stdouterr" = "" ] || die_hard_with_a_cleanup "failed to retrieve status information from google : $stdouterr"

It looks as if it's meant to check for error messages from apt-get and do a cleanup before exiting if there are any. Unfortunately, if apt-get throws an error it will return non-zero so the 'set -e' will cause the script to exit immediately without running the cleanup. The i386 package list is now unavailable so on a 32bit system apt-get returns 100, and the script exits silently. I can confirm that the temporary directory which should have been removed remains in this case.

Aah, I've just looked at the same file in Sid (v1.8.2) and it's been fixed with an ' || true' at the end of the apt-get command.

The 32bit issue looks true though, but getting no attention to date: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … bug=816848


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#17 2016-05-11 07:06:33

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

johnraff wrote:

it also looks as if 32bit support has gone

Yeah, that happened a while ago  8.(

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/01/goog … scontinued

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#18 2016-05-11 07:50:40

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

I knew about google-chrome, but I hadn't thought it through and got the implications for pepperflash.

Drat. Back to Adobe for my two laptops, or figure out how to use html5. Maybe Firefox's support has got better lately.


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#19 2016-05-11 17:58:00

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

johnraff wrote:

Maybe Firefox's support has got better lately.

It works OK ... on Windows. :\

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I just tried the backport of the release ver of firefox ... in a VM ... and it did work ... but not exactly well. hmm

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#20 2016-05-11 18:04:39

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Re: Flashplayer not working on fresh installation

geekosupremo wrote:
johnraff wrote:

Maybe Firefox's support has got better lately.

It works OK ... on Windows. :\

FF does play VP9 and h.264 out of the box as it seems (If we are talking about html5 video support).

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