Questions about BL v CB++

0-day · 2016-02-18 13:17:14

is #!++ stable?

pvsage · 2016-02-18 13:23:22

^ We don't know; the developer of that has chosen a separate path from BunsenLabs.

EDIT: The latest actionable intel we have on #!++ is that there are still serious transitional bugs related to the differences between Wheezy and Jessie.

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0-day · 2016-02-18 13:31:57

which is more like crunchbang?

damo · 2016-02-18 17:37:58

0-day wrote:

which is more like crunchbang?

Try them both and decide for yourself.

ohnonot · 2016-02-18 19:36:02

0-day wrote:

why rc, is it no final release?

please consider, which is better development:

somebody makes a distro, releases it into the wild and calls it "release"
somebody makes a distro, releases it into the wild and asks the community to test it, look out for bugs, and help improve it, and calls it "release candidate"

these are the facts to be considered.

now my personal opinion: bunsenlabs release candidates are much more stable (and generally just better ) than other distros that are considered released by their devs.

Horizon_Brave · 2016-02-18 19:41:19

ohnonot wrote:

0-day wrote:
why rc, is it no final release?
please consider, which is better development:
somebody makes a distro, releases it into the wild and calls it "release"
somebody makes a distro, releases it into the wild and asks the community to test it, look out for bugs, and help improve it, and calls it "release candidate"
these are the facts to be considered.

now my personal opinion: bunsenlabs release candidates are much more stable (and generally just better ) than other distros that are considered released by their devs.

Heavy emphasis with the taking the community's input to help improve it. That, to me, is pretty important.

hhh · 2016-02-18 22:22:16

Splitting BL v CB++ discussion to it's own thread, thanks.

pvsage · 2016-02-18 22:33:31

^ Thank you.

Horizon_Brave wrote:

Heavy emphasis with the taking the community's input to help improve it. That, to me, is pretty important essential.

Fixed.

The reason our developers want so much community feedback on release candidates is because a diverse community will have users that do things on an everyday basis that the developers would consider "edge cases"; this way more bugs get trapped.

hhh · 2016-02-18 23:55:15

I had checked in on CB++ a while back and the site was down. Good news, it's back up...
https://crunchbangplusplus.org/news/

They've released v1.0, based on the jessie neinst.iso. That ISO supports UEFI bootin (but not secure boot)...
https://crunchbangplusplus.org/download/

Their Community link is a subreddit...
https://www.reddit.com/r/crunchbangplusplus

We wish CB++ (and CB-Monara, for that matter) the best of luck!

spacex · 2016-02-19 03:30:11

What are they missing in BunsenLabs that they got with #! ? The default-tile and the waldorf-theme? There is one thing that everybody can be 100% sure of, BunsenLabs is going to be better supported, developed and maintained, than all the CrunchBang clones combined.

People with skills can pick up just about any distro, it doesn't matter at all, because people with skills can do exactly the same with all of them. But people who aren't all that advanced, needs to take a serious look at where they are going to get the best support. I have no doubt that BunsenLabs will be the best choice for the average user in the long run.

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lowrider · 2016-02-19 03:33:32

I still smell the bad taste in my mouth when this guy comes up in the #! forum with cb++ and showing no respect of corepas decision to not use the term crunchbang for what will follow.

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MAC the Bloody · 2016-02-19 04:54:26

Yup, exactly what spacex and lowrider said.

nobody0 · 2016-02-19 12:49:41

spacex wrote:

because people with skills can do exactly the same with all of them

Isn't it a question of configuring the appearance and the menu and adding a panel (or dock) to the bare bone Openbox, whatever the base operating system?

KrunchTime · 2016-02-24 16:29:04

Great responses, all. @0-day...just use BL and be done with it.

j0z3ph0s · 2016-02-24 20:29:51

spacex wrote:

But people who aren't all that advanced, needs to take a serious look at where they are going to get the best support. I have no doubt that BunsenLabs will be the best choice for the average user in the long run.

Boom. And that's why I am here.

Rocky · 2016-02-24 21:22:35

From my experience already with BL ( havent tried cb++) and especially with the thoughtful way the welcome script has been written that BL is a good choice for the average user (like me - not afraid to look under the bonnet but certainly not an expert in comparison to some of the forum members). I can envisage family members using BL.

redcollective · 2016-02-24 22:42:08

You can hear the tumbleweed rustling as it blows lazily by on the the cb++ reddit forum.

Community is what makes a distro. If I were looking to install a distro from the Crunchbang lineage I'd select a community with a lively forum, a sense of purpose, a commonality of spirit, and a forward looking vision.

And here I am.

*group hug*

red

hhh · 2016-02-25 02:22:04

^Hugging back at you.

becker_11 · 2016-02-25 09:19:02

The community was the best thing about Crunchbang and because of that I learnt a hell of a lot.

BL has the same feeling about it and as a result we are all here.

For most of us a Debian netinstall with X, a terminal and a browser is all we would need to put our own OS together there was certainly enough guides on the #! forums that showed the way.

So thanks to the core BL team for their hard work and for continuing the great #! community experience over here.

KrunchTime · 2016-02-25 23:31:38

becker_11 wrote:

The community was the best thing about Crunchbang and because of that I learnt a hell of a lot.
BL has the same feeling about it and as a result we are all here.
For most of us a Debian netinstall with X, a terminal and a browser is all we would need to put our own OS together there was certainly enough guides on the #! forums that showed the way.
So thanks to the core BL team for their hard work and for continuing the great #! community experience over here.

+1

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