New toy need a little help...

sinister · 2016-01-20 03:26:24

Got me a new toy!! HP 2000 laptop 64bit. I can post more info if needed.
Installed Debian stable XFCE4 from usb/iso added "stretch" repos to grab the newest XFCE4 (4.12), and 4.3.0-1-amd64 kernel, un-commented stretch repos ran bleachbit as root and normal to clear apt out. Installed conky-all, fancontrol all that stuff. I'm having trouble getting conky to show the fanspeed. I've googled and looked through countless arch-wiki pages and cant find anything. when i first got the laptop and switched it on and went into bios it showed a fan speed rpm reading but after I enabled Legacy support to boot the usb and install Debian that fan rpm doesn't show in bios. Considering it did show me the fan rpm i assume I should be able to get conky to print it out.
Any help at all would be awesome and greatly appreciated!!

johnraff · 2016-01-20 05:37:23

Moving this support topic to "Help & Support (Other)".
"Scripts, Tutorials & Tips" is for sharing stuff that works.

sinister · 2016-01-20 05:40:49

my apologies sir

KrunchTime · 2016-01-20 05:46:44

Perhaps one of our conky wizards, Sector11, will drop by and be able to offer assistance.

Last edited by KrunchTime (2016-01-20 05:47:03)

sinister · 2016-01-20 05:58:40

S11 has def helped me learn alot about conky back at the #! forums. Great guy aswell

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-20 07:54:19

sinister wrote:

added "stretch" repos

As I noted in the testing/unstable thread you have compromised the reliability and stability of your system by doing this.

Bleachbit won't fix a FrankenDebian

I would recommend starting again from scratch and using backported packages for any new stuff you really need.

KrunchTime · 2016-01-20 08:03:23

sinister wrote:

S11 has def helped me learn alot about conky back at the #! forums. Great guy aswell

+1...he is a great guy; very personable.

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

sinister wrote:
added "stretch" repos
As I noted in the testing/unstable thread you have compromised the reliability and stability of your system by doing this.
Bleachbit won't fix a FrankenDebian
I would recommend starting again from scratch and using backported packages for any new stuff you really need.

+1

Last edited by KrunchTime (2016-01-20 08:04:12)

ohnonot · 2016-01-20 08:36:06

^ agreed!

yet, this seems to be pointing in a different direction:

sinister wrote:

when i first got the laptop and switched it on and went into bios it showed a fan speed rpm reading but after I enabled Legacy support to boot the usb and install Debian that fan rpm doesn't show in bios.

pvsage · 2016-01-20 09:51:33

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

I would recommend starting again from scratch and using backported packages for any new stuff you really need.

Either this or fully committing to Stretch (removing the jessie/stable repos). Be aware that practically every package will be upgraded in this case, and there's a good chance of utilities in your X environment (or X itself) going down during the dist-upgrade, so you'll want to kill X and be in a virtual terminal during this process.

Sector11 · 2016-01-20 12:01:53

@ sinsiter

Agree with the above .. start over, and then follow what's below.

Did you install and setup lmsensors, hddtemp and inxi?

INXI makes seeing what 'result' of sensors belongs to what piece of equipment, very handy.
My alias: sensen

 20 Jan 16 | 08:50:42 ~
  $ sensen
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1:        +30.0°C  (crit = +110.0°C)

f71862fg-isa-0a00
Adapter: ISA adapter
+3.3V:        +3.50 V  
in1:          +1.35 V  
in2:          +1.51 V  
in3:          +0.86 V  
in4:          +0.00 V  
in5:          +0.00 V  
in6:          +0.00 V  
3VSB:         +3.39 V  
Vbat:         +3.02 V  
fan1:        2546 RPM
fan2:           0 RPM  ALARM
fan3:           0 RPM  ALARM
temp1:        +46.0°C  (high = +85.0°C, hyst = +81.0°C)
                       (crit = +255.0°C, hyst = +251.0°C)  sensor = transistor
temp2:        +45.0°C  (high = +85.0°C, hyst = +81.0°C)
                       (crit = +100.0°C, hyst = +96.0°C)  sensor = thermistor
temp3:       +127.0°C  (high = +70.0°C, hyst = +68.0°C)  ALARM (CRIT)
                       (crit = +85.0°C, hyst = +83.0°C)  sensor = transistor

k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1:        +37.0°C  (high = +70.0°C)

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0C mobo: 37.1C gpu: 52C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 2546 fan-2: 0 fan-3: 0
 
 20 Jan 16 | 08:59:06 ~
  $

EDIT: This I hope isn't the problem:

after I enabled Legacy support ....

sinister · 2016-01-20 20:44:24

EDIT: This I hope isn't the problem:

after I enabled Legacy support ....

yes i installed lm-sensors hddtemp and fanspeed or fancontrol i forget which is the proper name if im not mistaken i added them from jessie repos

without enabling legacy support it wouldnt boot from the usb stick.
basically i fresh installed debian stable xfce iso then added stretch to the repos apt-get update installed xfce4 (4.12) and the kernel image and headers from there, uncommented stretch and apt-get clean apt-get auto-clean.

with all that said can i undo anything i upgraded or installed from stretch without having to start from scratch?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-20 20:52:41

sinister wrote:

with all that said can i undo anything i upgraded or installed from stretch without having to start from scratch?

Add the MX-15 repositories, update your package database (`apt update`) then re-install the desktop -- it should pull all the packages from MX-15 and these will be "safe".

I don't know if this will actually work but it's worth a try.

Check the origin of any given package with `apt-cache policy $PACKAGE`

EDIT: Look at:

apt-cache policy libc6

If that's been pulled from stretch then you will have to reinstall.

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2016-01-20 20:54:58)

sinister · 2016-01-20 21:07:32

snstr ~$ apt-cache policy libc6
libc6:
  Installed: 2.21-6
  Candidate: 2.21-6
  Version table:
 *** 2.21-6 500
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
     2.19-18+deb8u1 500
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian jessie/main amd64 Packages
snstr ~$

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-20 21:09:21

I think you should re-install.

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-20 21:16:59

If you're feeling experimental, you can try this technique:
https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debi … owngrading

Be aware that the method is intended for testing/unstable and may not work at all if you try to go back to a stable base.

Be sure to backup all important files before attempting it.

sinister · 2016-01-20 21:22:26

think i may just reinstall from scratch the debian-xfce iso nothing important really i just mainly edited the look, ie, icons fonts themes colors etc.
or can i go with BL 64bit iso and convert from openbox to xfce4 safely?

Head_on_a_Stick · 2016-01-20 21:24:41

sinister wrote:

can i go with BL 64bit iso and convert from openbox to xfce4 safely?

If you want, yes.

Just install the XFCE desktop and select it from the LightDM (login) screen

Last edited by Head_on_a_Stick (2016-01-20 21:27:17)

hhh · 2016-01-21 10:49:44

My 2 cents... Xfce components are wonderfully modular (MATE, too I'm discovering) once you free yourself of the meta-packages. Install the components (xfce4-settings, thunar, etc...) without installing the meta-package FTW...
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/xfce4

sinister · 2016-01-22 02:00:52

yea i totally fell in love with xcfe4 and ver 4.12 is even better than 4.10 imho. i ended up doing a fresh install of BL and installing xfce4, although its not 4.10 its awesome. ill post screens of my set up ...compton, conky, window manager...etc in the monthly SS thread shortly. thanks to all for your input, advice and help. the support is what drew me to #! in the first place and i love that it continues here with BL.

FYI i think i'll keep away from "testing" "unstable" "experimental" repos. may get brave and play with them on vm.

Edit: i still can't find out how to get my fan rpm to show in conky.. maybe my motherboard doesn't support it or something?

S11 haaaaaaaallllpppp lol

Last edited by sinister (2016-01-22 02:07:07)

ohnonot · 2016-01-22 16:02:51

sinister wrote:

Edit: i still can't find out how to get my fan rpm to show in conky.. maybe my motherboard doesn't support it or something?
S11 haaaaaaaallllpppp lol

i think we never established whether the problem is in your bios or your operating system.
anyhow, i'd first install the common utilities (i think it depends a little on your hardware, just search your packet manager)(*) and see if i can measure fan speed without conky, 'mkay?

fwiw, i used to have these lines in my conky:

${hwmon fan 1}
${hwmon fan 2}

(*) usual suspect: lm-sensors

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