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#81 2026-08-18 04:27:24

johnraff
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Re: AI discussions

^worth sharing.


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#82 2026-09-03 13:59:38

greenjeans
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Re: AI discussions

Pertinent to this subject, Debian voted on a new general resolution about AI, the winner was option #5 which basically says they neither endorse nor condemn it's use and developers are free to use it but asks that they do so responsibly. Scroll about halfway down that page for #5, and to the bottom for results.
https://www.debian.org/vote/2026/vote_002#texta
Snippet:

"Debian neither endorses nor prohibits the use of generative AI tools in the development, maintenance, or documentation of software, packaging, documentation, and other media published within the Debian Project. We recognize that such tools can substantially improve the productivity of contributors when used responsibly, allowing volunteers to spend more of their limited time on work that requires technical expertise, judgment, review, and collaboration.

The Debian Project nevertheless expects that all contributions submitted to Debian, regardless of how and with which tools they were produced, satisfy the same standards of quality, correctness, maintainability, and legal compliance. The use of a generative AI tool does not diminish the contributor's responsibility for the work they submit. Contributors are expected to understand, review, test, and, where appropriate, modify AI-assisted output before incorporating it into Debian. Blindly accepting or uploading AI-generated material without appropriate human review is inconsistent with Debian's established development practices. We encourage our contributors to disclose whether a contribution was made with AI assitance, but do not require them to do so."

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#83 2026-09-03 15:55:41

Sector11
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Re: AI discussions

Personally I would have preferred:

Blindly accepting or uploading AI-generated material without appropriate human review is inconsistent with Debian's established development practices. You must make a disclosure if a contribution was made with AI assistance."

But it is a good #5 regardless


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#84 2026-09-08 00:22:40

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Re: AI discussions

I'm sorry, just had to do one more meme on this subject, please forgive the large image:

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#85 2026-09-08 16:56:23

Sector11
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Re: AI discussions

Frame #4 - can't you just see the evil thoughts in Bug's and Daffy’s heads.

lol lol lol lol lol
LOVE IT!


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#86 2026-09-08 19:05:39

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Re: AI discussions

I like what you wrote.

We require disclosure like this from all who write things for us. But there's no secure answer. I get sorely annoyed when the disclosure is "AI and other computer generated content may be reponsible for this content". (swearing from me now)

Sector11 wrote:

Personally I would have preferred:

Blindly accepting or uploading AI-generated material without appropriate human review is inconsistent with Debian's established development practices. You must make a disclosure if a contribution was made with AI assistance."

But it is a good #5 regardless


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#87 Today 10:56:17

Colonel Panic
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Re: AI discussions

Third time lucky today - I had two duds recently with the latest version of Zenwalk (couldn't get the sound working), and Exton OpSys (based on Open SUSE Tumbleweed), when I got into an interminable boot loop which kept on loading and then unloading one of the device drivers. Thankfully Exton Defender (based on Fedora 44) is all working as it should be.

https://defender.exton.se/extondefender … ld-260718/

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#88 Today 17:32:04

greenjeans
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Re: AI discussions

Colonel Panic wrote:

Third time lucky today - I had two duds recently with the latest version of Zenwalk (couldn't get the sound working), and Exton OpSys (based on Open SUSE Tumbleweed), when I got into an interminable boot loop which kept on loading and then unloading one of the device drivers. Thankfully Exton Defender (based on Fedora 44) is all working as it should be.

https://defender.exton.se/extondefender … ld-260718/

Interesting that they did some mods to Refracta-Snapshot, I use it myself and have contributed some minor code bits, it says they made it into a GUI, but it already has a basic GUI version using yad dialogs. Any chance you could take a screenie of that? I'd like to see what they've done.

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