bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin available for testing

johnraff · 2026-08-08 04:24:14

hhh wrote:

johnraff wrote:
But there doesn't seem to be a way on Wayland to do a screenshot of the "active window". I use that a lot, but it seems to be very difficult to do on Wayland.
grimshot, a helper for grim and slurp...
https://packages.debian.org/unstable/grimshot
EXAMPLES
An example usage pattern is to add these bindings to your sway config:
# Screenshots:
# Super+P: Current window
# Super+Shift+p: Select area
# Super+Alt+p Current output
# Super+Ctrl+p Select a window
bindsym Mod4+p exec grimshot save active
bindsym Mod4+Shift+p exec grimshot save area
bindsym Mod4+Mod1+p exec grimshot save output
bindsym Mod4+Ctrl+p exec grimshot save window
https://manpages.debian.org/testing/gri … .1.en.html
It has a dependency on sway, but I think that's fine if it works with labwc and the other wlroots compositors. The sway package is pretty light (977 kB), that's a bit bigger than labwc, I think. Make it an optional package if it's an issue of size? I haven't tested this yet, but it looks promising.

I just installed grimshot and while it takes wholescreen and "select area" screenshots OK, the "active" and "window" targets don't seem to work. I guess you need to be running sway not labwc.
Maybe as XFCE said, it can't currently be done with wlroots?

I had a look at the code - it's a shell script - and it calls swaymsg to get the active window, so I guess that means sway has to be running.

Last edited by johnraff (2026-08-08 04:29:51)

hhh · 2026-08-08 04:31:09

^ Bummer. I found this and it's response, it's a quick read...

https://github.com/labwc/labwc/discussions/3299

We can ask for some info from @malm. I now summon @malm. Appear!

unklar · 2026-08-08 08:20:11

^I've got it now

pgrep -a labwc

the same result

1279 /usr/bin/labwc --config-dir /home/unklar/.config/bunsen/labwc --startup /usr/lib/bunsen/configs/bunsen-autostart

I removed the directory ~/.config/labwc with the 4 files (autostart, environment, menu.xml and rc.xml).

In my opinion there is a mixture. still in ~/.config/bunsen/autotart-wayland and ~/.config/bunsen/environment-wayland
to
~/.config/bunsen/labwc/autostart and ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/environment

I assume I should remove these too because they are identical to the files from the removed ~/.config/labwc directory?

PS:if it is useful

❯ bl-xdg-autostart --list
[ ] Labwc Generate Menu
	  File: /home/unklar/.config/autostart/lab-gen-menu.desktop
	  Executes: lab-gen-menu
	* Excluded by: Hidden

[ ] Zwischenablage
	  File: /home/unklar/.config/autostart/xfce4-clipman-plugin-autostart.desktop
	  Executes: xfce4-clipman
	* Excluded by: OnlyShowIn (XFCE, X-Cinnamon)

[ ] Shutter
	  File: /home/unklar/.config/autostart/shutter.desktop
	  Executes: shutter
	* Excluded by: Hidden

[ ] xbindkeys
	  File: /home/unklar/.config/autostart/xbindkeys.desktop
	  Executes: xbindkeys_autostart
	* Excluded by: Hidden

[ ] picom
	  File: /home/unklar/.config/autostart/picom.desktop
	  Executes: picom
	* Excluded by: Hidden

[ ] Sicherheitsdienst
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-secrets.desktop
	  Executes: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=secrets
	* Excluded by: OnlyShowIn (GNOME, Unity, MATE)

[*] Xfce Bildschirmschoner
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/bunsen-exit-xfce4-screensaver.desktop
	  Executes: xfce4-screensaver

[*] Netzwerk-Manager-Applet
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop
	  Executes: nm-applet

[ ] SSH-Schlüsselagent
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-ssh.desktop
	  Executes: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=ssh
	* Excluded by: OnlyShowIn (GNOME, Unity, MATE)

[*] User folders update
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/xdg-user-dirs.desktop
	  Executes: xdg-user-dirs-update

[*] bl-xss-lock
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/bl-xss-lock.desktop
	  Executes: bl-xss-lock

[ ] Xfce Bildschirmschoner
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/xfce4-screensaver.desktop
	  Executes: xfce4-screensaver
	* Excluded by: OnlyShowIn (XFCE)

[*] AT-SPI D-Bus Bus
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/at-spi-dbus-bus.desktop
	  Executes: /usr/libexec/at-spi-bus-launcher --launch-immediately

[ ] Zertifikat-/Schlüsselverwahrung
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.desktop
	  Executes: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11
	* Excluded by: OnlyShowIn (GNOME, Unity, MATE)

[*] PolicyKit-Legitimationsagent
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1.desktop
	  Executes: /usr/libexec/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1

[ ] Energieverwaltung
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/xfce4-power-manager.desktop
	  Executes: xfce4-power-manager
	* Excluded by: OnlyShowIn (XFCE)

[*] Blueman Applet
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/blueman.desktop
	  Executes: blueman-applet

[ ] Xfce Benachrichtigungsdienst
	  File: /etc/xdg/autostart/xfce4-notifyd.desktop
	  Executes: sh -c "systemctl --user start xfce4-notifyd.service 2>/dev/null || exec /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd"
	* Excluded by: OnlyShowIn (XFCE)

Last edited by unklar (2026-08-08 08:56:50)

unklar · 2026-08-08 08:28:53

johnraff wrote:

unklar wrote:
Calling gmrun in the terminal results in the image below.
https://i.postimg.cc/1VwGp9SC/20260807- … s-grim.png
That looks OK. Can you run commands there?

Yes, I can do that.

So Alt+F3 brings up something that looks like dmenu, but different colours? That will be tofi.
But clicking one of the items does nothing??

And can you click on the items in that list to launch them?

I can click on it, none of the applications start.

johnraff · 2026-08-09 00:35:51

unklar wrote:

johnraff wrote:
unklar wrote:
Calling gmrun in the terminal results in the image below.
https://i.postimg.cc/1VwGp9SC/20260807- … s-grim.png
That looks OK. Can you run commands there?
Yes, I can do that.

OK so gmrun works.

So Alt+F3 brings up something that looks like dmenu, but different colours? That will be tofi.
But clicking one of the items does nothing??
And can you click on the items in that list to launch them?
I can click on it, none of the applications start.

Hmm... that needs looking into.

johnraff · 2026-08-09 00:49:33

unklar wrote:

^I've got it now
pgrep -a labwc
the same result
1279 /usr/bin/labwc --config-dir /home/unklar/.config/bunsen/labwc --startup /usr/lib/bunsen/configs/bunsen-autostart
I removed the directory ~/.config/labwc with the 4 files (autostart, environment, menu.xml and rc.xml).

It should not be necessary to remove ~/.config/labwc. Launched with the above command, labwc should ignore that directory, but if you go back to a non-BL session just calling "labwc" then those files will be used, so you can have both sessions configured.

In my opinion there is a mixture. still in ~/.config/bunsen/autotart-wayland and ~/.config/bunsen/environment-wayland
to
~/.config/bunsen/labwc/autostart and ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/environment

Yes there seems to be a possible issue whith labwc reading ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/autostart even if it's given a separate --startup script to run. But that file does not exist unless you put it there! bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin puts neither autostart nor environment in ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/ Just delete those files if you have them. The "vanilla" labwc session does not use them, it uses files in ~/.config/labwc. I think I'll put empty files there for autostart and environment with comments explaining the situation and what files BL users should edit.

I assume I should remove these too because they are identical to the files from the removed ~/.config/labwc directory?

Well, yes. But I'm puzzled how those files got into ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/ anyway.

PS:if it is useful

❯ bl-xdg-autostart --list
[ ] Labwc Generate Menu
	  File: /home/unklar/.config/autostart/lab-gen-menu.desktop
	  Executes: lab-gen-menu
	* Excluded by: Hidden
...etc...

That looks OK I think.

Last edited by johnraff (2026-08-09 01:27:54)

johnraff · 2026-08-09 06:01:29

johnraff wrote:

...there seems to be a possible issue with labwc reading ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/autostart even if it's given a separate --startup script to run. But that file does not exist unless you put it there! bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin puts neither autostart nor environment in ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/ Just delete those files if you have them. The "vanilla" labwc session does not use them, it uses files in ~/.config/labwc. I think I'll put empty files there for autostart and environment with comments explaining the situation and what files BL users should edit.

Now I think about it, it shouldn't be seen as a bug that labwc checks the config-dir it's been given for autostart and environment files along with rc.xml and menu.xml, even if our startup script specifies ~/.config/bunsen/autostart-wayland and ~/.config/bunsen/environment-wayland.

I've put this in ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/autostart:

# DO NOT USE THIS FILE

# The Bunsenlabs Wayland autostart file is
# ~/.config/bunsen/autostart-wayland
#
# While labwc will also refer to this file,
# putting commands here will cause unnecessary confusion.
#
# To edit your startup session, please edit:
# ~/.config/bunsen/autostart-wayland

and a similar message in ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/environment

johnraff · 2026-08-17 02:56:05

@hhh

Try bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin sometime?

Your input will be hightly appreciated.

Last edited by johnraff (2026-08-19 00:30:52)

hhh · 2026-08-17 03:12:03

^ On it now.

hhh@testing:~$ sudo nala install bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin
[sudo] password for hhh: 
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  Package:                          Version:                                                     Size:  
  bunsen-configs-base               13.7-1                                                      200 KB  
  bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin     13.7-1                                                       33 KB  
  bunsen-exit                       13.3.3-1                                                     35 KB  
  bunsen-icons-base                 13.0-1                                                        2 KB  
  bunsen-images-base                13.3-1                                                      2.3 MB  
  bunsen-thunar                     13.0-1                                                        3 KB  
  dmz-cursor-theme                  0.4.5.3                                                     191 KB  
  gir1.2-libxfce4util-1.0           4.20.1-2                                                     12 KB  
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  jgmenu                            4.5.0-1+b2                                                  131 KB  
  labbe-icons-bark                  12.9-1                                                       25 KB  
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  libdbus-glib-1-2                  0.114-2+b1                                                   62 KB  
  libfm-extra4t64                   1.4.1-1+b1                                                   28 KB  
  libgif7                           6.1.3-1                                                      46 KB  
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  libid3tag0                        0.16.3-4                                                     35 KB  
  libimlib2t64                      1.12.6-1+b1                                                 218 KB  
  liblightdm-gobject-1-0            1.33.0-1                                                     59 KB  
  libmenu-cache-bin                 1.1.1-1+b1                                                   33 KB  
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  libobrender32v5                   3.6.1-12+b4                                                  66 KB  
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  lightdm-gtk-greeter               2.0.9-1                                                     107 KB  
  lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings      1.2.3-1                                                     124 KB  
  lxrandr                           0.3.3-1                                                      54 KB  
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  scrot                             2.0.0-1                                                      79 KB  
  ssh-askpass-gnome                 1:10.4p1-4                                                   14 KB  
  tofi                              0.9.1-2+b1                                                   54 KB  
  wlr-randr                         0.4.1-1                                                      12 KB  
  wtype                             0.4-3                                                        10 KB  
  xbindkeys                         1.8.7-2                                                      37 KB  
  xcape                             1.2-3+b2                                                     11 KB  
  xfce4-clipman                     2:1.6.6-1                                                   165 KB  
  xfce4-clipman-plugin              2:1.6.6-1                                                    39 KB  
  xfce4-screensaver                 4.20.2-1                                                    258 KB  
  xserver-xorg                      1:7.7+26                                                     58 KB  
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  xss-lock                          0.4.0-1                                                      17 KB  
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  lxmenu-data                       0.1.7-1                                                      21 KB  
  xserver-xephyr                    2:21.1.24-1                                                 3.5 MB  
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  tk                                8.6.18                                                        4 KB  
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 Total download size   23.1 MB   
 Disk space required  162.7 MB   
                                 
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hhh · 2026-08-17 03:32:32

At first glance, it looks sparse.

hhh@testing:~$ apt policy bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin
bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin:
  Installed: 13.7-1
  Candidate: 13.7-1
  Version table:
 *** 13.7-1 500
        500 http://pkg.bunsenlabs.org/debian carbon/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
hhh@testing:~$

There is no bunsen folder in ~/.config, something's not right.

I should install bunsen-configs, I guess?

Yes, that's it. A few tweaks and we have Homage to @Dobbie...

My labwc session is undisturbed. Well done!

hhh · 2026-08-17 04:10:06

Some funkiness in the menu (All Applications> shows nothing). What is the menu? Processes look normal, very nice RAM usage (~930 at idle).

I've purged mate-polkit since I already had lxpolkit, as the scrot shows. I'm not thrilled with the hard dependency on lightdm, I prefer gdm3 on Wayland, and there are other logins/display managers as well. Can we lose that dependency in the plugin package?

Otherwise, superb.

-edit- Panel settings were overwritten to the labwc session, as warned.

Last edited by hhh (2026-08-17 04:33:22)

johnraff · 2026-08-17 07:26:32

The plugin is expected to be installed on top of a regular BL Carbon system. It depends on one of the bunsen-configs -base, -lite or regular. But the menu should have been shipped in bunsen-configs-wayland-plugin and configured in the rc file. Both ~/.config/bunsen/labwc/ rc.xml and menu.xml should have been installed.

Maybe you need to do a logout/login so that bl-user-setup will import the files from /usr/share/bunsen/skel?

"All applications" uses labwc-menu-generator. Oops... I now see that's only available in Debian Forky. Maybe in my test VM I backported it? I seldom use the auto-generated menu, so thanks for catching that! I guess the way to go will be to build labwc-menu-generator from github (they claim "easy to build"), put it in our backports repo and make it a Recommend of the Wayland plugin.

Considering this is not a standalone system installer but expects to be added to a BL X11 setup, I think it's quite reasonable to have a hard dependency on lightdm, at least in this beginning stage. It's configured to show a BL-Wayland session in lightdm's login screen, and to run a modified Debian xsession for Wayland, also using lightdm's configs. If you're not using it with lightdm that might explain some subtle strangeness.

hhh · 2026-08-18 01:05:30

^ Sounds good, the package is in great shape!

peacemaker885 · Yesterday 23:40:16

Hello. I just wanted to post 2 observations on the new Wayland plugin:

1. The default wallpaper is not plain black or no background image. Was able to change using the wallpaper app.
2. Resolution change using lxrandr doesn't do anything.

johnraff · Today 07:11:20

Hi @peacemaker885, thanks for the feedback!

peacemaker885 wrote:

The default wallpaper is not plain black or no background image. Was able to change using the wallpaper app.

Sorry - this bug has been noticed and a fix uploaded to github, but it won't reach users till the next upgrade of bunsen-configs is released (soon). Meanwhile, as you found, it require users to make the first wallpaper setting.

Resolution change using lxrandr doesn't do anything.

I'm not sure about this one - I'll have another look. Are you testing on a virtual machine or real hardware?

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