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johnraff

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

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johnraff

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

An alternative to mate-polkit looks likely to arrive soon, xfce-polkit:
https://mentors.debian.net/package/xfce-polkit/
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo … ug=1103669

We'll have to wait and see how it compares.

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

Aptitude recommends lxpolkit as the first choice for replacement:

Looks like it beats mate-polkit thanks to fewer dependencies.

EDIT: I ran a dist-upgrade from deadbang 12.10 to trixie then used this to get rid of packages no longer available from Debian's repositories:

aptitude purge ~o

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

I remeber the default terminal is lxterminal. If yes, lxpolkit makes more sense.

johnraff

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

We considered lxpolkit too: https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 50#p141150
Mate-polkit is gtk3 and looked like a smoother replacement for policykit-1-gnome and doesn't seem all that heavy.
People who prefer gtk2 should indeed check out lxpolkit.

But xfce-polkit, if it makes it to Trixie in time, might be worth considering.

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

FWIW As another option, I have just installed xfce-polkit (again on arch, sorry).  If you are able to accomplish that, xfce-polkit works well and seems extremely tiny.  Here's my start command:

/usr/lib/xfce-polkit/xfce-polkit &

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johnraff

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

Carbon uses mate-polkit, but xfce-polkit is now in Forky so is a candidate for our next release.

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

Right now, I suggest replacing policykit-1-gnome with mate-polkit in the metapackage lists, and see how it goes.

Agreed, the GTK3 update is a good point.

Exactly as GTK2 is about to be gone from Debian.

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

To be fair, if I'm setting up labwc or one of the other wlroots compositors, I use lxpolkit. It does the job.

-edit- mate-polkit is just as easy and light, I'm not suggesting a substitution.

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johnraff

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

^I forget now why mate-polkit was chosen for Carbon. I think we talked about lxpolkit too...

Ah, searched (this same thread!) and found we picked mate-polkit because it was GTK3 not GTK2:
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 50#p141150
https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic … 61#p142761

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

To be fair, if I'm setting up labwc or one of the other wlroots compositors, I use lxpolkit. It does the job.

-edit- mate-polkit is just as easy and light, I'm not suggesting a substitution.

dito, me too. 
lxpolkit has been doing the job brilliantly for me over the past few years.

btw, if I'm not mistaken, this is the result of a script developed by @damo (here on labwc)

unklar@debian-lab:/media/DATEN/Abgleich/Conky/Scripte$ ./gtk23_script.sh

gtk2
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gtk3
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  exo-desktop-item-edit
  exo-open
  gcr-viewer
  gtk3dialog
  gtk-builder-tool
  gtk-launch
  gtk-query-settings
  labwc-tweaks-gtk
  localsend_app
  lxpolkit         <=====
  nwg-look
  thunar
  Thunar
  thunar-volman
  thunar-volman-settings
  waybar
  xarchiver
  xfce4-terminal

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johnraff

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Re: policykit-1-gnome is going from Debian

@Unklar you're quite right:
https://packages.debian.org/trixie/lxpolkit

dep: libgtk-3-0t64 (>= 3.0.0)
    GTK graphical user interface library

That's GTK3 alright.

But is there a reason to switch now from mate-polkit? The packages are both quite small.

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