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#1 2026-06-03 14:38:51

MarkW
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I Am Seriously Done With 13

I never had any problems with random unresolvable freeze ups or thermal shutdowns on Boron/12  Soon as I can find the USB drive I use for back ups I'm going back and not upgrading until this crap is sorted out by Debian

So frustrating.

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#2 Yesterday 14:05:55

Martin
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Re: I Am Seriously Done With 13

Care to elaborate?

/Martin


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prove their worth by hitting back."
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#3 Yesterday 15:04:12

MarkW
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Re: I Am Seriously Done With 13

i wish I could.  If only there was a way to see what happened when it all stopped working

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#4 Yesterday 15:42:56

trinidad
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Re: I Am Seriously Done With 13

I'm on 13.5 gone through all the updates and upgrades and have had no issues to speak of. I have heard of some thermal issues (sensor misreads and auto reboots and kernel panics) on Dell boxes but my main OS Deb 13.5 is on a Dell with the latest kernel which runs about 18 hours a day. Maybe hardware?

TC

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#5 Yesterday 16:00:53

MarkW
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Re: I Am Seriously Done With 13

I'm on an Elitebook 8460P.  It's old but I didn't have any issues with Boron.  Disk drive was replaced witha brand new SSD about a year ago.

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#6 Yesterday 16:40:57

DeepDayze
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Re: I Am Seriously Done With 13

MarkW wrote:

I'm on an Elitebook 8460P.  It's old but I didn't have any issues with Boron.  Disk drive was replaced witha brand new SSD about a year ago.

I have that same laptop and haven't experienced any freezes or thermal shutdowns. Some years ago I repasted the CPU heatsink as well as replaced the fan. Most likely you may need to do that.


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#7 Yesterday 16:43:52

MarkW
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Re: I Am Seriously Done With 13

DeepDayze wrote:
MarkW wrote:

I'm on an Elitebook 8460P.  It's old but I didn't have any issues with Boron.  Disk drive was replaced witha brand new SSD about a year ago.

I have that same laptop and haven't experienced any freezes or thermal shutdowns. Some years ago I repasted the CPU heatsink as well as replaced the fan. Most likely you may need to do that.

Yeah, seems likely  Not a task I really want to undertake  I've seen the product manual and it looks like the CPU is a nightmare to access.

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#8 Today 08:26:45

unklar
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Re: I Am Seriously Done With 13

^After such a freeze you could perhaps look for hardware errors:

sudo dmesg --color=always | less -R

(errors found here are shown in red)

Software errors could be searched for such crashes/errors using the 'journal':

sudo journalctl -b -e

(where the -e causes a jump to the end, i.e. where the error occurred)

You could also follow this live with the software and have it written to a file straight away:

sudo journalctl -af > ~/freeze.txt

(So you open a terminal, become root, enter the command and wait for the freeze to occur while continuing to work normally)

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