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^Ladybird looks interesting.
But that aside, I look forward to a browser that isn't based on Gecko or Chrome at all.
Orion browser based on WebKit is currently beta for Linux. Must be “Orion Plus” member to test but I’m looking forward to the Linux release.
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I've revised my opinion of Pale Moon; the latest GTK3 versions, downloaded from the main Pale Moon website, seem fine. If you want a file that installs in Debian, one place to get one is from the MX repositories (both MX 23 and 25).
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Using Firefox or Firefox-esr on the laptop with uBlock Origin (and Privacy Badger on the main desktop).
Firefox Focus on Android (bonus, the best FF icon ever)...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= … K0ANz5ewFe
I use Brave on Android to access YT, it removes the ads and you can close the phone's backlight without it shutting down the audio (good for music videos).
I'm surprisingly ok with the decisions FF has been making recently.
Full disclosure, I'm posting this on Android Chrome, which I use for sites with passwords. I could install Android FF, but I don't feel the need just to post here via mobile.
I don't care what you do at home. Would you care to explain?
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Waterfox is also available for Android, and works very well in my experience.
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I use DuckDuckGo browser on my phones (iPhone & Android)
On desktop/laptop, I use vivaldi/helium/zen.
Last edited by chroot (2026-05-07 22:44:58)
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I use DuckDuckGo browser on my phones (iPhone & Android)
On desktop/laptop, I use vivaldi/helium/zen.
How is Vivaldi these days? Apparently, they are going against the grain and avoiding AI.
You must unlearn what you have learned.
-- yoda
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chroot wrote:I use DuckDuckGo browser on my phones (iPhone & Android)
On desktop/laptop, I use vivaldi/helium/zen.
How is Vivaldi these days? Apparently, they are going against the grain and avoiding AI.
It's another chromium-based browser. By default, it enables google services and extensions. You need to disable them in settings first. It supports VPN, email, and many other "features" in the browser, but I don't use them at all.
I like it because it supports themes from google store, so I can make it match the global gtk color theme. If you don't care about the theme, or you have dark gtk theme in the system, helium is a much better option.
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I'm posting from Opera GX (in Endeavour) at the moment. I like the appearance a lot - it's meant to be a gamer's browser and looks the part - and it works well. The only downside I've seen with it so far is that I haven't yet found a way to set a homepage.
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I use LibreWolf on my laptops and Ironfox on my deGoogled Pixel. Both are supposed more secure than Firefox. Has anyone tried the Ladybird browser, which is still being developed?
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On android, agree with @hhh that Firefox Focus is worth checking out too. Stripped-down Firefox also from Mozilla. My default on the cellphone.
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...elevator in the Brain Hotel, broken down but just as well...
( a boring Japan blog (currently paused), now on Bluesky, there's also some GitStuff )
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^ Beat you to it, I concur, my default as well. Most important, a bitchin' [slang: remarkably cool] icon. ![]()
I don't care what you do at home. Would you care to explain?
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Beat you to it
Yes!
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...elevator in the Brain Hotel, broken down but just as well...
( a boring Japan blog (currently paused), now on Bluesky, there's also some GitStuff )
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Gmail (spam trap account opened in early 2000s) stopped working on Firefox sometime yesterday. The documentation still claims Firefox is supported. No error messages.
Update: It seems this is an ESR thing. Other, later, versions may be OK.
/Martin
Last edited by Martin (2026-05-21 10:54:43)
"Problems worthy of attack
prove their worth by hitting back."
Piet Hein
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I've selected Vivaldi, and haven't been disappointed. You can choose how to identify your browser to other sites (as Chrome, Edge, or any other custom browser), and even enable geolocation override options. Exceptional granular control. Comes with ProtonVPN built-in (usable with Proton account.)
No A.I.
Other security experts I can personally vouch for have also recommended LibreWolf. But Vivaldi is working for me.
Just a dude playing a dude, disguised as another dude...
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