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DeepDayze wrote:MarkW wrote:So, what now?
Will Debian (and, by extension us) just take this on the chin and meekly accept that their OS now needs to be age verfied before it can be used? Or will the devs look for alternatives to systemd?
Maybe Debian should go back to good ol' Sysvinit or taking a look at options like runit, s6 or upstart.
Debian should have never left Sysvinit. People saw this coming long ago.
Should BunsenLabs ever decide to re-base to something without systemd like Devuan, you can count me in to do whatever grunt-work and testing and whatever else I could possibly do to help, and I wouldn't be the only one, there's a LOT of love and respect for BL out there, more so than maybe folks here even know. To be honest I despise systemd, BL is the only distro that uses it that I will run fairly regularly.
xdg is also touched to support it.
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DeepDayze wrote:MarkW wrote:So, what now?
Will Debian (and, by extension us) just take this on the chin and meekly accept that their OS now needs to be age verfied before it can be used? Or will the devs look for alternatives to systemd?
Maybe Debian should go back to good ol' Sysvinit or taking a look at options like runit, s6 or upstart.
Debian should have never left Sysvinit. People saw this coming long ago.
Should BunsenLabs ever decide to re-base to something without systemd like Devuan, you can count me in to do whatever grunt-work and testing and whatever else I could possibly do to help, and I wouldn't be the only one, there's a LOT of love and respect for BL out there, more so than maybe folks here even know. To be honest I despise systemd, BL is the only distro that uses it that I will run fairly regularly.
No doubt this will become a real hot topic on the Debian mailing lists.
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No doubt this will become a real hot topic on the Debian mailing lists.
Dunno man, weird things going on over there for a while now, i'm very concerned for their future (and mine as well being as my projects are all based on Devuan/Debian). Project leader departed and literally only one person threw their hat in the ring to get elected as the next one, and that person has some odd priorities that really have nothing to do with real coding.
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A thread on Reddit that might throw some light on what's behind it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments … state_age/
...elevator in the Brain Hotel, broken down but just as well...
( a boring Japan blog (currently paused), now on Bluesky, there's also some GitStuff )
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If anything, this will encourage private builds, which isn't a bad thing. There will those who can, and those who will simply VPN distros and any other OS's. Again, the actual validation still has holes that are embarrassing wide open and easily bypassed, but I'm confident that this is a lot of lip-service and a band-aid approach that addresses media concerns but won't be much more.
Just a dude playing a dude, disguised as another dude...
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US Congress (who get a lot of campaign contribution $$$ from Big Tech like Mega aand MS) going all in on age attestation in the OS
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/ … 50/text/ih
As usual, the name of the bill has little to do with the actual legislation being proposed.
You must unlearn what you have learned.
-- yoda
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^
1.
Short title
This Act may be cited as the "Parents Decide Act".
2.Required age verification for users of operating systems
(a)Requirements
An operating system provider, with respect to any operating system of such provider, shall carry out the following:
(1)Require any user of the operating system to provide the date of birth of the user in order to—
(A)set up an account on the operating system; and
(B)use the operating system.
(2)If the relevant user of the operating system is under 18 years of age, require a parent or legal guardian of the user to verify the date of birth of the user.
(3)Develop a system to allow an app developer to access any information as is necessary, collected by the operating system to carry out this section and any regulation promulgated under this section, to verify the date of birth of a user of an app of the app developer.
Well, that escalated quickly, then even more quickly. They lost me at (1). (A) (B) (2) and (3) can all go play in traffic.
May be cited? Identity crisis already? Parents Decide Please Don't Cite Us Act (PDPDCUA).
I don't care what you do at home. Would you care to explain?
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It would be momentarily amusing to ask my parents to confirm my age, etc., from their graves.
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