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hhh wrote:Colonel Panic wrote:Controversial take; Knopfler can't sing IMO, but his music (and that of the band) is worth it for his guitar playing.
Lots of singers can't sing pretty, Mark is fairly benign in that regard (Donald Fagen, I'm looking at you). The edict is "if you want to stand out in rock, you need to sound different." Hence Stevie Nicks over Christine McVee, though Christy (IMO) has the smoothest voice in rock history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abticFB … rt_radio=1
Janis Joplin, Rod Stewart, Kim Carnes, Bob Seger, Peter Gabriel, voices like wet sandpaper. Roger Waters, how does that voice even work in a song? Somehow, it does.
That's a good question hhh. I think Mark's voice works for a lot of his songs, like this one;
It Never Rains
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF6xf7YrbCk
I think with singers like Rod and Kim Carnes the roughness of their voices is the whole point; it enables them to express emotion and vulnerabilty in a way that more polished singers couldn't (must admit I'm biased because I like Rod's early work).
Janis Joplin? Someone once said she had a voice like a steam engine, which I think is pretty accurate. There's never been anyone remotely like her since.
Not heard that much of Bob Seger's work but what I have heard, such as "Main Street" and "Night Moves", I've liked a lot.
I see your Mark Knopfler and raise you one Tom Verlaine
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Controversial take; Knopfler can't sing IMO, but his music (and that of the band) is worth it for his guitar playing.
My opinion is that Mark's voice is perfect for Dire Straits. I personally love his voice.
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude"
- Theodore "Ted" Logan
"Led Zeppelin didn't write tunes that everybody liked, they left that to the Bee Gees."
- Wayne Campbell
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Colonel Panic wrote:Controversial take; Knopfler can't sing IMO, but his music (and that of the band) is worth it for his guitar playing.
My opinion is that Mark's voice is perfect for Dire Straits. I personally love his voice.
I can see I'm outvoted here
Mark's voice isn't offensive, just a bit limited, and I like his guitar playing so I can live with it.
Another track;
Tunnel Of Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HUfFtCHEzk
(Listening to the rest of "Making Movies now", "Hand In Hand" is on at the moment. It's not my favourite album of theirs but it's still a good one.)
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A very limited range but the good thing is, the music is probably written for his voice.
"All we are is dust in the wind, dude"
- Theodore "Ted" Logan
"Led Zeppelin didn't write tunes that everybody liked, they left that to the Bee Gees."
- Wayne Campbell
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I think that may be true.
More generally, I think very few people in music have the full complement of abilities that go to make up a great song - singing ability, melodic sense and a talent for writing lyrics - maybe Simon and Garfunkel did on songs like "Sounds of Silence", or the Beatles with "Yesterday".
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